BA Bits On AU

Christopher.j · 25-01-2007, 10:58 AM

G'day again Guys. is it possible to use a BA Auto Shifter in an AU?
Also wondering if its possible to use a BA Steering wheel in an AU?

I dont know much about this so Forgive me if its a dumb question LOL

5tumpy · 25-01-2007, 11:11 AM

There's a dude (can't remember his name, search EA2BA) that has made a kit to make the SSS of a BA shifter work in lower series cars, basically it just makes ur existing gearbox use the BA shifter, as opposed to whole BA gearbox.

The BA steering wheel I don't know about. It might be possible to fit one of, but I doubt the buttons on it would work, airbag would be a pain the *** too... That one would be a pretty expensive job I think..

GlennBA · 25-01-2007, 11:28 AM

BA steering wheel or shifter won't just fit on an AU.
The shifter will if your car is manual

5tumpy · 25-01-2007, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by GlennAUII

BA steering wheel or shifter won't just fit on an AU.
The shifter will if your car is manual

I beg to differ Glenn, if that dude can fit it onto a EA console, the BA shifter will be able to fit an AU one, not saying it won't require modding, but it is possible....

He didn't ask if it was a straight swap, he asked if it was possible...

JC · 25-01-2007, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 5tumpy

I beg to differ Glenn, if that dude can fit it onto a EA console, the BA shifter will be able to fit an AU one, not saying it won't require modding, but it is possible....

He didn't ask if it was a straight swap, he asked if it was possible...

You should read replies more carefully before begging to differ. Glenn said it won't just fit on an AU. And he's right.

I've done the conversion too, and have reverted back to standard AU shifter. The SSS shifter doesn't hold 1st gear in an AU because the AU box relies on a mechanical link for first to hold that gear - that solenoids are unable to control it electrovially. Other than that, and cutting up the console, and the trans tunnel, and fabricating a bracket for the cable, and cutting a bloody big hole in the firewall for the cable, and modifying the linkage arm on the gerarbox, it fits and works.

As for the steering wheel. Yes, it will physically fit in that the mounting on the steering column is the same, but that's it. The airbags and horn setups are way different - too different to mod them to fit. But you can buy a BA "style" wheel for the AU. In fact I have a GT style wheel in mine. Available through many ebay seelers (or used to be) for around $200, and IMO, far better than a momo wheel.

Other BA bits that fit an AU:
BA pedals:

How to make them fit: http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthr...ghlight=pedals

BA Manual shifter (no photos, sorry)

BA XR8 Pod filter (with minor mods)

BA to BF & Territory brakes - will fit all AU2+. You must change discs and callipers though for the brakes to fit and work.

BA Rims

BA front springs (and possibly shocks too)

And now to the sublime.......
BA tyre valves, BA cigarette lighter, BA badges/stickers (but why????), BA fuel, etc, etc

GlennBA · 25-01-2007, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by 5tumpy

I beg to differ Glenn, if that dude can fit it onto a EA console, the BA shifter will be able to fit an AU one, not saying it won't require modding, but it is possible....

He didn't ask if it was a straight swap, he asked if it was possible...

And i said "it won't just fit", not "it just won't fit". It'll fit, but it'd take a fair bit of work.

EA2BA · 25-01-2007, 12:27 PM

Yes I put the BA shifter in my EA links are in my sig.

JC if the BA wheel fits an AU as you said, then it would also fit EF/EL, so can the clock spring be changed and do some re-wiring, dont care about airbag working or not, as I have an EA with ef/el steering column.

JC · 25-01-2007, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by EA2BA

Yes I put the BA shifter in my EA links are in my sig.

JC if the BA wheel fits an AU as you said, then it would also fit EF/EL, so can the clock spring be changed and do some re-wiring, dont care about airbag working or not, as I have an EA with ef/el steering column.

The horn wiring should be adaptable to your steering column - it's just the airbag has one yellow clip on AU, and 2 for a BA (IIRC). So you should be right to fit a BA wheel to yours, and get the horns working too.

EA2BA · 25-01-2007, 12:31 PM

Ok then, so who has a BA steering wheel to give me ;)

JC · 25-01-2007, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by EA2BA

Ok then, so who has a BA steering wheel to give me ;)

Try FTG - but with airbag/horn assembly, you better be sitting down when they tell you a price. I'd reckon around $500 minimum.

EA2BA · 25-01-2007, 12:39 PM

Well i can use a popped air bag and re-pack it, it will be just for filling, so that should make it way cheaper.

