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Old 29-07-2007, 08:04 AM   #1
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The police pulled me over last night at Everton Park, told me to turn off my foglights as they are too bright. They told me they are doing a blitz on XR6,XR8 and SS Commodores. I have had no dramas in the last 3 years and I always drive with them on at night,dusk,dawn,cloudy or long trips. Are they now illegal??
PS after I drove off I put them on again anyway

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The police pulled me over last night at Everton Park, told me to turn off my foglights as they are too bright. They told me they are doing a blitz on XR6,XR8 and SS Commodores. I have had no dramas in the last 3 years and I always drive with them on at night,dusk,dawn,cloudy or long trips. Are they now illegal??
PS after I drove off I put them on again anyway
I'm pretty sure creampuff it's a $70 on the spot fine, so i think you were luck to get let off, it might be worth while to go to your local police station & ask the question about using your fog lights just to be on the safe side.
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Old 29-07-2007, 08:37 AM   #3
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Was it foggy last night? :

Although there was a thick smoke haze and Qld transport site says fog lights can be used in thick smoke

This is the only rule I could find on the matter and it seems to be for rears only.

You may only drive with rear fog lights on if you are in heavy fog or hazardous
weather conditions causing reduced visibility. If you are caught using fog lights
where conditions are not hazardous, or where visibility is not reduced, you can be fined $30 and get 3 demerit points.
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sounds ridiculous,why dont they find something else to pick on, like actual proper crimes ....
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The police pulled me over last night at Everton Park, told me to turn off my foglights as they are too bright. They told me they are doing a blitz on XR6,XR8 and SS Commodores. I have had no dramas in the last 3 years and I always drive with them on at night,dusk,dawn,cloudy or long trips. Are they now illegal??
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PS after I drove off I put them on again anyway.
Which is why some authorities are studying whether or not to issue a demerit point or two for the offence, as we do with high-beam mis-use.
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Bloody 4WD headlights are much more annoying!!!
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Old 29-07-2007, 09:15 AM   #7
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Bloody 4WD headlights are much more annoying!!!
Haha I will agree with that especially when they sit right on your ****
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Bloody 4WD headlights are much more annoying!!!
I must agree there, or traides that load up their ute when they have the in correct suspension set up. this is much more dangerous

I drive around with mine on, and i know of people having the police telling them to turn them off, but never heard of anyone getting fined over it.
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The police pulled me over last night at Everton Park, told me to turn off my foglights as they are too bright. They told me they are doing a blitz on XR6,XR8 and SS Commodores. I have had no dramas in the last 3 years and I always drive with them on at night,dusk,dawn,cloudy or long trips. Are they now illegal??
PS after I drove off I put them on again anyway
finally the police doing thier job.......

however, if you want sympathy, collins have it in stock shomewhere between s*** and syphillis
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doing their job...I don't think so
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You are right, the cops weren't doing their job, they should of fined you. Fog lights are for fog. WTF is so hard to understand about that.
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The police pulled me over last night at Everton Park, told me to turn off my foglights as they are too bright. They told me they are doing a blitz on XR6,XR8 and SS Commodores. I have had no dramas in the last 3 years and I always drive with them on at night,dusk,dawn,cloudy or long trips. Are they now illegal??
PS after I drove off I put them on again anyway
Mmmm, I got done in Cowra a couple of years ago for driving with them on during the day. I thought I was doing the right thing by driving with them on, but now when I see them, especially at night in the hills, I can see why they annoy people.
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iv never found a problem with them. i see huge amounts of cars with them on all the time and they have never bothered me at all.
didnt they just recently make it illegal to have them on in normal weather in all states?
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You are right, the cops weren't doing their job, they should of fined you. Fog lights are for fog. WTF is so hard to understand about that.
This should be nominated as post of the year.

By the way, Creampuff, sentences start with a capital letter and usually end with a full stop.

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I have never been pulled over because of them, I have been pulled over a couple of times for an RBT, and have always had them on and nothing has been said. I had a unmarked SS pull me over one time and even he had his fog lights on.
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I have always thought that lamps with clear lenses like those on the XR are driving lights..............fog lamps are either a yellow colour or have lenses that spreads the light to help it cut through the fog ?

From memory the use of fog lamps has always been illegal in non-fog conditions. Driving lights on the other hand could only be used with high beam so as not to distract other road users. (Assuming you don't use high beams when there is oncoming taffic)

I have to say I leave the driving lights on around town as they light up pot holes and kerbing far better than the headlights.

