GT Driver hands himself in

[GTP 320]

The Driver of the GT Falcon suspected of racing the Ferrari shortly before the Ferrari lost control and killed it's two occupant's has handed himself in to the police.
The 42 year old man went to the Moe police station and said he owned a car similar to the silver GT Ford Falcon investigators were hunting for over the crash.
The car was seized for forensic examination and the man released pending on further investigation.
Witnesses told police they saw the Ferrari being driven erratically and at high speed beside the high performance GT Falcon shortly before it crashed.
Cheers John

[EASYBOSS]

A sad ending for the red car, at least now, hopefully the cops will stop pulling me over, thought for a while we might have to take the orange strips off the XR8. The cops said they had instructions to pull over all silver cars with orange strips, even when I was in Bendigo, they also mentioned that the crash was more like at 200kph

[Whitey-AMG]

Originally Posted by GTP 320

The 42 year old man went to the Moe police station and said he owned a car similar to the silver GT Ford Falcon investigators were hunting for over the crash.

WTF........He either knew it was him or it wasn't him.
Why would you hand yourself in just in case you thought you might have done it ????.........

Hmmmmmmmmm

[Black XR6]

Originally Posted by ESP

WTF........He either knew it was him or it wasn't him.
Why would you hand yourself in just in case you thought you might have done it ????.........

Hmmmmmmmmm

Only speculating of course but maybe he wast driving it at that time?

[XR Martin]

Originally Posted by ESP

WTF........He either knew it was him or it wasn't him.
Why would you hand yourself in just in case you thought you might have done it ????.........

Hmmmmmmmmm

You dont admit anything.

He could say he was in the vacinity of the area at the time, but didnt see the accident. And because his car is performace vehicle and looks distinctive, it was singled out at the time for being involved.

If he admits he was involved he will be charged, probably loose his car and maybe even get a gaol term.

[Kryton]

what sort of forensic evident could they possibly get from the car anyway?

[4Vman]

Originally Posted by davway

what sort of forensic evident could they possibly get from the car anyway?

My guess is they'd possibly be looking for red paint marks or damage...?

[Outbackjack]

Originally Posted by davway

what sort of forensic evident could they possibly get from the car anyway?

The cops will probably just pull it to pieces out of spite.

[EFIwindsor]

Originally Posted by davway

what sort of forensic evident could they possibly get from the car anyway?

there was a good article in the sunday mail liftout today about the type of evidence the Accident investigation Squad get from cars. Was about a truck on the hume that caused a fatality and drove off.

[Nifty]

Originally Posted by davway

what sort of forensic evident could they possibly get from the car anyway?

Red paint on the GT and he'll get to meet the rest of his family in jail instead of just visiting them on weekends.

Originally Posted by Ghia5L

Sif anyone from Moe has a GT. He'll get done for theft too in this case.

Looking for the banjo playin smiley ...........

[Firefox7]

Interesting news...

How did you find that out john. Could it be a member from this forum? Anyway he did the right thing by turning himself in. I just hope some people on the forum here learn by this. If you want to go nuts in your car, take it to the race track.



Cheers.

[Tri Power 289]

Originally Posted by Firefox7

Interesting news...

How did you find that out john. Could it be a member from this forum? Anyway he did the right thing by turning himself in. I just hope some people on the forum here learn by this. If you want to go nuts in your car, take it to the race track.

It's in todays Herald Sun. Word for word.

Originally Posted by ESP

They shouldn't have been drag racing on a public road.......PERIOD.....contact or no contact it's ILLEGAL and WRONG for all the right and logical reasons

I agree. Its an Extremely tragic event, however, Street Racing is NOT Drag Racing.

[Whitey-AMG]

Originally Posted by Tri Power 289

I agree. Its an Extremely tragic event, however, Street Racing is NOT Drag Racing.

Drag Racing / Steet Racing...........semantics for fools. BOTH ARE ILLEGAL and UNSAFE.........this tragic situation has proven that. I hope you're not condoning STREET RACING as being safer than DRAG RACING on the street..........are you........... :

[4vxc]

Originally Posted by ESP

Drag Racing / Steet Racing...........semantics for fools. BOTH ARE ILLEGAL and UNSAFE.........this tragic situation has proven that. I hope you're not condoning STREET RACING as being safer than DRAG RACING on the street..........are you........... :

its not hard to see what he's saying, when there is a incident reported in the media involving illegal street racing of any kind, more often than not it is reported as drag racing. Legal (ANDRA) drag racing has always had an image problem without being misrepresented in the media, so when you tell some one or a sponsor you are a dragracer the last thing you want them to think is that you are involved in illegal street racing, get it?
So then....... Street Racing Is Not Drag Racing!

