Covid 19 - - Page 148

T3rminator · 21-07-2020, 08:03 AM

All masks coming from local. 3m per week from one factory. Should be no shortages? But they seem to still be predicting supply issues.

https://www.theage.com.au/national/v...20-p55dlp.html

Funny, The Age just have to have a dig at China in every article. Counterfeit masks were a problem in the beginning when countries were ordering them from unregistered companies due to shortage of supply. The owner of one such company copped a 15 year jail sentence for supplying fake N95 masks.....ouch!

**russellw** · 21-07-2020, 09:50 AM

223 new cases for Australia and 1 death so CMR drops to 1.019% and active cases rise to 3,502. NSW recorded 20 and the balance were in Victoria except for 1 in Tasmania.

1 new case and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 1.416% and active cases rise to 26.

The UK recorded 580 new cases and 12 deaths yesterday so the CMR drops to 15.341%.

Just over 65k new cases in the USA yesterday and 412 deaths sees CMR down to 3.675% and active cases at 50.1% with the raw numbers still rising and closing in on 2M. Note that the USA is actually minus one day due to time differences.

Other notable points:
India completes 14M and Russia 25M tests;
Asia recorded a new daily high with 65,984 new cases;

Libya (114), El Salvador (361), Algeria (607) and Ethiopia (704) all recorded new daily highs, those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.

**FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0** · 21-07-2020, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XR Martin

Road trauma and influenza doesn't collapse the medical system though does it?
Lets say that each corona case is car accidents instead.
Today there was 275 extra car accidents, 20% of them had to be hospitalised, 10% required critical care, oh and another 3 died.
And tomorrow will probably be the same or worse.
Does that put it into perspective?

Unfortunately, no amount of statistics will convince some people. I fear the only way that some folk will get a grasp of what is really going on is if they, or one of their direct family members, get sick or even die from this pandemic.

Franco Cozzo · 21-07-2020, 10:53 AM

I ordered a variety of masks on eBay on Sunday, like the ones motorcyclists sometimes wear with open face helmets, a couple of balaclavas for the lols too.

Except they're all dispatching from NSW and via Australia Post, so I'll probably see them post pandemic by the time they arrive

Some of the sellers have already contacted me saying that there is delays on behalf of Australia Post and that eBay's lead times don't apply.

Common sense to me would have been propose another option of courier (at additional expense to me) and let me choose which option I want - because if I had another option instead of Australia Post I would have taken it.

Work has also ordered a mask for everyone but I'd rather supply my own, cause it's not every day the government gives you their blessing to look like a degenerate with fancy masks so I'm going to capitalise

**Polyal** · 21-07-2020, 11:02 AM

Masks claimable for tax?...LOL Fair bit of laundry there

cheap · 21-07-2020, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0

Unfortunately, no amount of statistics will convince some people. I fear the only way that some folk will get a grasp of what is really going on is if they, or one of their direct family members, get sick or even die from this pandemic.

Yesterday on average 450 people died in Australia, but you don't hear about it.

Some additional C19 Stats:
Since March 2020, 123 C19 deaths in Australia
The median age of deaths is 80 years (range: 42 to 96 years).
There is a relatively equal ratio of male-to-female cases across most age groups
To date, over 3,534,425 tests have been conducted nationally. Of those tests conducted 0.3% have been positive
Currently, 3 people under 60yo have died from C19
Currently, 33 ICU beds occupied (out of 7000 Australia wide) 31 of those in Victoria
Currently, 156 hospitalised in total, 147 of those in Victoria

Get a grasp of what is really going on, it is called "panic-porn"

https://www.health.gov.au/sites/defa...graphic_18.pdf

five 7 · 21-07-2020, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

I ordered a variety of masks on eBay on Sunday, like the ones motorcyclists sometimes wear with open face helmets, a couple of balaclavas for the lols too.

Except they're all dispatching from NSW and via Australia Post, so I'll probably see them post pandemic by the time they arrive

Some of the sellers have already contacted me saying that there is delays on behalf of Australia Post and that eBay's lead times don't apply.

Common sense to me would have been propose another option of courier (at additional expense to me) and let me choose which option I want - because if I had another option instead of Australia Post I would have taken it.

Work has also ordered a mask for everyone but I'd rather supply my own, cause it's not every day the government gives you their blessing to look like a degenerate with fancy masks so I'm going to capitalise

Here ya go Franco perfect for you.

**Polyal** · 21-07-2020, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheap

Yesterday on average 450 people died in Australia, but you don't hear about it.

Some additional C19 Stats:
Since March 2020, 123 C19 deaths in Australia
The median age of deaths is 80 years (range: 42 to 96 years).
There is a relatively equal ratio of male-to-female cases across most age groups
To date, over 3,534,425 tests have been conducted nationally. Of those tests conducted 0.3% have been positive
Currently, 3 people under 60yo have died from C19
Currently, 33 ICU beds occupied (out of 7000 Australia wide) 31 of those in Victoria
Currently, 156 hospitalised in total, 147 of those in Victoria

Get a grasp of what is really going on, it is called "panic-porn"

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https://www.health.gov.au/sites/defa...graphic_18.pdf

I get where you are going but we perhaps need to keep in mind where would we be if we didnt lock down.

