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Old 27-03-2010, 01:35 PM   #121
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It is unbelievable how when there is soimething like this happens to someone driving a Commodore or Falcon or any other car for that matter, everyone on here has ridiculed them and said they deserve what they got.

But because this involves an F1 driver you all think that it is OK and funny for him to do it.

IMO it is about time that you all grew up and remembered that he has to abide by the laws of the road as all of us do (even if you don't agree with them). He got caught and has to suffer the consequences of his actions.

I think he is in for a bigger surprise when he faces the FIA about it as they are pushing road safety world wide in a big way and he goes and does this.
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You do not have to abide to anything you don't agree with, you may have some consequences forced upon you but it's important to remember you have the choice to do whatever you want. On the day that you have no one left standing up to those in power, which in our case is the government everything will be lost. It doesn't mean you should go around an cut people heads off :0 but so long as you are morally correct in what you do, long term you will win.

A F1 Driver (one of the best the world has seen) in a AMG getting a little wheelspin is not a problem for anyone, if they are going to continue with these kind of laws it should be only if other members of the public were put in danger
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Hang on, this is BS.

If this was any other random well off bloke, deliberately (T/C off!) spinning them up in a public place they would be hammered in just the same way.

What he does for a living should make no difference, and until we actually hear what really happened (was it a fishy, dounut, tiny little tyre squeal etc) then we are just guessing anyway.

If you keep to the apparent facts then this shouldn't even be in the news. Guy does a burnout (whatever), has car impounded, thats just a normal day in Melb FFS.
What he said.

Plus at the end of the day the law is the law.
If I can't legally do why the hell should anyone else be allowed to.
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The same reason you can't carry a gun ^
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Have a quick look at a few of the foreign newspaper web sites and read the feedback.

During the Sydney Olympics a team of riders on Harleys were used to transport film and video from Homebush to the City (one of my friends was one of the riders).
They did burnouts, noisy launches from traffic lights and all manner of "exhibitionist" antics on the streets of Sydney.

None were fined, arrested or even shot. It was all part of the spectacle.

The world is not black and white......
Hate to say it Tony but a lot has happened in 10 years, as I am sure you know. Public opinion is much different now, hell in Vic it is different to what it was last year. Public tolerance of this behavior is at an all time low, the law must respond to that opinion and that is black and white.

Lets be honest, Lewis will not fight it, his sponsors will not allow it as they do not want the negative press. They will give him a wrap over the knuckles and move on with their business, competing and winning races.
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Lets be honest, Lewis will not fight it, his sponsors will not allow it as they do not want the negative press. They will give him a wrap over the knuckles and move on with their business, competing and winning races.
They wouldn’t have the balls to wrap him over the knuckles.

When you’re as good as he is, you can pick your sponsors.
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Google is your friend.

Have a quick look at a few of the foreign newspaper web sites and read the feedback.

During the Sydney Olympics a team of riders on Harleys were used to transport film and video from Homebush to the City (one of my friends was one of the riders).
They did burnouts, noisy launches from traffic lights and all manner of "exhibitionist" antics on the streets of Sydney.

None were fined, arrested or even shot. It was all part of the spectacle.

The world is not black and white......
Its 2010 not 2000, the world is a very different place as im sure your aware.
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They wouldn’t have the balls to wrap him over the knuckles.

When you’re as good as he is, you can pick your sponsors.
But when you are talented and you draw negative attention to the sponsors, you get less contract offers. Mercedes will frown on this, especially when it appears their mantra is focussed on exceptional safety and responsible performance cars for the mature person. Not exactly what Lewis has portrayed here, he would have already received a wrap over the knuckles.
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Old 27-03-2010, 02:08 PM   #129
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Its 2010 not 2000, the world is a very different place as im sure your aware.