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I have always thought that lamps with clear lenses like those on the XR are driving lights..............fog lamps are either a yellow colour or have lenses that spreads the light to help it cut through the fog ?

From memory the use of fog lamps has always been illegal in non-fog conditions. Driving lights on the other hand could only be used with high beam so as not to distract other road users. (Assuming you don't use high beams when there is oncoming taffic)

I have to say I leave the driving lights on around town as they light up pot holes and kerbing far better than the headlights.

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I think the ones on the XR's are classed as foul weather lights. Because as you said driving can only come on when you have your highbeam lights on, were as the ones on the falcons can be turned on with the park lights on.
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I think the ones on the XR's are classed as foul weather lights. Because as you said driving can only come on when you have your highbeam lights on, were as the ones on the falcons can be turned on with the park lights on.
Hmmm fair enough I will stop using them unless conditions allow, which to me is country roads, no oncoming traffic.

Personally I think poorly aligned Xenon and SUV headlights cause more dazzle issues than the under bumper lights which most cars are now running.

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Hmmm fair enough I will stop using them unless conditions allow, which to me is country roads, no oncoming traffic.

Personally I think poorly aligned Xenon and SUV headlights cause more dazzle issues than the under bumper lights which most cars are now running.

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I agree with you I dont have a problem with them except for when people put brighter bulbs in them.
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This will always be an emotive issue. The majority of people who drive around with their fog lights on during the day in clear weather do so purely for the "LOOK AT ME" effect.
The anger at being prevented from this displaying extrovertish behavior is quite real and a personal afront. To them, being seen driving by others is far more important than the actual driving itself.
This is exactly the same reason that ricers fit neons, spinners, cannon exhausts, ultra doof doofs or whatever and if it does not cause any safety or health issues I personally do not have a problem with it.
If, on the other hand, such modifications or behavior do affect other road users then such things, in my opinion, should be restricted.

Of course there is the small minority who actually did use their fog lights for what they perceive are safety reasons. Fortunatly they are still able to use their low beam legally and not be mistaken for "LOOK AT ME" ricers....
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being seen driving by others is far more important than the actual driving itself.


Yes it does make it easier to see another vehicle on the road. I know thats not what you're getting at though.....
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The rule is a difficult one. In Canberra, fog is in patch's and its thick. Are we mean't to turn them on an off all the time. I wish fog lamps were setup like the auto lights or the auto wiper's. Then there is no need to even worry about them.
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The police pulled me over last night at Everton Park, told me to turn off my foglights as they are too bright. They told me they are doing a blitz on XR6,XR8 and SS Commodores. I have had no dramas in the last 3 years and I always drive with them on at night,dusk,dawn,cloudy or long trips. Are they now illegal??
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If you are caught using fog lights where conditions are not hazardous, or where visibility is not reduced, you can be fined $30 and get 3 demerit points.
Wow, 3 demerit points seems a little crazy to me when taking into account the fine is smaller than parking in a no standing zone. who makes these rules... :
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finally the police doing thier job.......

however, if you want sympathy, collins have it in stock shomewhere between s*** and syphillis

Well said mate ! Fully agree with ya there !
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creampuff ... hmmm, says it all really.

Just consider yourself lucky you got off with a warning. You could have been booked for an offence ... ignorance is not a defense, nor is your "belief" that you have some doG-given right to use your fog lights any time you wish. They are for FOG, funny that!

Now you've had your sook, dry your eyes and get over it.
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This will always be an emotive issue. The majority of people who drive around with their fog lights on during the day in clear weather do so purely for the "LOOK AT ME" effect.
The anger at being prevented from this displaying extrovertish behavior is quite real and a personal afront. To them, being seen driving by others is far more important than the actual driving itself.
This is exactly the same reason that ricers fit neons, spinners, cannon exhausts, ultra doof doofs or whatever and if it does not cause any safety or health issues I personally do not have a problem with it.
If, on the other hand, such modifications or behavior do affect other road users then such things, in my opinion, should be restricted.

Of course there is the small minority who actually did use their fog lights for what they perceive are safety reasons. Fortunatly they are still able to use their low beam legally and not be mistaken for "LOOK AT ME" ricers....

beautifully said, book 'em all and check their P plates while your'e there.
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beautifully said, book 'em all and check their P plates while your'e there.
Yes becasue its only young guys and girls that use them :
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Yes becasue its only young guys and girls that use them :
well book them for missing P plates, or inflated egos then.
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persoanlly i like them, i bought my car because the way that it look and drives. I have an xr6 and if i only got it for the driving experience i would have gotten an xt. i drive with the driving lights on at night because imo it looks cool.
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