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Old 19-08-2008, 05:31 PM   #151
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What else would they call their wagon? I guess anything they like. They called their 2 door variant of the Commodore a Monaro. The name doesn't always have to describe the vehicle, it's simply a name.
Anyone remember the Hyundai Lantra Sportswagon. It was about as sporty as John Howard, probably just about as ugly too.
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Old 19-08-2008, 07:32 PM   #152
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I saw one today on Pennant Hills road.

It surprised the shite out of me and I had to do a double take until I realized what it was.

I thought it was damn sexy, very Euro though.
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Old 19-08-2008, 07:51 PM   #153
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I saw one today on Pennant Hills road.

It surprised the shite out of me and I had to do a double take until I realized what it was.

I thought it was damn sexy, very Euro though.
i saw one also on penno rd today, was a grey omega. looked pretty good for a holden, wheels looked wayyy to small though.
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Old 19-08-2008, 08:01 PM   #154
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What part of the commonhore sport wagon is the sporty part. ther the size of a bloated hippo!!
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Old 19-08-2008, 08:30 PM   #155
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i saw one also on penno rd today, was a grey omega. looked pretty good for a holden, wheels looked wayyy to small though.

Edit: Never mind, re read your post.

The one I saw was a White SS. The wheels on this thing were huge, 19s at least.
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Old 19-08-2008, 10:37 PM   #156
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would have looked pretty sweet then, this was an omega and all it needed was huge wheels and it would have looked sporty. actually saw 3 today :S and one on the back of a truck.
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Old 20-08-2008, 11:44 AM   #157
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Don't get your point??? They have always called the 2 door Monaro (and then later for a while the 4 door version) after their 4 door family sedans variants in the past, or at least the ones I have seen anyway.
I think he's referring to the post by uranium death about Holden calling the car a 'long hatchback', saying that the name of the car doesn't describe the appearance. I think
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Old 20-08-2008, 06:18 PM   #158
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I think he's referring to the post by uranium death about Holden calling the car a 'long hatchback', saying that the name of the car doesn't describe the appearance. I think
No. My point was that people were lauding Holden for using the name "Sportswagon", but I question what other legitimate name could be used?
I could only think of "long hatchback".

For a wagon, it does look good however, so those 'biased' calls can go to buggery too.

The Sportswagon name is not original, and is not overly creative. Holden are smart to use it as it implies a certain image, but I choose to hold my bladder on it rather than become all excited.

If I was after a wagon, it would be to haul things around and not for sporting image or performance, which is why I would always go a BFIII.
If I want a car that drives nicely, I'll choose a sedan over a wagon.
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Old 20-08-2008, 06:57 PM   #159
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wheels looked wayyy to small though.
Kinda like the FG range?
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Old 20-08-2008, 08:49 PM   #160
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I saw the new commy wagon the other day at Fountain Gate and I was a little disappointed as the "preview pics" (I'd seen in one of the mags) were hot- the car looked somewhat like the 300C touring but in flesh it's just another VE with a longer roof.

I saw one the other day too,but did'nt think it looked all that good.got a quick shot on my phone camera.

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Old 20-08-2008, 10:51 PM   #161
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What part of the commonhore sport wagon is the sporty part. ther the size of a bloated hippo!!
I have not checked, is the name simply because it is based on the standard wheelbase commodore (the prev wag was on the longer wheelbase - yeah ?)

Makes me wonder about the next falcon wagon though.
No Fairlane, so it needs to get its DNA from a sedan, or the territory.

My prediction - A low ride height territory with FG look and feel will be the next Falcon Wagon - something right in the middle - benefiting in components from both product lines
Prediction ... or blind baseless hope ?
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Old 20-08-2008, 11:32 PM   #162
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Who ya gonna call?

But in terms of a large wagon from Ford to "combat" the Sportswagon...forget it.
Ford aren't going to produce two cars in Australia that will essentially compete in the same market.

The Territory will remain unique in its own way, as will the Falcon wagon, which is a minimalist vehicle, but still holds up on its own. If it wasn't for fleet sales, Ford would have discontinued the wagon.
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Old 21-08-2008, 03:18 PM   #163
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No. My point was that people were lauding Holden for using the name "Sportswagon", but I question what other legitimate name could be used?
I could only think of "long hatchback".

For a wagon, it does look good however, so those 'biased' calls can go to buggery too.

The Sportswagon name is not original, and is not overly creative. Holden are smart to use it as it implies a certain image, but I choose to hold my bladder on it rather than become all excited.

If I was after a wagon, it would be to haul things around and not for sporting image or performance, which is why I would always go a BFIII.
If I want a car that drives nicely, I'll choose a sedan over a wagon.
Ok fair enough. But I thought that the term "Sportswagon" just referred to this type of styling (wether it was a 300 C or an Audi), and not that you simply can't go racing in it.

A wagon is a wagon. They have always had names to describe the styling of the day, like "Estate" or "Station Sedan" or "Ranch Wagon". The flavour of the month for this type of styling atm just happens to be "Sportswagon".
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Old 21-08-2008, 05:27 PM   #164
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I have not checked, is the name simply because it is based on the standard wheelbase commodore (the prev wag was on the longer wheelbase - yeah ?)

Makes me wonder about the next falcon wagon though.
No Fairlane, so it needs to get its DNA from a sedan, or the territory.

My prediction - A low ride height territory with FG look and feel will be the next Falcon Wagon - something right in the middle - benefiting in components from both product lines
Prediction ... or blind baseless hope ?
There will be no FG wagon.
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Old 22-08-2008, 11:17 AM   #165
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I saw a Holden 'Sportwagon' on the road last night for the first time, and i have to say, it looks like a hatchback as opposed to a wagon....

It Like the old Corolla, where they had a Sedan, Seca and Sprinter, it looks like a Sprinter......

As a company vehicle it would be pretty schmick, but i believe our company are moving away from Commodores to Falcons given their lack of load space. Thats quite a few wagons across the country probably heading towards Ford, but they may in fact go for craptiva's.... But i will believe that when i see it, there would be an uproar!
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Old 04-09-2008, 04:26 PM   #166
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Cough, 1500+ sportwagons sold in August cough. : with july & august sales, that might be more than the whole fg range together since release.
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Cough, 1500+ sportwagons sold in August cough. : with july & august sales, that might be more than the whole fg range together since release.
Facts are facts ;)
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Old 04-09-2008, 06:37 PM   #168
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Anyone remember the Hyundai Lantra Sportswagon. It was about as sporty as John Howard, probably just about as ugly too.
LOL! quote worthy
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