Police will confiscate cars for speeding over 45 over!

[EDManual]

Dont they understand that anyone who is speeding at that sort of speed will now not stop but try to get away!

What sort of fool made that rule up. There will be more police chases, more deaths.

Idiots, thats all I can say about the Victorian Govt and Police ministers.

[XW Boy]

yer well what are you going to do about it? have a cry on the internet? how about u write a letter or something constructive. I just saw it on the news too and there was footage of a red XM or XP? i think that was doing a burnout n then a cop comes, well its obviously set up to make people think that this is happening in every street all day. Obviously they dont have any new footage but thats the media for you.

[Brute6]

He's not having a cry on the internet? He is simply putting his opinion up here for others to contribute to? Isn't that the idea of a Forum?

But back on topic, personally, I think that if you are stupid enough to do those sorts of speeds on a public road, you deserve to have your car taken off you. Its the 3km/h tolerance that makes my blood boil.....

[BlueRaven]

Originally Posted by XW Boy

yer well what are you going to do about it? have a cry on the internet?

[Kryton]

oh well...more cheap cars at the Auctions. fine by me. i cant think of one genuine reason why anyone needs to go 45kmh over the limit.

[LUXO_8]

Originally Posted by davway

oh well...more cheap cars at the Auctions. fine by me. i cant think of one genuine reason why anyone needs to go 45kmh over the limit.

cheap hot cars at auctions

seems like a good plan, i just hope that the police dont get to overzealous with the new power to impound.........

[Smoked]

Originally Posted by davway

i cant think of one genuine reason why anyone needs to go 45kmh over the limit.

You've obviously never had an emergency.

I did atleast 100km/h if not slightly more in a 50 zone whilst rushing my mother to a hospital whilst she suffered a heart attack. Is that genuine enough?

[Jason[98.EL]]

Originally Posted by Smoked

You've obviously never had an emergency.

I did atleast 100km/h if not slightly more in a 50 zone whilst rushing my mother to a hospital whilst she suffered a heart attack. Is that genuine enough?

to me that is more than genuine

i have had to do it when taking my daughter to hospital too during an astma attack she was at the time 2 1/2 ys old

jason

[henry 351]

Originally Posted by davway

i cant think of one genuine reason why anyone needs to go 45kmh over the limit.

Peeled my sister out of a car wreck between two country towns in the middle of NSW. Ambo's advised us that they were at least 45 min away (not blaming them).

Yes I sped getting her to hospital, but it was the difference between living and dying according to the quack. I was pulled over for speeding by the plod (157kph, and you were on the picks son) who escorted us to hospital at a similar speed.

My sister lived and the cop still booked me for speeding.

Yes it would be just lovely for them to take my car too, heaven forbid if there's a next time that speed could save a life...

[MITCHAY]

Originally Posted by henry 351

My sister lived and the cop still booked me for speeding.

What a tight ****!!! As if you were ever going to choose between your sister and a speeding fine in the first place.

[henry 351]

Originally Posted by MITCHAY

What a tight ****!!! As if you were ever going to choose between your sister and a speeding fine in the first place.

I was simply inferring that I had been fined for doing the wrong thing (speeding). I don't have an issue with that. However, do you think it would have been fair for the law to have confiscated my car under these circumstances??? If that's being a tight**** so be it.

[MITCHAY]

Originally Posted by henry 351

I was simply inferring that I had been fined for doing the wrong thing (speeding). I don't have an issue with that. However, do you think it would have been fair for the law to have confiscated my car under these circumstances??? If that's being a tight**** so be it.

I was saying it was tight **** for even fining you. It was obviously an emergency, not a position you would have desired.

[Smoked]

Originally Posted by henry 351

My sister lived and the cop still booked me for speeding.

hmmm, i would have fought that. I got flashed by a fixed camera when i took my mum to hospital, notice came in the male saying my licence would be cancelled. I rang and told them i wanted a warning, and after abit of arguing (and me threatening to fight it in court) they agreed.

I got off with a warning, and i Live in The Police State. If you havent paid the fine yet, fight it.

[4.9 EF Futura]

Agree with brute6 and davway - 45km over is going VERY quick!

EDIT: I think the posession of your car should be the last of your concerns anyways considering all of the criminal charges currently imposed on people doing that kind of speed over the limit. I believe its possible jail time here in SA.

[DOC]

Originally Posted by 4.9 EF Futura

Agree with brute6 and davway - 45km over is going VERY quick!
EDIT: I think the posession of your car should be the last of your concerns anyways considering all of the criminal charges currently imposed on people doing that kind of speed over the limit. I believe its possible jail time here in SA.

When / where was this implimented ? News to me, not saying it's not for real just havn't heard of this, i knew 45 over was loss of car , but jail ?

[Professor Farnsworth]

45 over = you shouldn't be driving on public roads - therefore - bring on the law.