GlennBA · 25-01-2007, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by EA2BA

Well i can use a popped air bag and re-pack it, it will be just for filling, so that should make it way cheaper.

The airbag covers off ba's, like the AU are actually split when they deploy, so i doubt you could re use one. On EF/EL iirc the airbag covers don't split.

EA2BA · 26-01-2007, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by GlennAUII

The airbag covers off ba's, like the AU are actually split when they deploy, so i doubt you could re use one. On EF/EL iirc the airbag covers don't split.

Oh i see, the EF/EL flip up so you can just re-pack the bag then fold it back over the top and re-secure it into place, looks as good as new (but will never work again).

Can anyone post a good pic of a popped BA steering wheel airbag so I can assess the damage.

JC · 26-01-2007, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by EA2BA

Oh i see, the EF/EL flip up so you can just re-pack the bag then fold it back over the top and re-secure it into place, looks as good as new (but will never work again).

Can anyone post a good pic of a popped BA steering wheel airbag so I can assess the damage.

You could always gaffa tape it back together - or race tape it if you prefer.

Christopher.j · 25-01-2007, 01:22 PM

Hmm Sounds like a lot of effort for a steering wheel and gear knob :(

I might have a Squiz for a leather shifter with chrome button or summing

Edit: The BA Handles Look real good tho

EA2BA · 25-01-2007, 01:33 PM

Christopher.j you already have a cable setup in the AU so it would not be hard mod for you to do, would require a bit of work in the AU though as from what I have seen the AU handles are riveted on, but nothing is impossible just takes time and effort.

MRJUCY · 25-01-2007, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by EA2BA

Christopher.j you already have a cable setup in the AU so it would not be hard mod for you to do, would require a bit of work in the AU though as from what I have seen the AU handles are riveted on, but nothing is impossible just takes time and effort.

From memory only the series one cars were riveted. I'd assume you could swap the entire door trims seeing they're the same doors & I wouldn't think the power mirror or window controls wouldn't take too much if anything to work if the car already had them

Christopher.j · 25-01-2007, 01:48 PM

AH kay, iv got a friend who works for an interior trimmers, So ill get him to look at it

The Monty · 25-01-2007, 03:31 PM

You forgot to add BA scuff plates...

**Mechan1k** · 25-01-2007, 03:36 PM

I have a BA header tank in my AU.
Need to change the bottom hose from the header tank to the radiator though.
Long story .... but it does fit

I have SX Territory parts on my ute as well (wheels).

EA2BA · 25-01-2007, 03:37 PM

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I have a BA header tank in my AU.

Got a pic

**Mechan1k** · 25-01-2007, 03:42 PM

Actually I don't ... I really should have.
Uses the exact same mounts ... and has the yellow screw cap (120kpa)
The position of the larger hose that goes to the lower section of the radiator on the driver's side is in a different position on the header tank.

It exits from the front of the tank ... instead of underneath the tank next to the strut tower.

I did it to move the LPG converter to fit extractors (thinking they wouldn't fit) ... but I managed to fit them in the end anyway.

One good thing about BA header tanks is that they are cleaner than AU one ...

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And they don't have an overflow hose (tiny pressure relief hole/valve in the screw cap)

Oh ... seeing as the header tank dimension is smaller (slightly) ... I had to get a long hose from the header tank to the top of the radiator as well (the small thin one) ... so i bought a thermostat to header tank hose and cut it down to suit.

**Mechan1k** · 25-01-2007, 03:53 PM

Oh .... I picked mine up (BA Header Tank) from Macarthur Parts Plus for about $40 ... looked brand new when i got it as well.

chief · 25-01-2007, 05:31 PM

With the door handles. I believe AU I's are riveted and AUII & III are screws.

DOC · 25-01-2007, 06:08 PM

Buy a BA and put AU badges on it

Tell them you converted the whole car over

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The Monty · 25-01-2007, 07:05 PM

Or just put the whole BA front on it

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The Dok · 25-01-2007, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by The Monty

Or just put the whole BA front on it

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My ears are burning!
I have nothing constructive to add to this thread but had to check in.

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The Monty · 25-01-2007, 08:06 PM

Lol. Why would they be burning?

EA2BA · 26-01-2007, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by The Monty

Lol. Why would they be burning?

The Dok - He has put a BA front on his AU wagon is why.

The Monty · 26-01-2007, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by EA2BA

The Dok - He has put a BA front on his AU wagon is why.

Yeah I know, I was just stirring him up, lol..