Not so sure just had a gander on several lewis hamilton facebook pages and theres a lot of people all over the world taking the ******** out of australia.
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They wouldn’t have the balls to wrap him over the knuckles.
Want a bet and this will bethe reason why they do.

http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre...ad_safety.aspx
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Wow pretty embarrassing for Australia - draconian is indeed a word to be used here. Discretion should have been used.
Why should Australia be embarassed. LH should be embarassed. If you wanna drive like an idiot then go for it, just don't complain when you get caught. LH just prior had been driving around a track at near 300kph, you would think that would be enough for him, but no, just got to break loose the back end of his Merc as he leaves the track. Funny!
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Not so sure just had a gander on several lewis hamilton facebook pages and theres a lot of people all over the world taking the ******** out of australia.
Yeah because Facebook is the measure of all things reasonable and sensible...
Remember what happened last friday night as a result of something organised on Facebook?
He'll cop his wack, he already got a fair wallop this morning by international commentators..

The general world wide concensus amongst well regarded people is he did the wrong thing and got what he deserved.

End of story, he admitted it was stupid, apologised and he's moved on, so should we.



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How dare you post a “common sense” comment from the Herald Sun.

With some of the replies here, I though that I’d accidentally logged onto Priuschat.com, however, even they would probably find this ridicules hoon legislation and subsequent action from the authorities a total overreaction.

So we had the Bingle “shower gate”….
Then the “Hey Dad” accusations, now this.

I wonder what the next “Big News” story’s going to be?

"Full Noise goes silent,Ford lovers are stunned."
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Not so sure just had a gander on several lewis hamilton facebook pages and theres a lot of people all over the world taking the ******** out of australia.
Yeah i know Australia is really the 'nanny' state, but i was refering to how rules have changed since 2000
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Yeah because Facebook is the measure of all things reasonable and sensible...
Remember what happened last friday night as a result of something organised on Facebook?
He'll cop his wack, he already got a fair wallop this morning by international commentators..

The general world wide concensus amongst well regarded people is he did the wrong thing and got what he deserved.

End of story, he admitted it was stupid, apologised and he's moved on, so should we.
Aint that the truth,.......move on nothing to see here.....
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I’m not that silent, I’m trying to cook lunch and quiet down a crying three year old. :baby bott
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Just because we “gotta” play by the rules, doesn’t make them right.
True, but it does mean that EVERYONE should play by the same rules, whether you're Lewis Hamilton or a P plater with a shiny new licence and your Dad's Camry.........
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They wouldn’t have the balls to wrap him over the knuckles.

When you’re as good as he is, you can pick your sponsors.

Hhmmm I think a few sportsmen have thought they were that good and could pick their sponsors. Tiger Woods being the most recent,dropped him like a hot brick.
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Aahhh the joys of fatherhood. :
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Hhmmm I think a few sportsmen have thought they were that good and could pick their sponsors. Tiger Woods being the most recent,dropped him like a hot brick.
Yeah, you’re right there with the exception of Nike, however, I bet that they all end up going back to him.
Time will tell, I guess.
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Yeah because Facebook is the measure of all things reasonable and sensible...
Remember what happened last friday night as a result of something organised on Facebook?
He'll cop his wack, he already got a fair wallop this morning by international commentators..

The general world wide concensus amongst well regarded people is he did the wrong thing and got what he deserved.

End of story, he admitted it was stupid, apologised and he's moved on, so should we.

So all six billion people on facebook share the same opinion as the people who turned up last friday and none of those 6 billion users could be regarded as a well regarded person .An buy intenational commetators i assume you mean sheep that like to predict what people want to hear to remain popular .
Just cause lewis hamilton apoligised does not mean he is sorry . It does not mean he thinks he did anything wrong .
Just because the commetators a saying what you want to hear does not mean there not smirking and talking the ******** on the next flight out of the country.
Yes he broke the law that was wrong . But that does not mean the law is just and the punishment suits the crime except in this case it probly is. He had a merc dealers car confiscated and probly got a new one deliverd 30 mins later.
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So all six billion people on facebook share the same opinion as the people who turned up last friday and none of those 6 billion users could be regarded as a well regarded person .An buy intenational commetators i assume you mean sheep that like to predict what people want to hear to remain popular .
Just cause lewis hamilton apoligised does not mean he is sorry . It does not mean he thinks he did anything wrong .
Just because the commetators a saying what you want to hear does not mean there not smirking and talking the ******** on the next flight out of the country.
Yes he broke the law that was wrong . But that does not mean the law is just and the punishment suits the crime except in this case it probly is. He had a merc dealers car confiscated and probly got a new one deliverd 30 mins later.
So what's your point? he didnt murder anyone, he did the wrong thing, he got a ticket, had his car impounded, life goes on....
Can't see what all the fuss is about.