[GTS_300_Coupe]

I could understand 145km in a 100km highway.
105km in a 60 zone is bad though. Unless ofcourse there was an emergency.

[Jock260]

Originally Posted by fantz

45 over = you shouldn't be driving on public roads - therefore - bring on the law.

i agree, yes, i mean 100km/h is slow for highway, but it is still a dangerous speed, yes you may be a very capable driver, but what about the other person passing you at 100km/h, imagine 145km/h, there is alot of difference in that, and has much more of a chance of loseing control

just my 2c

[MAFIA]

Originally Posted by fantz

45 over = you shouldn't be driving on public roads - therefore - bring on the law.

Screw the law. It's only gonna get worse. The goverment and police have no idea the there screwing Australia up like John Howard has done in the last 10 years!!!

Cops here in the West can't drive for ***** and there driving skill are much dumber then the cops you see on the American movies! :

[4.9 EF Futura]

Originally Posted by DOC

When / where was this implimented ? News to me, not saying it's not for real just havn't heard of this, i knew 45 over was loss of car , but jail ?

Hey mate. Was just something that rung a bell in the back of my mind - i'll have a look for something that might shed some light and come back to you!

[4.9 EF Futura]

Originally Posted by DOC

When / where was this implimented ? News to me, not saying it's not for real just havn't heard of this, i knew 45 over was loss of car , but jail ?

Alrighhhhty...

Section 45 of the Road Traffic Act of 1961 gets into the 'Excessive Speed' issue... 45km over the limit. Currently $600-$1000 fine for first offense with minimum 6months loss of license, $700-$1200 for a subsequent offense with min 2 years loss of license.

However.... I believe for that kind of speed, you can also be done under section 46 - reckless and dangerous driving..

First offense under sec 46 is $700 - $1200 fine and 12 months loss of licence... subsequent offense $800 - $1200 fine or 3 months imprisonment and 3 year loss of licence.

Road Traffic Act 1961 (South Australian Parliament)

^ happy reading! lol

And its probably one of those things where they can charge you with a list of offences longer than your left arm.... from the Road Traffic Act and from other places as well.

[charles_wif_xf]

Originally Posted by 4.9 EF Futura

Agree with brute6 and davway - 45km over is going VERY quick!
.

If the speed limit on freeways was 45km above the current 100km/h, then there would be no problem as all the traffic (bar some idiot moron old fart doing 35km/h in the right land lane) would be moving at that speed

[Abacus]

Originally Posted by 4.9 EF Futura

Agree with brute6 and davway - 45km over is going VERY quick!

EDIT: I think the posession of your car should be the last of your concerns anyways considering all of the criminal charges currently imposed on people doing that kind of speed over the limit. I believe its possible jail time here in SA.

You trying to tell us you've never done 145km/h on the open road?

[Professor Farnsworth]

simple facts:

1) Speeding endangers your own life
2) Speeding endangers others' lives
3) Nothing gives you the RIGHT to speed when suckers like me constantly begrudgingly do the limit (and people get up my ar$e all the time just EXPECTING me to speed because of the way my car looks).
4) Time and place, but even saying that it's still taking your life in your hands
5) Uses FAR more fuel, and a lot of you whinge about fuel prices, then do speeds that exaserbate the problem.
6) All it takes is for a rabbit to run out infront of you at 140, you'll most likely flinch not knowing what it is initially...... end of story.

A lot of you seem to be suffering from the immortality delusion (usually 18-21, but can last a lifetime for some) which is depressing because it's just going to end in tears.

Anyone who owns a late model or powerful car knows it's very difficult to keep the needle on 60, let alone 50 and 40, but if i have to do it, why the hell don't you people ? This is only directed at those who seem to think it's their right to speed on our roads. Every once in a while, hey whatever, but If you speed habitually, you're selfish, end of story. And if you think going 45 over the limit is fine, i don't even have a word to describe you.

[LTDHO]

Originally Posted by fantz

simple facts:

1) Speeding endangers your own life
2) Speeding endangers others' lives
3) Nothing gives you the RIGHT to speed when suckers like me constantly begrudgingly do the limit (and people get up my ar$e all the time just EXPECTING me to speed because of the way my car looks).
4) Time and place, but even saying that it's still taking your life in your hands
5) Uses FAR more fuel, and a lot of you whinge about fuel prices, then do speeds that exaserbate the problem.
6) All it takes is for a rabbit to run out infront of you at 140, you'll most likely flinch not knowing what it is initially...... end of story.

A lot of you seem to be suffering from the immortality delusion (usually 18-21, but can last a lifetime for some) which is depressing because it's just going to end in tears.

Anyone who owns a late model or powerful car knows it's very difficult to keep the needle on 60, let alone 50 and 40, but if i have to do it, why the hell don't you people ? This is only directed at those who seem to think it's their right to speed on our roads. Every once in a while, hey whatever, but If you speed habitually, you're a selfish idiot, end of story. And if you think going 45 over the limit is fine, i don't even have a word to describe you.

