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Old 27-03-2007, 01:28 PM   #1
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Default Kogorah, Sydney - 9 people hit by L plater.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/070327/2/12w6v.html

Car injures nine pedestrians at Kogarah
Nine people were injured, two of them critically, when a car ploughed into a group waiting at a bus stop in Sydney's south, today.

Police have cordoned off a section of Railway Parade, Kogarah, where a red Toyota Echo, its front windscreen cracked, stands about 10 metres from a bus stop.

L-plates lay on the ground and at least six shoes are strewn around the crash site, near the intersection of Montgomery Street.

A crushed pram is next to a bus stop sign which has been bent to within centimetres of the bitumen.

Ambulance NSW spokesman Neil Hargreaves said seven people were taken to four Sydney hospitals following the crash, which occurred just after 11am (AEST).

"We have two in a critical condition with head and chest injuries," Mr Hargreaves said.

"The remainder are in a serious condition and have lower (less serious) injuries including head, chest and pelvic injuries."

Three people have been taken to St George Hospital, two people have been taken to Royal Prince Alfred Hospital at Camperdown, one has been taken to Canterbury Hospital and one to Prince of Wales Hospital at Randwick.

"St George Hospital has received a number of walking wounded because the hospital is just around the corner," Mr Hargreaves said.


No word on the 6 month old baby that was thrown from the pram yet.

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Old 27-03-2007, 01:31 PM   #2
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well this is shocking news, and at the same time the bloke who hit the other kids is in court.
Hope all that are involved are ok.
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Old 27-03-2007, 01:31 PM   #3
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wow, glad i dont suck that much at driving
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Old 27-03-2007, 01:38 PM   #4
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thats shocking and just goes to prove the driver education point...why the **** is he/she driving around people? should have been taught emergancy braking BEFORE going onto a road with other people present.

good luck to the people involved and i hope the baby is ok
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Old 27-03-2007, 01:53 PM   #5
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so sad, i know the area well, used to catch buses from there all the time..

I hope the injured pull through.
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Old 27-03-2007, 04:49 PM   #6
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so sad, i know the area well, used to catch buses from there all the time..

I hope the injured pull through.
Yeah, me too. Its frightening when you can picture EXACTLY what happened :(.

Apparently one is dead now, a 20 year-old woman from Orange died in surgery:

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=102840
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Old 27-03-2007, 06:26 PM   #7
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thats shocking and just goes to prove the driver education point...why the **** is he/she driving around people? should have been taught emergancy braking BEFORE going onto a road with other people present.

good luck to the people involved and i hope the baby is ok
Over two million licensed drivers in Sydney, not all do this or your suggestion first. Mind you, probably just as well most of us don't take out bus stops.

Driver, a 42 year old woman hysterical, tutor, a 60yo man from memory.

A woman from Orange, 20yo, died. Sad. Baby is fine, mothers nephew suffered a broken leg.

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One thing i've always wondered is why are you allowed to go get your l's (no prac driving test needed) and then drive straight away on a busy public road?
In NSW before being issued an L license, one does a knowledge test.

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Wouldn't it be smarter to have the L platers first drive on a private road at the testing centre? Just to teach them the basics of acceleration, using your mirrors, steering etc.
Yes, but utterly impractical, and that will never happen politically. This event is the very rare exception, rather than general reality.
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Old 27-03-2007, 02:06 PM   #8
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oh jesus, a baby in pram,god its scary to think someone even an L plater decided on ramming the people instead of another car.
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Old 27-03-2007, 02:08 PM   #9
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SMH is saying that a 42 yr old woman was arrested.

Funny they have decided she was an L Plater

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Old 27-03-2007, 02:10 PM   #10
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Yep it was a 42 year old L plater being supervised by a 60 year old driver.