[GTP 320]

Originally Posted by Firefox7

Interesting news...

How did you find that out john. Could it be a member from this forum? Anyway he did the right thing by turning himself in. I just hope some people on the forum here learn by this. If you want to go nuts in your car, take it to the race track.



Cheers.

This information was in today's Herald Sun.
Cheers John

[Rollin]

If you race someone and crash and die, yeah is bad, but tough.

If you don't have the skills to back up your driving style, don't race.

Unless the GT and ferrari actually came into contact and the ferrari crashed as a result, then I don't see why the GT driver should be charged with anything, apart from possibly dangerous driving or 'hooning' or something of the like.

[Dilan]

What about leaving the scene of an accident? Or is that only in the US? :

[4Vman]

Originally Posted by Rollin

If you race someone and crash and die, yeah is bad, but tough.

Its not bad, its devistating for allot of people. Try to tell these people's family "tough"..

Originally Posted by Rollin

If you don't have the skills to back up your driving style, don't race.

You shouldnt race on public roads FULL STOP.

[Whitey-AMG]

Originally Posted by Rollin

If you race someone and crash and die, yeah is bad, but tough.

If you don't have the skills to back up your driving style, don't race.

Unless the GT and ferrari actually came into contact and the ferrari crashed as a result, then I don't see why the GT driver should be charged with anything, apart from possibly dangerous driving or 'hooning' or something of the like.

Dude

They shouldn't have been drag racing on a public road.......PERIOD.....contact or no contact it's ILEEGAL and WRONG for all the right and logical reasons

It could have been you and your family in a car coming the opposite way that may have encountered an out of control FERRARI or whatever doing 150K plus heading directly for you..........just think about that for a second.

[YOOT]

Originally Posted by Rollin

If you race someone and crash and die, yeah is bad, but tough.

If you don't have the skills to back up your driving style, don't race.

Unless the GT and ferrari actually came into contact and the ferrari crashed as a result, then I don't see why the GT driver should be charged with anything, apart from possibly dangerous driving or 'hooning' or something of the like.

I think you find NO ONE has the skills to stop a car instantly, moving at ANY speed (including 200km/h) when another car pulls in front, your tyre blows out, oil on the road, pot hole, road works, pedestrains, shall I go on? Its called physics, its called bad luck, and it will happen more often than not, simply because the odds are against the users of the public road system. As soon as you add a wild card, such as a maniac in any type of car (let alone a fast one) its like throwing bowling balls in a china shop.

If you stick to the road rules, you won't be garanteed safety, but you won't make the likely hood of death such a one sided affair.

Personally I couldn't careless what other drivers think they and their cars can or can't do, because when they smash into my wifes car, and kill my baby son or daughter, no amount of bragging rights will ever make up for it. Somehow I don't think 'tough' will cover it either, and 'bad' isn't even close to describing the loss.

Get your head examined - for the sake of me, others, yourself and my family (present and future). :togo:

[XRchic]

Originally Posted by YOOT

I think you find NO ONE has the skills to stop a car instantly, moving at ANY speed (including 200km/h) when another car pulls in front, your tyre blows out, oil on the road, pot hole, road works, pedestrains, shall I go on? Its called physics, its called bad luck, and it will happen more often than not, simply because the odds are against the users of the public road system. As soon as you add a wild card, such as a maniac in any type of car (let alone a fast one) its like throwing bowling balls in a china shop.

If you stick to the road rules, you won't be garanteed safety, but you won't make the likely hood of death such a one sided affair.

Personally I couldn't careless what other drivers think they and their cars can or can't do, because when they smash into my wifes car, and kill my baby son or daughter, no amount of bragging rights will ever make up for it. Somehow I don't think 'tough' will cover it either, and 'bad' isn't even close to describing the loss.

Get your head examined - for the sake of me, others, yourself and my family (present and future). :togo:

VERY well said!

