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16-11-2005, 01:56 AM | #1 | ||
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Hi guys,
Just curious how quick BMW M3's are? I'm thinking of the recent ones (not sure on their model codes E46 or something?) Am I right in thinking mid 13's? Any one done a 'comparison' their cars with one on a rolling start? Cheers |
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16-11-2005, 02:55 AM | #2 | ||
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yhes mid 13's although special ones like the CSL are capable of low 13's older ones more inclined to the high 13's low 14's
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16-11-2005, 08:05 AM | #3 | ||
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If I am not mistaken, M3's are not all about quater miles more handling and balance.
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16-11-2005, 09:16 AM | #4 | ||
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Unbelievable cars. Just check out Top Gear episode on them and the M5.
I tried to run a CSL M3 once at the lights in the GT. He wouldnt play so I left him in a cloud of burnt G Grid. |
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16-11-2005, 09:21 AM | #5 | ||
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Awesome car! If the M3 runs 13s how quick does the M5 do the 1/4? I saw one of them outside work last week, brand new, the V10 sounds gooood!
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16-11-2005, 09:23 AM | #6 | ||
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I think some american mags have got high 12s out of CSLs because I think the best time for a manual M3 E46 was 13.2 or something like that.
Anyway, the next model is going to be a monster. 300+kw 4 litre all alloy V8. Should be good for 12s out the box or atleast low to flat 13s. And theres a CSL model coming after that too. |
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16-11-2005, 09:24 AM | #7 | |||
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16-11-2005, 09:30 AM | #8 | |||
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The CSL had the SMG gearbox which had a launch control option (can do 10-20 great starts before you burn out the clutch). |
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16-11-2005, 09:40 AM | #9 | ||
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I think its a great shame that they are using a V8 with the new M3.
I still remember vividly the first time a current M3 went past me at full noise; V8's sound nice but this thing was just brutal. In short Id kill to own one. On a side note I am getting sick of all these SMG's etc etc, keep the old school shifter pleaaaaasssee!
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16-11-2005, 10:53 AM | #10 | ||
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The upcoming Z4 M Coupe will be manual only, so there is hope.
The E46 M3 is a phenomenal car. Incredible. When setting in the back you can not only feel, but hear the gears ramming home. The old managing partner at my firm had one. Took some of us for a spin once, parked it on the entrance ramp to freeway, engage launch control, let 'er rip. Crazy. |
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16-11-2005, 11:05 AM | #11 | ||
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My father in law owns an M3 - i have my eye on it for inheritance hehee...it goes like the clappers (or the proverbial raped ape).
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16-11-2005, 11:13 AM | #12 | |||
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16-11-2005, 01:21 PM | #13 | |||
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16-11-2005, 02:52 PM | #14 | ||
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oh yeh i would love an M3 CSL.. or even the 'stocker' M3 in black !!
love the metallic rasp of that inline 6 copping a beating.. *drool* |
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16-11-2005, 02:54 PM | #15 | ||
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I can confirm M3's are bloody quick... I was on the way to work one morning and an old fool pulled up next to me in this fairly ordinary looking couple-of-year-old Beemer... I needed his lane after the lights, so I gave the Green Machine ******** off the line...
By the time I was across the intersection, old mate in his M3 was already at West End reading the Australian and sipping his latte.
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17-11-2005, 12:12 AM | #16 | ||
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I've driven them, my brother's owned one and I had the pleasure of riding shot gun (with handcam strapped down) in a CSL at wakefield this year, to say I was impressed is an understatement. I've had and currently own some quick cars, fast cars and great handling cars : 350+kw XR8, 600HP Prostock XY, BMW 540 & 930 Turbo Porsche, but NOTHING with that complete combination. The CSL is simply the most perfect package, point to point racer ever made with more than 2 seats.
I think the keyword is 'Balance.' Even the older e36 was a tidy package but the new e46 takes the cake, can't wait for the next generation. |
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17-11-2005, 12:14 AM | #17 | ||
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The E46 M3, 252kW 365Nm and all, in proper manual form, is about a 13.5 in the 1/4 and a 5.4 to 5.5 or so to 100km/h with a good driver. The SMG gearbox drops those times to 5.3s and 13.2s respectively. If you can launch the CSL right (it is on semi-slicks designed to turn corners, not drag, after all), it's a high 12's car and high 4's to 100km/h.
The E90 M3 when it comes out, 300kW+ V8 and all, should be pretty interesting.
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17-11-2005, 12:26 AM | #18 | ||
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My bro has a E36 6 speed and well lets just say 5th to 6th @ 230kmph if i remember corectly. and thats before the edit!!
he also has video footage of this beast drifting and it looks so easy the leather is so nice and well i want it when he's finished!! (just like the xr i own now was his)
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17-11-2005, 08:33 PM | #20 | |||
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17-11-2005, 10:33 PM | #21 | |||
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17-11-2005, 10:36 PM | #22 | ||
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That 360 got a horrible launch.... and the Spider's are slower then the Modena's. Though they're not exactly slow (12.7s and 290km/h). The M5 only won that race because of the launch...
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18-11-2005, 12:27 AM | #23 | |||
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18-11-2005, 12:39 AM | #24 | ||
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Yeah the reason I ask is that a dude in one tried to run me the other night, was pretty quick and boy did it scream! Kink of like a metallic/mechanical noise, very nice.
Could handle one of them :sm_drool: |
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18-11-2005, 02:00 AM | #25 | |||
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M3's are nice, but if I'd get more performance value by buying a $40k Japanese sportscar and throwing $20k at it, than buying a $140,000 M3 |
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18-11-2005, 09:16 AM | #26 | |||
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18-11-2005, 11:11 AM | #27 | |||
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18-11-2005, 11:31 AM | #28 | ||
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I was talking to a guy who used his M3 in a tarmac rally event. He went a bit sideways and clipped a gutter, minor damage to wheels and suspension arms. The airbag sensors thought that it was a crash and fired the side airbags.
The result was more expensive than it should have been for a minor indiscretion. For competition he now uses a Jap 4WD turbo. |
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