Localised lockdown make sense and will just have to do for now.

Alternative?

Bossxr8 · 21-07-2020, 11:30 AM

People lining up trying to get a hold of masks, which despite the governments assurances aren't in as plentiful supply as they are claiming. Lines forming outside chemist warehouse.

Nice way to spread it round even more.

T3rminator · 21-07-2020, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheap

Yesterday on average 450 people died in Australia, but you don't hear about it.

Some additional C19 Stats:
Since March 2020, 123 C19 deaths in Australia
The median age of deaths is 80 years (range: 42 to 96 years).
There is a relatively equal ratio of male-to-female cases across most age groups
To date, over 3,534,425 tests have been conducted nationally. Of those tests conducted 0.3% have been positive
Currently, 3 people under 60yo have died from C19
Currently, 33 ICU beds occupied (out of 7000 Australia wide) 31 of those in Victoria
Currently, 159 hospitalised in total, 147 of those in Victoria

Get a grasp of what is really going on, it is called "panic-porn"

image
https://www.health.gov.au/sites/defa...graphic_18.pdf

Those numbers are taking into account of our level 3 restriction, and also not returning to normal before the 2nd wave. Let's say we go back to "normal"...will the numbers still stack up? Do you think what is happening in the US, Brazil, and initially in the UK and China were "panic porn"?

It makes you think, what does it say about our system when, during a pandemic, a rather large section of the population does not trust what the democratically elected government is saying? 10,000 people in hot spot areas refused testing during the initial Vic outbreak.....that is just crazy.

**Polyal** · 21-07-2020, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

People lining up trying to get a hold of masks, which despite the governments assurances aren't in as plentiful supply as they are claiming. Lines forming outside chemist warehouse.

Nice way to spread it round even more.

Yes they should have secured up supply first, but, why wait when a percentage can start.

.:4:. · 21-07-2020, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

People lining up trying to get a hold of masks, which despite the governments assurances aren't in as plentiful supply as they are claiming. Lines forming outside chemist warehouse.

Nice way to spread it round even more.

Im surprised that if maccas sell hand sanitizer in the drive through they dont try and profit off selling mcmasks.

blueoval · 21-07-2020, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheap

Yesterday on average 450 people died in Australia, but you don't hear about it.

Some additional C19 Stats:
Since March 2020, 123 C19 deaths in Australia
The median age of deaths is 80 years (range: 42 to 96 years).
There is a relatively equal ratio of male-to-female cases across most age groups
To date, over 3,534,425 tests have been conducted nationally. Of those tests conducted 0.3% have been positive
Currently, 3 people under 60yo have died from C19
Currently, 33 ICU beds occupied (out of 7000 Australia wide) 31 of those in Victoria
Currently, 156 hospitalised in total, 147 of those in Victoria

Get a grasp of what is really going on, it is called "panic-porn"

image
https://www.health.gov.au/sites/defa...graphic_18.pdf

of course, how else will you be able to instill continuous fear, bankrupt the world economy, impose passive martial law and potentially place mandatory Vaccines upon society to operate as part of your lifestyle under the guise of 'we are all about your health and returning life back to normal'?

Work Horse · 21-07-2020, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by blueoval

of course, how else will you be able to instill continuous fear, bankrupt the world economy, impose passive martial law and potentially place mandatory Vaccines upon society to operate as part of your lifestyle under the guise of 'we are all about your health and returning life back to normal'?

Who's really been reading the panic porn?

**russellw** · 21-07-2020, 12:58 PM

We haven't had any graphs for awhile so here we go.

First, the 30 day new case trend among the continents which shows only South America starting to trend down while the rest are all heading upward; North America quite sharply.

The trend for new cases globally is still on an upward trend but it is starting to ease the rate of climb a little:

The global trend for deaths had been improving since it peaked in mid-April but it started to climb again from mid June onward:

Next are the cases and deaths per 100k of adult population for some of the countries we have been watching:

.. and the CMR for those same countries:

Drilling down on some selected Asian countries to look at the trends, these countries are divided into 3 groups based on scale.

This first group of three countries, those with the highest case numbers, are all trending downward with Pakistan dropping sharply:

The middle sized group of six is a bit of a mixed bag with Indonesia, Kazakhstan and Oman still trending upward; Iran relatively flat, while Turkey, Iraq (just) and Qatar are heading downward.

The largest group, those with the smaller case numbers, is also a mix of winners and losers. Kuwait, Singapore and the UAE are all trending upward while the remainder are all trending downward with Nepal showing the steepest rate of decline.

Likewise, Africa is now divided into three groups although this first one only contains South Africa which is still trending steeply upward:

The 2nd graph covers the countries with intermediate case numbers where Egypt (sharply) and Nigeria are both on the downward curve while Algeria, Kenya and Ghana are all trending upward - the latter only slightly.