Also besides the baby there is now reports a toddler was also hit.
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Old 27-03-2007, 02:24 PM   #11
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There are some dodgy learner drivers around where I live too. Last week a couple of streets away a 28 year old L plater, driving a Camry, unsupervised and DRUNK took out his and 3 other cars. Guess what he was?
Hint: I live in Blacktown. For those of you in Melbourne it's the Sydney equivalent of Dandenong.
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Old 27-03-2007, 02:29 PM   #12
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There are some dodgy learner drivers around where I live too. Last week a couple of streets away a 28 year old L plater, driving a Camry, unsupervised and DRUNK took out his and 3 other cars. Guess what he was?
Hint: I live in Blacktown. For those of you in Melbourne it's the Sydney equivalent of Dandenong.
"driving a Camry" Isn't that a bigger hint?
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Old 27-03-2007, 02:34 PM   #13
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The NSW governments response will probably be to put speed camera's there and drop the speed limit to 20kph. Once again ignoring the need for a formalised education program for learner drivers. When will they learn? It should be along the lines of pilot training.
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Old 27-03-2007, 04:34 PM   #14
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For those of you in Melbourne it's the Sydney equivalent of Dandenong.
Dandenongs not that bad........sure there are a disproportionate amount of less than fair skinned locals, & we've just had the Russian swim team staying nearby, hoorah..........lets overlook the fact a 14 yo female swimmer was caught shoplifting & a team official was arrested for sexual assault, but I'm all for multiculturalism....... :yeees:
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Old 27-03-2007, 10:09 PM   #15
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That's what I meant, we got the same here and they CAN'T DRIVE for peanuts.
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Old 27-03-2007, 02:41 PM   #16
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unfortunatly obj, i can see that happening aswell..
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Old 27-03-2007, 03:55 PM   #17
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Guys, give her a break... she was trying to make it to the ARC driving with Toyota.

Ok, now seriously... if this doesnt budge the goverment to re-vamp the whole licensing scheme, what will?
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Old 27-03-2007, 05:14 PM   #18
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Umm... how can you comment on the situation when it hasn't even been explained?

You're all very quick to point the finger at people..
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Old 27-03-2007, 05:21 PM   #19
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One thing i've always wondered is why are you allowed to go get your l's (no prac driving test needed) and then drive straight away on a busy public road?

Wouldn't it be smarter to have the L platers first drive on a private road at the testing centre? Just to teach them the basics of acceleration, using your mirrors, steering etc.
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Old 28-03-2007, 06:21 PM   #20
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One thing i've always wondered is why are you allowed to go get your l's (no prac driving test needed) and then drive straight away on a busy public road?

Wouldn't it be smarter to have the L platers first drive on a private road at the testing centre? Just to teach them the basics of acceleration, using your mirrors, steering etc.

the powers that be say a riders course is needed before you can sit for your L plates for a motorcycle.
maybe its time to do the same for cars etc
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Old 27-03-2007, 06:07 PM   #21
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It's quite sad how racial prejudice (subtle or not) is brought into this type of discussion/incident. I guess we should lock the borders and take licences from people who aren't 5th generation Australians or fair-skinned???

I just hope the people injured can pull through as best they can.
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It's quite sad how racial prejudice (subtle or not) is brought into this type of discussion/incident. I guess we should lock the borders and take licences from people who aren't 5th generation Australians or fair-skinned???

I just hope the people injured can pull through as best they can.
now that would be a start. if the shoe fits
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Geez not good, arent there pedals for the other side of the vehicle so the trainer can slow the vehicle down.?
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Geez not good, arent there pedals for the other side of the vehicle so the trainer can slow the vehicle down.?
It proably wasn't a driving school car, more than likely she was driving a private car.
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Old 27-03-2007, 06:42 PM   #25
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i can see it all now ,BAN teenage L earners haha
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no signage on the car and it appeared to be a loooong way past the bus stop. someone found the wrong pedal methinks. That's usually a trick favoured by much older drivers.
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no signage on the car and it appeared to be a loooong way past the bus stop. someone found the wrong pedal methinks. That's usually a trick favoured by much older drivers.

Anyone wanna dig up the left foot/right foot braking thread?!!!

Terrible tragedy of an accident.
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Yeah look at the video on ninemsn, correct me if I'm wrong but that liquid that runs from the bus stop to the car must be blood?
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Yeah look at the video on ninemsn, correct me if I'm wrong but that liquid that runs from the bus stop to the car must be blood?
Just saw it on the news, oh yeah it's blood
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Just saw it on the news, oh yeah it's blood
I thought the same at first but I reckon it was oil from where it holed the sump when it went over the kerb.
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