McDrive Thru chick shot

AC · 20-07-2006, 10:03 AM

Saw this on the news this morning.

Full story from SMH.com.au

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Two men are being sought after a 16-year-old McDonald's worker was shot in the face and almost blinded in Melbourne's east.

The girl, working in the drive-through section of the restaurant at the junction of Mountain Highway and Boronia Road, Wantirna, was lucky to have escaped more serious injury, police said.

Shows how low some people are to think its fun to do such things.
If you read on, apparently a man chased them and got shot himself as well.

Very most likley your average 16yo "casually employed" McStaff member.
Now scarred for life, mentally and maybe physically.

The one question i was thinking of, is how are Casuals covered for such workplace accidents...
Well this wasnt exactly an accident, but a deliberate.
Its been many years since i was a casual employee, so i wouldnt know how one is coverd these days.
Anyone got an idea ?

Interceptor · 20-07-2006, 10:08 AM

oh c'mon, the food might be crap, but ffs, make a complaint about it, dont just skip the formalities and head straight to shooting the staff!

HLC · 20-07-2006, 10:08 AM

I work at Maccas as a casual and sometimes i man the drive thru. usually cook though, and i have no idea about cover.

i burned myself pretty hardcore yesterday, like melted my fingerprint bad. was running my finger under the tap cause it cained like nothing else, then got yelled at by the restaurant manager for bludging. whilst its not as serious as a bullet in the face, they dont really care for minor injuries, or bad burns like the one i got yesterday. will be interesting to see how maccas deals with this.

FordFan86 · 20-07-2006, 10:14 AM

Everyone in the workplace should have some sort of cover/insurance.
I think when I did mine (casual) there was a choice between .5, 1 and 1.5 units of cover, basically different levels of super annuation to be put away, different amounts for death cover, etc.

mcflux · 20-07-2006, 10:22 AM

Hope they both pull through.

From memory Coles had my life valued at $30k. Wicked.

4.9 EF Futura · 20-07-2006, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by FordFan86

Everyone in the workplace should have some sort of cover/insurance.
I think when I did mine (casual) there was a choice between .5, 1 and 1.5 units of cover, basically different levels of super annuation to be put away, different amounts for death cover, etc.

The employer will pay a Workcover levvy (probably a different name interstate?) which bascially covers them for compo payouts. Liken it to the 3rd party bodily you pay with your rego... workcover levvy is 1% or 2% of turnover in SA if memory serves me correctly??

They'd also have public liability, but dunno if that covers employees.

The insurance cover in your super fund is death/permanent disability cover. Basically it's life insurance that also pays out if you're diabled to the point where you cant work. Units usually represent $50k of cover. i.e. 2 units, you'll get $100k paid to kin if you're killed at work. But they'll deduct twice as much from your super to pay for it.... but its cheaper accessing through a super fund as they obtain group policies from insurers. Think of it as a group buy on life insurance lol. Some self insure, which is cheaper again but can be a problem if not manged correctly.

All of which you find fascinating im sure lol.

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dansedgli · 20-07-2006, 10:22 AM

That place is just up the road from my house. Classy area it is. Im not surprised at all. If I see the kids running around I drive over them in 4wd.

RACINGdork · 20-07-2006, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dansedgli

That place is just up the road from my house. Classy area it is. Im not surprised at all. If I see the kids running around I drive over them in 4wd.

you ever head down the wanny pub dan??? i went there every friday night until i got a mortgage, now its about once a month.

anyhoo if they get caught they should be shot with a slug gun then they will feel how "fun" it is

XRchic · 20-07-2006, 10:27 AM

I used to work at Pizza Hut as a delivery driver. Casual wages. I was delivering a pizza (this was in the hills) to someones house with a very steep driveway in the rain. They had a piece of steel in the middle of it (to catch oil or something I guess)... I was walking down it and I slipped on the steel and broke my arm in two places.

I got time off on WorkCover. No issue at all.