The third graph looks at those with low case numbers where Morocco and the Ivory Coast are trending downward, Ethiopia and the Sudan are trending upward (the latter only just) and Senegal is fairly flat.

blueoval · 21-07-2020, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Work Horse

Who's really been reading the panic porn?

na, not me. The writing was on the wall years ago about this. Just sitting back in my cynical chair with a bucket of popcorn watching it all unfold.

Tickford. · 21-07-2020, 02:14 PM

A little off topic. Jon Noble, an F1 reporter flew back home after the 3 F1 races and arrived at Heathrow Airport.... to this!

Any wonder the UK is in the position it is!

https://twitter.com/NobleF1/status/1285194987127418881

Gotta love Heathrow's response of "we're sorry for the inconvenience caused by this".

**FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0** · 21-07-2020, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Tickford.

A little off topic. Jon Noble, an F1 reporter flew back home after the 3 F1 races and arrived at Heathrow Airport.... to this!

image

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Any wonder the UK is in the position it is!

https://twitter.com/NobleF1/status/1285194987127418881

Gotta love Heathrow's response of "we're sorry for the inconvenience caused by this".

While there is a heck load of people there (which brings its own challenges), at least the vast majority of them appear to be wearing masks and observing the 1.5m social distance.

Couldn't see that being a regular sight at aussie airports.

galaxy xr8 · 21-07-2020, 02:34 PM

^^^ got to love the first pic above, with the young bloke and his eye placement and the young lass in the slim strap green dress !!!!! in his field of vision....lol..

If he has a missus/girlfriend, try and explain that pic which is now posted world wide, lol.

blueoval · 21-07-2020, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by galaxy xr8

^^^ got to love the first pic above, with the young bloke and his eye placement and the young lass in the slim strap green dress !!!!! in his field of vision....lol..

If he has a missus/girlfriend, try and explain that pic which is now posted world wide, lol.

maybe the dress was worn back to front

CoupeKing · 21-07-2020, 08:01 PM

Look at that ugly lighting.

Reminds me of sheep waiting to be slaughtered.

**russellw** · 22-07-2020, 09:49 AM

359 new cases for Australia and 3 deaths so CMR drops to 1.014% and active cases rise to 3,858. NSW recorded 13 and the balance were in Victoria except for 1 in Tasmania.

1 new case and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 1.415% and active cases rise to 27.

The UK recorded 445 new cases and 110 deaths yesterday so the CMR rises to 15.355%.

Just under 63k new cases in the USA yesterday and 545 deaths sees CMR down to 3.631% and active cases at 49.7% with the raw numbers still rising and closing in on 2M. Note that the USA is actually minus one day due to time differences.

Other notable points:
Global cases pass 15M, this last 1M only taking 4 days;
The USA passes 4M cases;
Africa passes 0.75M cases;

El Salvador (375), Venezuela (443), Ethiopia (704), Kyrgyzstan (1,108), Israel (2,039) and Argentina (5,344) all recorded new daily highs, those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.

**russellw** · 22-07-2020, 12:04 PM

Only two charts today. The first looks at the rate of case growth by counting the number of days it takes to add each 1M new cases, a period of time that you'd want to see getting longer but instead it is shortening.

The second looks at the same data for deaths and at least this one is a bit flatter...

Bossxr8 · 22-07-2020, 01:10 PM

Andrews has completely screwed the pooch in Vic. Nearly 500 cases today, and now it's spreading all over the state.

Get ready for stage 4.

Franco Cozzo · 22-07-2020, 01:14 PM

Bonanza!

484 new cases - masks at the ready ladies, gentleman and blue haired spaceships for 11:59PM tonight

LG17 · 22-07-2020, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Andrews has completely screwed the pooch in Vic. Nearly 500 cases today, and now it's spreading all over the state.

Get ready for stage 4.

Reading the news reports I would say it's the selfish, stupid people who have done the screwing...

Sprintey · 22-07-2020, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Andrews has completely screwed the pooch in Vic. Nearly 500 cases today, and now it's spreading all over the state.

Get ready for stage 4.

Yep, doggo is at the vet for emergency surgery

**GasoLane** · 22-07-2020, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Andrews has completely screwed the pooch in Vic. Nearly 500 cases today, and now it's spreading all over the state.

Get ready for stage 4.

Not quite sure how your premier is at fault for this................

"Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews said from the 3,810 cases between July 7 to July 21, 3,400 cases did not isolate when they first felt sick and when they went to get a test."

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-...ost-1191270732

roKWiz · 22-07-2020, 01:53 PM

Whatever happened to all the fly in isolation at Christmas Island, it all seemed to go wrong from then.
If they had stuck to the original plan, no one would have been shipped off to Hotel quarantine in Victoria and other states in the first place.
If you were dumb enough to not come back to Oz as first requested, that's where you should have ended up for at least 40 days.

**Polyal** · 22-07-2020, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roKWiz

Whatever happened to all the fly in isolation at Christmas Island, it all seemed to go wrong from then.
If they had stuck to the original plan, no one would have been shipped off to Hotel quarantine in Victoria and other states in the first place.
If you were dumb enough to not come back to Oz as first requested, that's where you should have ended up for at least 40 days.

100% We are an island nation and we still stuffed it