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OK that's a bingo off topic - my partner's phone just swelled up as if pregnant as the battery decided to hara kiri, when opened up for repair we found it actually wasn't a 'brand new - unopened' phone... once bitten... noted on the Motorolas. Any good linux phones out there?
Blunnies got replaced by Rossis by all the farm crew I know over 20 years ago, sorry Tassie. Swift would be my choice if I wanted a modern 'Mini'. Some stuff coming into our place is good - never had induction cooktop before but it's working really well, the new heat pump is a good thing so far. Aussie made oven has been great. Cars - went past local Toyota hoping to see it stocked to the brim with actual new cars, and kept driving, disappointed. It's a large used yard.
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VF Sportwagon SV6 was $36K DA in 2017 or there about
What's that work out to be in 2024 dollars accounting for inflation? It's a lot more car than what that money buys you now, hybrid Corolla hatch with all 72KW? |
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https://www.in2013dollars.com/austra...7?amount=36000 Bargain of a lifetime for the size, space, capability when one considers this is now XV, CX30, top end Corolla money now, and a RAV4 XSE looks like 60K+ if I want it now (48 to order pffff)
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Just looping back to May sales of Ranger and Everest, how valuable are those 8,000 odd buyers
when we consider the prices they paid for their vehicles is like FPV/ HSV level a few years ago. Local manufacturing kept a lid on prices for sure but I wonder if Holden and Ford local manufacturing had survived until now, what prices and vehicles we would be seeing considering overseas supply from Ford Europe and USA is so terrible…… And yeah, I know that presumes a federal government that properly supports local manufacturing and jobs. |
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Absolutely no wonder as to why these vehicles are built in Thailand. Ford did 100% the right thing by walking away ... |
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![]() My thoughts are pretty much exactly that but it would probably insulate Ford from the federal government introducing fuel efficiency and emissions standards that will directly effect Ranger and Everest platforms, if they were made in Australia. The federal government now has no dog in the game to lose if they do something that effects the car manufacturers. |
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If that was the case, they would have kept buying Australian made cars when they could.
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To be clear here, I wasn’t implying that Ford build Ranger and Everest here in Australia,
just marvelling on the fact that so much profit comes those 8,000 odd monthly sales. The second paragraph was more about wondering what types of vehicles could have been built here if local production has survived until today now that Ford and GM cannot supply even the basic small and medium sized vehicles for our local Aussie markets (Focus/Mondeo and Escape/Edge) What sort of remedies could Ford Australia have come up with now that Europe seems to be throwing away its affordable FWD/AWD ICE/hybrid vehicles. Could they have gotten hold of redundant platforms and stamping equipment? |
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All you have to do is build it offshore and import it, and half the criticisms vanish into thin air.
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But again, I don't pick cars on 'popularity', if you ask me, the average person is a moron ![]() Got two VF Sportwagons at work as company cars - fantastic car. Not exactly the greatest 6 cylinder engine going around but I flog the *** off them mercilessly, we've taken them into the Lerderderg Forest a few times too. Even had one as a company car at a previous employer too |
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How would you rate the last Sportwagons against the Focus ST-Line wagon Franco? Which would you rather have?
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Safe bet VF Sportwagon and play timing chains. |
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Safe for E85 play too some of them, ta!
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but the earlier 1.6/1.5 I-4 EBs seem like reliable units, Ford is really a mixed bag to buy second hand. With VE/VF Commo, I wish they had just used the later OHV 4.3 V6 from Silverado, a reliable unit that’s basically a 3/4 version of the LS V8. |
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At least they had a marketing department though, unlike Ford.
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The US yt channels seem to think there's problems with nearly all the EB motors, 3 cyl, 4cyl. The little cuts between the cylinders up in the top of the block for cooling, lol Really like the idea of a characterful 3cyl in a Focus wagon that handles, that goes close to the 6L/100. Oh well.
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Rough idle for 20 seconds, then perfectly fine. Split its header tank recently, put a new one on and all new hoses Still losing coolant slowly - it's going somewhere and I reckon out the exhaust, need to do coolant system leak down test and see if it's pressurizing the cooling system. Ford has 14x engines in stock, it'll cost about $11,000 to get it sorted ![]() Class law action against Ford in USA and Europe over Ecoboost dramas, that's why I'm hesitant to recommend to anyone which is a shame as they're mint otherwise. Too much of a gamble with their stupid open deck block design and those coolant slots, cylinder walls are really thin at the top, also causes issues with cylinder heads warping. Then the latter ones with the wet belt design, great work Ford Europe, maybe they hired VAG engineers. Thinking I'll just drive it until it gets really bad then send to Sims metal for viking funeral ![]() Should have offered GMC Syclone 4.3L turbo V6 in the Commodore on the 1990s. Last edited by Franco Cozzo; 09-06-2024 at 04:51 PM. |
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There’s 52 pages on Whirl pool Automotive from Sa Focus owners no engine issues but some transmission issues with the eight speed torque converter. Certainly LZ four cyl engine 1.5 eb was an issue. I had one and traded it on a Skoda Fabia three cyl wagon at 129000 had no dramas with the Lz myself but a neighbour had the motor replaced by Ford under warranty in his Lz sport. I also think Ford got its act together with the Puma eb three cyl. Might pay to do some research on the motor in Sa Focus- those Sa Focus wagons are a lovely car. |
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Thanks Kevino, it looks like a cracker little wagon. I'll go search for Whirlpool. At 20s asks for low kms currently, highs of near 30 with less 20K kms on them. Which was their original asking price
![]() Losing water within the block is a very European thing. The Rover V8s with the later castings can get really thin in the alloy cylinder wall behind the metal sleeve, and hey presto, constantly losing a tiny bit of water, total mystery Franco you might like this example of old school improvisation on the EB 1.0 3cyl: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAVOz07tdDU love watching how creative some guys get
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They were all $28K-$29K drive away so naturally bought one saved over $10K I reckon, still got 5-year factory warranty and it's an absolute cracker of a car...maybe a little firm in the suspension but that's probably more about our neglected roads, otherwise great power, sounds great and well-built with that solid feel you just get in most euros. Should have bought two, one for my wife and kept the Territory just for me... |
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Thanks Dr Smith, they look great. My folks did the Euro wagon thing when we arrived in Oz with a Renault 12 so not entirely alien to it. Servicing in later life was bad though! $$$
Focus wagon looks great - would it be harder riding as ST Line? Franco, did the Ecoboost woes extend to the 1.5 3 cylinder Dragon? Is it the wet belt, so will have to watch out for deteriorating belt if oil not kept exactly as intended? Seems to be E10 rated.
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Now that they have snared a sizable slice of the market, the Chinese are now cashing in by bumping prices up.
".................the base price of the MG 3 rising from $18,990 drive-away to $23,990 before on-road costs." https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-new...cluding-hybrid "We are pretty confident we will still be number one in this segment,” MG Motor Australia CEO Peter Ciao told CarExpert. “We try our best to provide a better spec, better technology, and more safety for our customers. We also aggressively control our costs. “Even when we provide a much, much better spec vehicle for our customer, we are still very confident we keep our offer… we are the best value." https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-new...y-mazda-suzuki
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At that price you’d have to have rocks in your head to buy that over a Toyota, Mazda or Kia.
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