Push Button Starter!!!!!!!!!!

[RockettAU]

Has anyone done a mod to put a push button starer on their AU's.

If so, does anyone know of a link for the schematic or something that might help me out.



Also, does anyone have an engine cover for sale to suit an AU Fairmont V8 (i think they take the same engine cover as the EF's did but not sure)

Cheers

[LG]

JC! JC! JC! He's our man, if no one can do it.... HE CAN! lol

No really, he's done it i think.

[RockettAU]

Jc??????????

[LG]

Just wait, he'll post. :P

[JC]

LG - you know me too well. Yes, I have done it. And re-done it. And now it works, and it uses a relay, so it's safe. Basically, You have to cut the wire that goes to your starter, and hook the ignition side of it to the relay, then relay to switch, otherside of switch back to blue wire to starter. Power to relay comes from iginition source (that way it can only be started with the key in, and this also means it passes the BEM security check) The key will turn all the way to start, but doesn't do anything, so you just have it in the run position, press the starter button, and all is good. I used a 60AMP starter button from supercheap (about $10 or $15 IIRC).

I also have a second switch installed so that I can turn the bypass off so that it also just starts with a key (for the missus, and services etc).

I'll see about getting some photos and the exact coloured wiring and loom to get it from, over the weekend.

Originally Posted by JC

LG - you know me too well. Yes, I have done it. And re-done it. And now it works, and it uses a relay, so it's safe. Basically, You have to cut the wire that goes to your starter, and hook the ignition side of it to the relay, then relay to switch, otherside of switch back to blue wire to starter. Power to relay comes from iginition source (that way it can only be started with the key in, and this also means it passes the BEM security check) The key will turn all the way to start, but doesn't do anything, so you just have it in the run position, press the starter button, and all is good. I used a 60AMP starter button from supercheap (about $10 or $15 IIRC).

I also have a second switch installed so that I can turn the bypass off so that it also just starts with a key (for the missus, and services etc).

I'll see about getting some photos and the exact coloured wiring and loom to get it from, over the weekend.

dam now I'm interested...... love it love it love it....

how how would it be to make a auto start thingy? aka, press button and it starts... so you can warm the car up before you get in it... yes I know there are kits aval, and come standard on ummm more exclusive vehicles....

JC... Did you ever wanna try that, or you reckon no point.. to ****3rish?? ;)

[1TUFFUTE]

i no of some security systems that do that. Auto start?warm up, auto windows ...

[RockettAU]

Yeah some pics and a wiring diagram would be awesome. Thanx heaps.

[ned]

Excellent, would it be the same for earlier model cars?

[robbo_yobbo]

Originally Posted by ned

Excellent, would it be the same for earlier model cars?

easier again for earlier cars as you dont have the security check, just make sure you use a relay, otherwise the switch may end up welding itself closed and you'll burn out your starter moter and cause an electrical fire to your battary.
DONT LAUGH - YES I DID IT, lol!

[OzJavelin]

Originally Posted by ned

Excellent, would it be the same for earlier model cars?

Yes .. I remember my mates '49 Ford had a starter button ..
Maybe for real novelty you should try crank start

[LG]

Why would it bypass the BEM Security Check again JC? I thought you were cutting the wire on the ignition side of it? Shouldn't there be a seperate cable/loom leading to the BEM?

[JC]

Originally Posted by LG

Why would it bypass the BEM Security Check again JC? I thought you were cutting the wire on the ignition side of it? Shouldn't there be a seperate cable/loom leading to the BEM?

LG - you could get power straight from the battery, wire up the button and into the ignition circuit, but the car wouldn't start because the key hasn't been inserted and therefore the BEM check would fail. The way I have done it, it uses the built-in security by still using the key, but the button activates the starter instead of the key (the key is only there to satisfy the security, and because of the way I've wired it, it powers the relay as well).

NED - Yes.

Rocketman - No worries. Only costs $150 for the kit I have put together! LOL.

[LG]

Ahh ok, I think I was thinking of something different, like a kill switch or something.

Chuck up some pics when you get a chance. ;)

[RockettAU]

Tops, looking forward to it.

