Moving to Vic from NSW

andrewts · 05-12-2007, 08:31 PM

G'day guys.

I have a question related to my driving licence when moving from NSW to Vic.

The Vicroads website says that you have to be 18 years of age to apply for a licence. At the time of my moving, I will be only 17, but on my P1 licence in NSW. It also says that you can only drive around for 3 months before you must change it. After three months I will still not be old enough, meaning I would have to hand the Ps in for a set of Ls again.

If I were to leave my registered address as a NSW one (meaning I would have to vote in NSW etc) whether I could keep my licence on the basis that I am on a 1 year "holiday" (one in which I find a job, perhaps take up a TAFE course etc) and then change it all around when I turn 18?

Also, the rego for the car runs out in May, so would I have to hold a Victorian licence to register it with a Vic plate, or would I have to redo it in NSW? (Even though you can supposedly only have it on for 3 months - I know people that have done it for 8 months+ no worries).

Cheers for any advice you can give me. Of course the advice "Don't move", whilst it is appealing, is not an option. :P

Mongoose · 05-12-2007, 08:34 PM

Why would you want to move to victoria? why not go north to queensland?

XRNIL8 · 05-12-2007, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mongoose

Why would you want to move to victoria? why not go north to queensland?

Nah mate ... it ain't all it's cracked up to being .... come down to Vic ... you'll have more fun

Am pretty sure that they will just change you over to P1 ..... will make a call for you tomorrow if you like .... but yeah ..... should be all good. They recognise other states licencing .... when I changed over from Qld to Vic ...was a straight swap and no cost ... but am well and truely on opens ... hahaha!

andrewts · 05-12-2007, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mongoose

Why would you want to move to victoria? why not go north to queensland?

I'd rather not leave NSW reaaally, but I've got some family in Vic that I can stay with for a while until I get started.

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Originally Posted by XRNIL8

Am pretty sure that they will just change you over to P1 ..... will make a call for you tomorrow if you like .... but yeah ..... should be all good. They recognise other states licencing .... when I changed over from Qld to Vic ...was a straight swap and no cost ... but am well and truely on opens ... hahaha!

Yeah I suppose I could give Vicroads a call (if you get bored at work tomorrow feel free to do so on my behalf haha), but this page has me worried, because it seems to imply that I'll need to wait before I can do it.

XRNIL8 · 05-12-2007, 09:51 PM

sorry mate, the link didn't work

andrewts · 05-12-2007, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by XRNIL8

sorry mate, the link didn't work

Bloody computers!

I meant this one: http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/Home/...rsLicences.htm

XRNIL8 · 05-12-2007, 10:10 PM

yeah, weird! Will follow up for you tomorrow.

AusM · 05-12-2007, 11:20 PM

Look forward to cheaper rego (our 3rd party compulsory is much cheaper in Vic), no forced yearly roadworthies for 3+ year old cars (just random checks and RW on sale) and twice as many speeding fines!

andrewts · 06-12-2007, 08:21 AM

Haha yeah there certainly are plenty of Family Photo opportunities down there in Vic! I'll just have to learn to control myself.

06-12-2007, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by andrewts

G'day guys.

I have a question related to my driving licence when moving from NSW to Vic.

The Vicroads website says that you have to be 18 years of age to apply for a licence. At the time of my moving, I will be only 17, but on my P1 licence in NSW. It also says that you can only drive around for 3 months before you must change it. After three months I will still not be old enough, meaning I would have to hand the Ps in for a set of Ls again.

If I were to leave my registered address as a NSW one (meaning I would have to vote in NSW etc) whether I could keep my licence on the basis that I am on a 1 year "holiday" (one in which I find a job, perhaps take up a TAFE course etc) and then change it all around when I turn 18?

Also, the rego for the car runs out in May, so would I have to hold a Victorian licence to register it with a Vic plate, or would I have to redo it in NSW? (Even though you can supposedly only have it on for 3 months - I know people that have done it for 8 months+ no worries).

Cheers for any advice you can give me. Of course the advice "Don't move", whilst it is appealing, is not an option. :P

Vicroads will not issue you with a drivers licence unless you are 18. No if's or buts. You will be issued with a learner permit and if you're lucky, they may waive the minimum amount of time you have to hold it for.

Keep your NSW licence because it will exempt you from demerit points accrued in Victoria and it will allow you to keep driving. As long as you're sensible, anything under 3 or 4 points will not be reported or recorded, despite literature stating that it can.

You can also hold a car registered in Victoria with a NSW licence, so register your car in Victoria and change the garaged address to your Vic address. So hand in your NSW plates to Vicroads before hand and just transfer it over.

Any other q's, just shoot.

andrewts · 06-12-2007, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Shounak

Vicroads will not issue you with a drivers licence unless you are 18. No if's or buts. You will be issued with a learner permit and if you're lucky, they may waive the minimum amount of time you have to hold it for.

Keep your NSW licence because it will exempt you from demerit points accrued in Victoria and it will allow you to keep driving. As long as you're sensible, anything under 3 or 4 points will not be reported or recorded, despite literature stating that it can.

You can also hold a car registered in Victoria with a NSW licence, so register your car in Victoria and change the garaged address to your Vic address. So hand in your NSW plates to Vicroads before hand and just transfer it over.

Any other q's, just shoot.

Cheers for that mate, sounds like it shouldn't be too much a problem to hang on to the NSW licence.

Having a NSW licence but driving a Vic car, would I use the NSW (red on white) or Vic (white on red) P Plates?