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So what's your point? he didnt murder anyone, he did the wrong thing, he got a ticket, had his car impounded, life goes on....
Can't see what all the fuss is about.

Well i cant see what the fuss is about either which is exactly my piont . He did a burnout the police decided to make it world news by confiscating his car a make us look like bad country to the rest of the world .
He done a fistail a fishtail people pay this man to do them but in this country we punish him
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I gotta admit some of the replys on here are pretty amusing...

With opinions like "its ok to break the law cause is a F1 driver"
"Australia is a laughing stock of the world cause we booked an F1 driver for breaking the law"
"Victorians should hang their heads in shame that the Police booked an F1 driver"

Classic stuff.... almost the sorts of things pubescent teens would say.
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Well i cant see what the fuss is about either which is exactly my piont . He did a burnout the police decided to make it world news by confiscating his car a make us look like bad country to the rest of the world .
He done a fistail a fishtail people pay this man to do them but in this country we punish him
The police didnt make a fuss at all, the media did.

Do you actually know what he did? Ive heard everything from taking off too quickly and smoking the tyres to a handbrake 180 turn and full burnout in the opposite direction...... Does anyone know EXACTLY what happened?

The rules he plays by on a track are significantly different to those we ALL must play by on the street.. yet you seem confused by them...



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Well i cant see what the fuss is about either which is exactly my piont . He did a burnout the police decided to make it world news by confiscating his car a make us look like bad country to the rest of the world .
He done a fistail a fishtail people pay this man to do them but in this country we punish him

So you condone hooning on the streets and that Police should turn a blind eye to it..... what an attitude.

Wow Australia looks bad to the rest of the world!!!! OMG.... forshame on the Police for booking someone doing a burnout! Outrageous! How dare they!
Imagine if it was you, you would be furious, jumping up and down claiming that your a professional and you know what your doing as opposed to all those other drivers out there!

No wonder people see "car enthusists" as hoons....
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The police didnt make a fuss at all, the media did.

Do you actually know what he did? Ive heard everything from taking off too quickly and smoking the tyres to a handbrake 180 turn and full burnout in the opposite direction...... Does anyone know EXACTLY what happened?

The rules he plays by on a track are significantly different to those we ALL must play by on the street.. yet you seem confused by them...

I know the rules and are not confused by them at all . But I'm annoyed it has become the spectacle it has . It is uncalled for and unnecessary
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So you condone hooning on the streets and that Police should turn a blind eye to it..... what an attitude.

Wow Australia looks bad to the rest of the world!!!! OMG.... forshame on the Police for booking someone doing a burnout! Outrageous! How dare they!
Imagine if it was you, you would be furious, jumping up and down claiming that your a professional and you know what your doing as opposed to all those other drivers out there!

No wonder people see "car enthusists" as hoons....

Its a burnout . Done by a professional driver . Would you book jimi hendrix for busking in the street.
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This was a comment from the herald sun i think this fella sums it up nicely.

PC gone overboard of Melbourne Posted at 9:55 AM Today
All this fuss over a burnout? What the hell has happened to us. We used to be so laid back and easygoing. Cops have overreacted here. We can't have any fun anymore. If this had happened anywhere else in the world it would be a huge laugh, but not here. What's next - a communist style Internet filter !? Oh that's right, it's coming. How about focussing on the real issues of random assaults and stabbings.

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So the coppers standing there doing traffic duties and someone pulls a skid in front of him he's expected to do nothing. Then some moron comes up and says "Hey how come I got busted last week and just 'cause he's in a Merc and is a celebrity you let him go".
Damned if you do damned if you don't.
As for the old chest nut of being out catching real crims, thats what the other coppers are doing, he's been told to do traffic duty at the track by my guessing and thats what he's doing.
I don't have an issue with this at all, the law applies to everyone, even if we don't like the law.
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