I hope the girl and the guy who got shot are ok. That girl will never be the same again, even she recovers physically. You just cannot undo things like that. I hope she isnt scarred. Poor thing.

I hope they caught/catch the bastards.

AC · 20-07-2006, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by XRchic

I hope they caught/catch the bastards.

Then we can line em up like the Bali 9, like at Paintball... *pop* *pop* *pop*

XRated · 20-07-2006, 10:32 AM

Damn, that's just down the road from me :( It's scary being so close to home. I hope the poor girl recovers as best she can.

Gunns · 20-07-2006, 10:39 AM

Just to clear things up, they were shot with an air rifle. Sure it is going to hurt, but not life threating.
It would have been a couple of kids, who thought it was funny. But funny it is not! what are kids of today coming to? Is it a lack of control on the parents behalf? I would love to know!

XRchic · 20-07-2006, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Gunns

Is it a lack of control on the parents behalf? I would love to know!

I agree with that 100%.

There are a couple of kids next door (11 and 7) who are going to be just like that. From the attitude of their parents, I can tell the trouble they are going to be in later. They terrorise the entire street. They damage peoples front yards, they throw stones at the old couple, they jump over our back fence and steal our kids stuff, they trash any kids stuff they see outside and they play really rough. Every other parent has complained to their parents and they dont give a stuff.

When these kids kept trashing out kids bikes - riding into them, kicking them over, etc and then tried to beat my son up, we went to their parents. The kids Dad just laughed and said why buy them expensive bikes? We should just do what they do and buy cheap bikes, let them trash them and buy another! He found it funny that we would worry about a bike being damaged. He couldnt care less that his kids were terrorising the rest of the street, just said that it was everyone else's problem etc...

So the kids are worse than ever....

Anyways, back on topic LOL

HLC · 20-07-2006, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunns

Just to clear things up, they were shot with an air rifle. Sure it is going to hurt, but not life threating.
It would have been a couple of kids, who thought it was funny. But funny it is not! what are kids of today coming to? Is it a lack of control on the parents behalf? I would love to know!

if the projectile had entered through her eye, it could have travelled into her brain and she would have been dead.

IT IS life threatening.

Gunns · 20-07-2006, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by HLC

if the projectile had entered through her eye, it could have travelled into her brain and she would have been dead.

IT IS life threatening.

"IF" it had been an high power rifle it would have taken her head off, but it wasn't it was an air rifle, which is about as accruate as a paint ball rifle and has about the same penetration over a distance greater than 10m.

I was making the point she was not shot with a powdered round and the injury sustained was not life threatening.

GOLDIE · 20-07-2006, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunns

"IF" it had been an high power rifle it would have taken her head off, but it wasn't it was an air rifle, which is about as accruate as a paint ball rifle and has about the same penetration over a distance greater than 10m.

I was making the point she was not shot with a powdered round and the injury sustained was not life threatening.

Life threating or not the fools should be locked up for attempted murder any body that shoots a gun in public like that is a f en idoit.

Ian

Gunns · 20-07-2006, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by GOLDIE

Life threating or not the fools should be locked up for attempted murder any body that shoots a gun in public like that is a f en idoit.

Ian

Agreed!

No one "shoots a gun" You can fire a rifle or a pistol for that matter.
A "gun" is what the media call it because they are uneducated.

HLC · 20-07-2006, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunns

"IF" it had been an high power rifle it would have taken her head off, but it wasn't it was an air rifle, which is about as accruate as a paint ball rifle and has about the same penetration over a distance greater than 10m.

I was making the point she was not shot with a powdered round and the injury sustained was not life threatening.

i dunno how accurate your airrifle is. but mine is VERY accurate, at like 15 metres. and i doubt those guys would have been any further away. and last time i checked, the eye is like a jelly. the projectile would have travelled through it.

with a name like "gunns" i'd expect you to be more informed. obviously not.

Gunns · 20-07-2006, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by HLC

with a name like "gunns" i'd expect you to be more informed. obviously not.