Thanks

XRNIL8 · 06-12-2007, 05:37 PM

Shounak has answered the question just as it was given to me from Vic Roads staffer today .... can't add any more really.

06-12-2007, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by andrewts

Cheers for that mate, sounds like it shouldn't be too much a problem to hang on to the NSW licence.

Having a NSW licence but driving a Vic car, would I use the NSW (red on white) or Vic (white on red) P Plates?

Thanks

You would always abide by the conditions on your licence. So you would display the White on red. Not the Vic ones.

However, you would face the speed restrictions imposed by your NSW licence. Although most Vic Cops would have no idea about that and you will have Vic plates, which will not attract undue attention.

Even though it's technically not allowed, I would suggest putting up Vic P plates. You're going into the nitty gritty of legislation here and it will keep you out of trouble.

Trevor 57 · 06-12-2007, 06:01 PM

They cannot book you for doing the Victorian sped limit for P Platers. There is no legislation covering the 90km/h thing in Victoria, so if there is no legislation/law you can't break it.

I have had heaps and heaps of arguments with people on here about this, but I am right.

Shounak is absolutely spot on with his information BTW.

06-12-2007, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Big_Trev

They cannot book you for doing the Victorian sped limit for P Platers. There is no legislation covering the 90km/h thing in Victoria, so if there is no legislation/law you can't break it.

I have had heaps and heaps of arguments with people on here about this, but I am right.

Shounak is absolutely spot on with his information BTW.

Well when you're travelling interstate, you're always held to the conditions of your licence. I just assumed Vic Pol would hold you to those conditions.

Another interesting question would be on motorbikes. In Victoria, motorbike restrictions are based on cc's. You can't ride anything bigger than 260cc.

But NSW restrictions are based on Power to weight and an approved list of bikes.

If you were riding a powerful bike with a Victorian licence, you're not breaching any NSW laws because you're not held to Power to weight. You're only breaking Vic laws, however there isn't any NSW legislation outlawing riding over 260cc.

I wonder what would happen.

GORDZ · 06-12-2007, 06:10 PM

go north. vic sucks. i know, i live here =(

Trevor 57 · 07-12-2007, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Shounak

Well when you're travelling interstate, you're always held to the conditions of your licence. I just assumed Vic Pol would hold you to those conditions.

They can't, there is no law in the State of Victoria to cover exceeding 90km/h on NSW P Plates. And Victoria Police do not have the power to prosecute NSW Law - sorry. You can only abide by the laws of the State you are in. Bit like in the old days when NSW had a speed limit for trucks/buses of 90km/h. Drivers could do 100km/h in every State, but had to abide by the 90km/h in NSW.

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Originally Posted by Shounak

Another interesting question would be on motorbikes. In Victoria, motorbike restrictions are based on cc's. You can't ride anything bigger than 260cc.

But NSW restrictions are based on Power to weight and an approved list of bikes.

If you were riding a powerful bike with a Victorian licence, you're not breaching any NSW laws because you're not held to Power to weight. You're only breaking Vic laws, however there isn't any NSW legislation outlawing riding over 260cc.

I wonder what would happen.

Same rules as above, the reciprocal powers to prosecute overs borders does not exist. That is why for criminal law, people are held pending extradition to the other State, very similar laws as in getting extradition from overseas.

If you don't believe me, go and ask a Traffic Police person.

andrewts · 07-12-2007, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by GORDZ

go north. vic sucks. i know, i live here =(

Haha, Vic's not all that bad. The weather is absolutely miserable compared to NSW though, and that I will miss. Sunny, warm, happy days!

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Originally Posted by XRNIL8

Shounak has answered the question just as it was given to me from Vic Roads staffer today .... can't add any more really.

Excellent, thanks for ringing them mate.

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Originally Posted by Big_Trev

They can't, there is no law in the State of Victoria to cover exceeding 90km/h on NSW P Plates. And Victoria Police do not have the power to prosecute NSW Law - sorry. You can only abide by the laws of the State you are in.

That answers that question. ;)

So it sounds to me that I'll be fine just as long as I obey the rules of Victoria, and that having Vic Ps and number plate won't really matter, especially if I'm just "borrowing a mates car..."?

07-12-2007, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Big_Trev

They can't, there is no law in the State of Victoria to cover exceeding 90km/h on NSW P Plates. And Victoria Police do not have the power to prosecute NSW Law - sorry. You can only abide by the laws of the State you are in. Bit like in the old days when NSW had a speed limit for trucks/buses of 90km/h. Drivers could do 100km/h in every State, but had to abide by the 90km/h in NSW.

Same rules as above, the reciprocal powers to prosecute overs borders does not exist. That is why for criminal law, people are held pending extradition to the other State, very similar laws as in getting extradition from overseas.

If you don't believe me, go and ask a Traffic Police person.

Fair enough. Makes sense.

On another note, interstate plates are known to be cop bait. My uncle in the army who was always travelling interstate said that the interstate car would always be the first to get nabbed. I was travelling with a whole bunch of cars all going 125kmh in a 110 zone, but because I had Vic plates and P plates, I was the one who got pulled over.

theunfairadvant · 07-12-2007, 11:53 AM

Sometimes i see a group of Harley bikers about 30 of them and there is a few
P plates on them all doing 120km/h in a 110km/h zone, the cops did not even
pull them over at all they just follow them for a distance and back off.

So traveling in a group does help as well esp with Harley's bikes
& the leather jackets.