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21-04-2007, 03:30 PM | #1 | ||
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Hopefully our car makers will switch to what DSI have to offer...
http://editorial.carsales.com.au/car...w/2535811.aspx
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21-04-2007, 03:58 PM | #2 | ||
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Yeah, that would surely bring the price of a new Falcon down. But, do you think that the 7 speed gearbox's are going a little too far? I've never driven a Falcon with a ZF in it, but i have heard nothing but praise of it: how it mates with the engine perfectly and how smooth it is to drive. What do you think?
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21-04-2007, 04:15 PM | #3 | ||
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could be a great opportunity... if it can reduce the costs to produce the 6 speed falcons (without sacrificing the shift quality) then thats great for competitiveness
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21-04-2007, 04:22 PM | #4 | ||
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Sounds good for Ford anyway, six speeders across the board. The cheaper 6 speeder would be absolutely perfect for XT's, Futura and Fairmont 6's and have cheaper parts and according to the article have quite a few similarities with the well known BTR 4 speeder.
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21-04-2007, 06:14 PM | #5 | ||
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What the article didn't mention and which is something I have mentioned before is that the DSI 6 spd has te ability to be made into a soft hybrid.
This involves replacing the torque convertor with an electric starter/motor/generator and has the ability to reduced consumption by 25% plus and increase acceleration by 20%. This was reported last year in the Australian Newspaper Automoive section. Apparently it had been tested in a "2 tonne Korean SUV" which is obviously going by the article in this link; a Ssanyong product. C'mon Ford, bring on a 5-6-7 spd auto as standard with the option of soft hybrid and team it with a Direct Injection motor and you would have to be on a winner.
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21-04-2007, 06:20 PM | #6 | ||
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What's with all these fancy automatic gearboxes? Whats wrong with the 3 speed auto ford used in the mid 70's? or the ford-o-matic 2 speed from the 50's?
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21-04-2007, 07:04 PM | #7 | |||
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I think it would be good Australia if Ford & Holden started to use these boxs.
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22-04-2007, 01:05 AM | #8 | |||
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21-04-2007, 06:33 PM | #9 | ||
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The ZF is the best transmission I have ever come across! I'm a big believer in, if it works don't mess with it... Going the cheaper option can only be a bad thing and a step backward for Ford..
My 2.234 Cents anyway
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21-04-2007, 09:07 PM | #10 | ||
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Im all for anything that boost Australian content even if its not quite as good. The ZF is nice, but not breathtaking - yes I have driven it in XR6T,XR8 and GT several times.
The 4 speed changes beautifully so one would assume that the newer boxes are even better. As for 7 gears...I reckon 5 is well and truley sufficient. 6 and more gears is more of a marketing thing than anything else.
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21-04-2007, 09:37 PM | #11 | |||
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7 Speeds seems stupid to me, even for torqueless useless motors youd be better off with a CVT.
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21-04-2007, 11:09 PM | #12 | |||
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22-04-2007, 09:21 AM | #13 | ||
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Ford should use the DSI 6sp in xt futura SR..etc, the 7sp in the fairmont fairlane ESP
option the ZF in the fairmont/fairlane range and std in the FPV's and XR
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22-04-2007, 06:39 PM | #14 | ||
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Just put a kenworth 14 speed grear box in there!!! that will put them in there place
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