[1TUFFUTE]

so jc..it actually works like the new GT ones right>>> sounds mad i might get my electrician to do it for me...im wire illiterate _

[NA XR6]

Great idea (the button)
But would be a pain i reckon when novelty wears off

[JC]

Originally Posted by NA XR6

Great idea (the button)
But would be a pain i reckon when novelty wears off

1tuffute - yes, just like the GT one. The actual GT button is around $200 from Ford, but is wired in much the same way.

NAXR6 - that's why I have a second switch to go back to key start for the missus etc. I never get bored of it!

[NA XR6]

Originally Posted by JC

1tuffute - yes, just like the GT one. The actual GT button is around $200 from Ford, but is wired in much the same way.

NAXR6 - that's why I have a second switch to go back to key start for the missus etc. I never get bored of it!

Fair enough
It wasnt meant to offend you sorry

[1TUFFUTE]

gee imagine that... hop in the car,press in the security number, turn the ignition on,press the starter button, select drive,press the power button, flick on the shiftkit, turn up the shift speed, turn the radio up, put the blinker on,........anyone else feel qualified to fly a jumbo :

[NA XR6]

Originally Posted by 1TUFFUTE

gee imagine that... hop in the car,press in the security number, turn the ignition on,press the starter button, select drive,press the power button, flick on the shiftkit, turn up the shift speed, turn the radio up, put the blinker on,........anyone else feel qualified to fly a jumbo :

You forgot seatbelt :

[5speedeb]

Originally Posted by 1TUFFUTE

gee imagine that... hop in the car,press in the security number, turn the ignition on,press the starter button, select drive,press the power button, flick on the shiftkit, turn up the shift speed, turn the radio up, put the blinker on,........anyone else feel qualified to fly a jumbo :

yep hahahahhahaha

[JC]

Originally Posted by NA XR6

Fair enough
It wasnt meant to offend you sorry

No offence taken.

yeah was wondering about a DIY kind of thing... DIY probably not cost effective for this hey

[XR6Stu]

One of the blokes I work with performed something similar on his VN... Except using his cigarette lighter as the starter button. I borrowed it for a week while mine was having its work done, and I never EVER got sick of it. Its great!

[TUF514]

damn i want pics now.

jc, do you have the GT starter button or a different 1? that would be so phat to have.

i would also have to get somone to do it....... me and wires ( complicated stuff ) dont mix.

[JC]

OK, I have a pic now, so will load it up. It's nothing special though.

As far as remote start goes, you can't do remote start on any smart lock or smartshield falcon (So ED onwards(?)). You need the key in the ignition to enable the BEM to allow the car to be started. So great idea in theory, and of course I have thought of doing it, but just not ****bile without some serious re-wiring of the whole car's electrical system.

[HLC]

Originally Posted by JC

OK, I have a pic now, so will load it up. It's nothing special though.

As far as remote start goes, you can't do remote start on any smart lock or smartshield falcon (So ED onwards(?)). You need the key in the ignition to enable the BEM to allow the car to be started. So great idea in theory, and of course I have thought of doing it, but just not ****bile without some serious re-wiring of the whole car's electrical system.

for real? i was gonna see if Stav knew anybody... just for the **** factor :

[JC]

Originally Posted by HLC

for real? i was gonna see if Stav knew anybody... just for the **** factor :

Nah, I just made it up to put everyone off, so that I can be the only one who has it.

Yes, for real.

Originally Posted by JC

OK, I have a pic now, so will load it up. It's nothing special though.

As far as remote start goes, you can't do remote start on any smart lock or smartshield falcon (So ED onwards(?)). You need the key in the ignition to enable the BEM to allow the car to be started. So great idea in theory, and of course I have thought of doing it, but just not ****bile without some serious re-wiring of the whole car's electrical system.

ok, its late so I'm talking cr4p....

I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE of the BEM or how it works or etc...

from what I am hearing, can fathom, the key needs to be in ignition for the engine to start. What happens if you had two keys, and one was in the ignition.

Problem
(q1) can you have a key in the ignition and lock the car?

Not that I am suggesting leaving a key in the ignition all the time, I was thinking along the lines of having a key, cutting it down, putting a hole in it, putting a key clip through the hole, and once in town/parking being able to remove it and take it with me.

BUT

at night, I could leave it in, and lock the car, then in the morning, I could auto start it (just to warm it up before leaving)

I assume that the whole idea of the smartsheild is to prvent the car from starting, and would also assume that as part of this, ford, would have prevented the car from being locked whilst key in ignition.

just a silly thought...