Ummmm well I am an armuor in the ADF and a marksman accross all 3 services, as well as a graded sniper. So I think I am pritty informed to talk on the subject.
Yes an air rifle can be a deadly weapon and I am not denying the fact. But they are not accruate and with some of the smaller bores would be luckly to hit a fence pailing at 10m.

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Originally Posted by ETH02

A gun has a bore of over 25.4mm or 1 inch and the act of firing a rifle is called shooting ( don't hear of drive by firing )

No you don't hear that cause a "shooting" is another great term used by the media. It is an incident were a firearm was discharged.
Was Pte Kovco involved in a shooting? He was involved in a incident were a firearm was discharged.

If a firearm has a bore over 1 inch it is then classified as heavy artillery.

At noo point am I condoning what has happened, all I am saying her injuries were not life threating and if she was hit in the eye it would have been more due to being unlucky than a good shot.

**Professor Farnsworth** · 20-07-2006, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunns

Just to clear things up, they were shot with an air rifle. Sure it is going to hurt, but not life threating.

If she were hit near one of her main arteries, or around the temple area it could very easily have been life threatening. I know what you're saying, but we used to own an air rifle in the 90's on a farm and that thing was lethal enough..

Noddy · 20-07-2006, 06:02 PM

Unbelievable! The reason these people do such things is because IF they do get caught and they have no serious criminal history they will most likely get a slap over the wrist with our **** weak judicial system. Some of these guys get off scott free, poor Johnny was picked on in school; it’s the medication/drugs that made him do it.

In the U.S. they'd be looking at attempted murder with 20 to life for an imprisonment. I'm not suggesting this is going to stop people from doing such crimes as there seems to be no reduction with these type of crime in the states (US) but it gets these types of people off the street.

Miss_XR6 · 20-07-2006, 11:02 AM

she should still be covered under work cover but seriously what is this world coming to shooting young girls in the face the food may be crap and they may not put the right thing on what you order but that is wrong hope they find those men who did it

honer · 20-07-2006, 11:05 AM

Who cares about the ****ing work cover

She could of a lost an eye !!!

XRchic · 20-07-2006, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by honer

Who cares about the ****ing work cover

She could of a lost an eye !!!

Well, the difference between having cover or not might been quite a lot.

If she needs urgent and expensive surgery to fix the eye to ensure she doesnt lose sight, WorkCover will pay for it. They will also pay for any other health care she may need, including counselling and she will also have her lost wages paid for.

While the physical aspects are obviously the most important, the last thing an injured worker wants to worry about is paying for health care and losing wages indefinitely. Knowing that sort of thing is sorted out can go a long way psychologically, to help someone recover.

max · 20-07-2006, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by honer

Who cares about the ****ing work cover

She could of a lost an eye !!!

Well luckily she did not lose an eye. But presumably there will be some time off/trauma/medical ongoing issues as a result. I don't imagine anyone works for Macca's for the sheer fun of it.... There must be some coverage of payment while the worker is suffering the consequences of a workplace injury/trauma.

EF302 · 20-07-2006, 11:26 AM

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Who cares about the ****ing work cover

She could of a lost an eye !!!

work cover pays for the eye if she loses it?

Miss_XR6 · 20-07-2006, 11:42 AM

i dont think u get much for lossing an eye work cover doesnt pay that much u get only $5000 for a finger

EF302 · 20-07-2006, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Miss_XR6

i dont think u get much for lossing an eye work cover doesnt pay that much u get only $5000 for a finger

yes ovcourse, i was more talking medical expences, as xr chic explained. ive been on work cover and i know exactly what there like

XRchic · 20-07-2006, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Miss_XR6

i dont think u get much for lossing an eye work cover doesnt pay that much u get only $5000 for a finger

LOL.

My ex lost half his left middle finger in a workplace accident and got $15K.

BA Turbo · 20-07-2006, 12:24 PM

Me and friends were thinking of taking mums BA turbo for a joy ride to maccas and throw stuff at them and burnouts but now i feel bad for thinking of such a stupid idea.