Unfortunately your facts are not true.

1) Not true, if is was that speed would be governed world wide to safer speeds.
2) Not true, I am alive @ 100 as I would be @ 150
3) RIGHT has nothing to do with it, as everyone deserves this right.
4) Still, untrue as the life of the driver and others are still safe,
5) This is a cost of getting to your destination sooner. Justified.
6) Hence why driver training needs to be increased. Story will never end.

Fact: There is more to the road toll than vehicle speed.

Vehicles are very hard to keep at 40, 50 and 60. Can this be fixed? Yes, speedo's can be 270 degrees and be on a scale of 0-120 and they can be 100% accurate. If speeding caused death, the government would introduce this instead of the cub side money makers.

There is no need to call someone a ' selfish idiot' just because they do something that you don't.

BTW - This is off topic!

[Professor Farnsworth]

Originally Posted by LTDHO

Unfortunately your facts are not true.

1) Not true, if is was that speed would be governed world wide to safer speeds.
2) Not true, I am alive @ 100 as I would be @ 150
3) RIGHT has nothing to do with it, as everyone deserves this right.
4) Still, untrue as the life of the driver and others are still safe,
5) This is a cost of getting to your destination sooner. Justified.
6) Hence why driver training needs to be increased. Story will never end.

Fact: There is more to the road toll than vehicle speed.

Vehicles are very hard to keep at 40, 50 and 60. Can this be fixed? Yes, speedo's can be 270 degrees and be on a scale of 0-120 and they can be 100% accurate. If speeding caused death, the government would introduce this instead of the cub side money makers.

There is no need to call someone a ' selfish idiot' just because they do something that you don't.

BTW - This is off topic!

why not, the government calls everyone 'bloody idiot's' for drinking. besides i changed it anyway.

Lovely rebuttal, however you can stick to your response if you like, but sorry my points stand. You're saying it from your position which is fine, but there are a large amount of unskilled drivers on the road who aren't able to handle the mentioned conditions as well as you may. Furthermore it is not your 'right' to drive on the roads, let alone your 'right' to speed. That is ludicrous. Driving is a privellige, and one given with many conditions attached. Those who think they have the right to speed, especially through peak traffic, are selfish, and deserve the consequences.

[Panda]

Originally Posted by LTDHO

Fact: There is more to the road toll than vehicle speed

I agree 100%. Speed is a contributing factor, it is not the whole story.

In the Northern Territory I came to the realisation that SPEED DOES NOT KILL. We got to the unrestricted section and we could let loose, so we did. It was all fun and felt good because it was so 'naughty', but after about 1/2 hour at 160km/h, it just felt normal. If anything, the car handled better at 160km/h than it did at 100km/h (actually there were a lot of people that commented on this speed being the optimum).

The kids were watching a DVD in the back, and at one stage I asked them what speed we were doing. They looked around, shrugged and said "Dunno, 100?"

There is a common misconception that the roads in the Northern Territory are far superior to other roads, this is just not the case. In general, they are the same as regional 2-lane highways, just much straighter.

I do not support speeding in Metropolitan areas / CBD / suburbs, but 100km/h in a well maintained, well manufactured car is crazy.

Panda

[4.9 EF Futura]

Originally Posted by Abacus

You trying to tell us you've never done 145km/h on the open road?

No that's not what i was trying to tell you... i merely said that 45km/hr over the limit is going pretty quick.

Regardless of the speeds i may or may not have travelled on public roads, i think it'd be strongly against forum policy for me to make statements suggesting that I had.

If you're looking for some sort of admission then PM me lol. Moving on...

It suprises me to see how many people are quite blas'e about driving at 150km/hr. Think about the consequences of those kinds of speeds and think about how little experience we (we - being general road users) have in driving a car at those speeds.

"Oh but the autobahn, oh but what if the road is quiet, oh but look how quick people go on motorbikes"

Fact: 150km/hr is very quick.

Yes, i know $20,000 bikes can do nearly double that. But whatever relativity you want to put on it, whatever comparison you want to make... 150km/hr is moving VERY fast. Absolutely. No buts about it.

Im not saying "dont do it"... it's not my place to tell someone how or how not to drive. I guess what i'm saying is dont take those kinds of speeds lightly - that's bloody fast. And dont act suprised when the authorities want to drag you across the coals for doing such speeds.

[EDManual]

the thing is, theres a massive difference in doing 145 on a desert highway when no one is there, compared to 95 down Lygon st in Melbourne.

Thats the problem.
I agree that 95 in a 50 zone like chapel st, lygon st, school zones etc are not places to speed in, but 45 over on a desert highway or a big freeway is nothing(when no one is around) and could never be a problem.

[shane3]

5.30Am 4 lane road, 2 either way, very well lit, NO other cars around and it's a 60 zone, 100 sound ok to me!