[F6Tornado]

Originally Posted by YOOT

I think you find NO ONE has the skills to stop a car instantly, moving at ANY speed (including 200km/h) when another car pulls in front, your tyre blows out, oil on the road, pot hole, road works, pedestrains, shall I go on? Its called physics, its called bad luck, and it will happen more often than not, simply because the odds are against the users of the public road system. As soon as you add a wild card, such as a maniac in any type of car (let alone a fast one) its like throwing bowling balls in a china shop.

If you stick to the road rules, you won't be garanteed safety, but you won't make the likely hood of death such a one sided affair.

Personally I couldn't careless what other drivers think they and their cars can or can't do, because when they smash into my wifes car, and kill my baby son or daughter, no amount of bragging rights will ever make up for it. Somehow I don't think 'tough' will cover it either, and 'bad' isn't even close to describing the loss.

Get your head examined - for the sake of me, others, yourself and my family (present and future). :togo:

It is about time someone said this. It drives me nuts that the goverment keep blaming the performance cars when obviously its the low performance drivers who don't think what the damage will be caused (not could be). A year ago I was passed by a white skyline on the M1 in QLD not racing anybody just low flying I guess about 200+, 20 mins later I found the crash site I got there as the cop did and started to help, all that was found was a lot of white scrap metal, he had lost it on the smith st bypass and gone into the grove of trees, 650 meters before he left the road there was a white scuff mark on the concrete wall. The body was not identifable as it was mostly just red smears.

[Orbit]

Well said guys.
Even if you do survive...i'm the poor bugga who has to fix you up. The one part of my job i don't like is seeing "mates" and young people smashed up, because of easily preventable automotive related accidents.
I just ask that everyone be sensible with there own and others lives, it would make my job alot easier.

[XR-ENVI]

Well at least everyone with silver GT's with ornage stripes will stop being pulled over, saw one yesterday being pulled over on Sydney road

[XRQTOR]

It's his own fault if he wasn't racing he wouldn't have been killed, if the driver of the GT never collected the other car i don't see how he could be charged with anyhting other than street racing.

[MAFIA]

Alright you guys keep saying he should not have been racing,take it down the track, etc etc.

But lets face it without thinking what happen to the ferrari for a minute OK. How many of you would be in a position where you where in a High performance Aussie car or Jap car for that matter, turn at the light to find a Ferrari there next to you. And all you could think of is give him the run for his money. You would like to see him lose in that $$$ expensive car wouldn't ya. Bit like the movie! ing_sm

No offence here as i'm just making a point. I respect for those who lost there lives and condolences to the family.

[DOC]

Originally Posted by MAFIA

Alright you guys keep saying he should not have been racing,take it down the track, etc etc.
But lets face it without thinking what happen to the ferrari for a minute OK. How many of you would be in a position where you where in a High performance Aussie car or Jap car for that matter, turn at the light to find a Ferrari there next to you. And all you could think of is give him the run for his money. You would like to see him lose in that $$$ expensive car wouldn't ya. Bit like the movie! ing_sm
No offence here as i'm just making a point. I respect for those who lost there lives and condolences to the family.

Your right that thinking belongs in movies, i'm sick of tozzers lining me up at the lights with thier heaps of crap, people with cars that they know have the goods don't even bother with this crap, they don't need to.

[Lushau]

Hey cannot be charged with anything - it's witness against witness if he denies everything he will be ok - unfortunate event but they cannot prove how fast he was going etc and if the car didn't come into contact with the Ferrari i can't see any reason to charge him - all he has to do is deny he saw the accident and he is fine - if he admits fault then he's buggered

But dangerous driving at the moment IF anything can be proved, witness against witness i dont think the court will take some persons perspective of the incident

[XRQTOR]

Originally Posted by DOC

Your right that thinking belongs in movies, i'm sick of tozzers lining me up at the lights with thier heaps of crap, people with cars that they know have the goods don't even bother with this crap, they don't need to.

Might be like that down your way Doc but up here anyone with alittle bit of power has to prove it regardless of the price of the car they are driving and thier age.

[billyb35]

Could be charged with dangerous driving. Manslaughter.... maybe but difficult to prove beyond reasonable doubt that the GT's driver's actions were sufficiently related/proximate to the death of the Ferrari driver.

And there is not much other than circumstantial and heresay evidence to pin anything else on him (i.e. red paint on his car would indicate a collision between the two vehicles but it would not indicate that he was driving dangerously at the time.)

By the sounds of it though he has probably given a confession of some sort as to the events. Would be interesting to see the outcome.

Good to see the media is still flogging the "high performance cars are the devil" horse.