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03-11-2020, 08:47 AM | #1 | |||
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https://www.mercedes-amg.com/en/pres...tion/m139.html She's got nothin' on the Toyota 1VD-FTV Last edited by Franco Cozzo; 03-11-2020 at 08:53 AM. |
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08-11-2020, 06:07 PM | #2 | ||
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If it’s extremely responsive it should make its maximum torque at 2500 rpm not 5000 rpm
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08-11-2020, 06:19 PM | #3 | ||
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Das Gud Ze Gurmains Rok Ya
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08-11-2020, 06:23 PM | #4 | ||
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I'd smash it with my V6 Diesel !
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09-11-2020, 04:19 AM | #5 | ||
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Hi,
You wonder about the durability and cost of ownership. AMG is known for some extremely expensive parts. I wonder how much does a long-block for an M139 cost over the spares counter here in Australia? I would be surprised if it is less than AUD 40k. When it comes to performance, throwing a whopping 2.1 bar of boost on a 2-litre engine isn't exactly first time it has been done for motorsports applications or by aftermarket tuners, but it isn't often it is done for mass produced consumer cars. Motorsports applications from the 80s and 90s, such as Lancia, Peugeot, Renault and Ford were applying 1.6 bar to 2 bar of boost already back then. Here is a snippet about Ford RS200: Engine
Compression ratio: 7.2:1. Bosch Motronic engine management system and fuel injection. Garrett T3 turbocharger/boost pressure 23 psi (1.6 bar). Max. power: 450 PS (331 kW; 444 hp) at 8,000 rpm Max. torque: 360 lb⋅ft (490 N⋅m) at 5,500 rpm The accident at Rally Portugal set off a chain reaction and the RS200 became obsolete after only one full year of competition as the FIA, the governing board, which at the time controlled WRC rally racing, abolished Group B after the 1986 season. For 1987, Ford had planned to introduce an "Evolution" variant of the RS200, featuring a development of the BDT engine, called later as BDT-E, displacing 2,137 cc (2.1 L; 130.4 cu in), developed by Briton Brian Hart. Power figures for the engine vary quite a bit from source to source, depending on the mechanical setup e.g. boost levels, power output ranges from as little as 550 hp (558 PS; 410 kW) to as high as 815 hp (826 PS; 608 kW); although most typical output was 580 hp (588 PS; 433 kW) at 8000 rpm and 400 lb⋅ft (542 N⋅m) at 5500 rpm of torque.[2] It has been said that the most powerful Evolution models can accelerate from 0 to 60 mph (97 km/h) in just over two seconds, depending on gearing. Upgraded brakes and suspension components were part of the package as well. The ban on Group B racing effectively forced the E2 model into stillbirth; however, more than a dozen of them were successfully run from August 1986 'til October 1992 in the FIA European Championships for Rallycross Drivers events all over Europe, and Norwegian Martin Schanche claimed the 1991 European rallycross title with a Ford RS200 E2 that produced over 650 bhp (485 kW). Ford RS200 at the Spirit of Rally 2005 One RS200, which found its way into circuit racing, originated as a road car; it was converted to IMSA GTO specification powered by a 750+ BHP 2.0 litre turbo BDTE Cosworth Evolution engine. Twin scroll turbochargers isn't exactly new technology either. Subaru STi have had it from about year 2003 onwards. With a modern direct injected engine such as the Ford Ecoboost 2.3 in the Focus RS, throw a stage III tuning kit on it with the same 2.1 bar of boost, and it will probably also have quite impressive performance. One thing is for sure; I will not be the owner of an AMG that has expired manufacturer's warranty. Cheers, |
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09-11-2020, 09:07 AM | #6 | ||
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Only a matter of time for BMW to responds by tweaking the B48 engine which has had 225KW for some time now
The P48 which is the race version already has a whopping 455KW https://www.thedrive.com/accelerator...ome-since-1969
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