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28-10-2021, 12:46 PM | #16501 | ||||
The 'Stihl' Man
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Better than leaving it to choice or chance.
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28-10-2021, 12:53 PM | #16502 | |||
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I think it’s just MORE control
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28-10-2021, 01:09 PM | #16503 | ||
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Funny isn't it: when I read Trev's post, I read it as supporting your point of view. Then, when I saw your responding post, I had to reread it thinking that I had completely misinterpreted it. Now that I've read it again, I don't think it's discussing the point of control at all. I just read it as a statement of fact/info.
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28-10-2021, 01:19 PM | #16504 | ||
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Looking forward to my first road trip this side of the lockdown, albeit just one day. Taking my elderly neighbour to visit her sister (who has dementia and a neuropathic complaint) near the Big Merino, and then on to Canberra for my Gumtree score.
I’ll loan my user account to someone for the day - that should liven things up. |
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28-10-2021, 01:53 PM | #16505 | |||
Peter Car
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Or do what most other countries are doing, rapid tests. They should have been pushing this if they really cared about public safety, and not scare mongering rubbish and forcing people to comply via underhanded coercion. A rapid test actually proves whether a person is covid positive or not, while someone who's allowed in cause they are vaxxed might be carrying it. But people like Dan Andrews would rather demonize people, and use the pandemic to get control over the masses by turning people against each other. A tactic straight from the communist manifesto. |
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28-10-2021, 02:58 PM | #16506 | ||
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That's how they marked the Lee Enfield 303s, so you should also add the broad arrow to the forehead for the Victorians, cause of their 'special legislation'.
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28-10-2021, 04:02 PM | #16507 | ||||
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I might be old fashioned though
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28-10-2021, 04:27 PM | #16508 | ||
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how many $ billions will the economy lose from the unvaxxed?
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28-10-2021, 04:52 PM | #16509 | ||
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28-10-2021, 05:20 PM | #16510 | |||
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so Victoria then??
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28-10-2021, 05:58 PM | #16511 | |||
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for the schoolies.. do you think they sudden rise is due to return to school policy??
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28-10-2021, 07:53 PM | #16512 | |||
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Too many followers and not enough leaders, you can call em what you like but in reality they are of low IQ and opine like, they need to be helped along the way, there is nothing wrong in that! |
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28-10-2021, 08:43 PM | #16513 | ||
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We are currently seeing the current hysterical demand's to curtail people freedom and their speech,
Especially with the current era of lock-downs and coerciveness drives in effect to force people into life long medical subjugation. In effect we took freedom for granted; In 2020 with into subscription model, no six month needle no freedom for you... communism at its best..
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28-10-2021, 09:05 PM | #16515 | ||
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Saw a great placard on YouTube the other day.
“Where there is risk there must be choice” |
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28-10-2021, 10:18 PM | #16516 | |||
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Just another Communist plot |
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29-10-2021, 06:22 AM | #16517 | ||
The 'Stihl' Man
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There has been choice through this whole episode. No one is forcing anyone to obey an law or mandate etc, there still is a choice. Whether people think its fair or not is perhaps the issue but choice remains.
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29-10-2021, 08:12 AM | #16518 | ||
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I just don't get the whole anti-vaccine thing. What is the issue ?
I'm old enough to remember people dying from Polio, Smallpox & Dyptheria. At school we were given vaccines of all types & if we went overseas we had extra shots, otherwise no Visa & therefore no overseas trip. Never heard a single gripe in over 50 years. Now we have another pandemic & some in the community are taking this strange anti-vax stance. What has changed ? Is it the internet spreading half-truths. Do we have a higher percentage of morons in the community nowadays ? Watch the movie Idiocracy if you're not sure what I'm on about. Not trying to stir the pot, just asking an honest question. Dr Terry |
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29-10-2021, 08:23 AM | #16519 | |||
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And then that person lights up there 15th cigarette for the day, safe in knowing that no evil vaccine gets into their system to give their immune system a head start on an existential threat.
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29-10-2021, 08:26 AM | #16520 | |||
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The difference between then and now is social media. The algorithms are designed to keep you on the platform, so you click on something it will suggest more of the same. Soon enough all you see is the same rubbish over and over... and you become convinced Social media turns your brain to mush.
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29-10-2021, 08:36 AM | #16521 | ||
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Anti-vaxxers have been around long before covid. I think the recent trend can be traced back to a Dr Andrew Wakefield who had his medical ticket pulled for fraudulent research linking the MMR vaccine to autism. Despite all the evidence against him he still has a following. The internet just means he can find an audience more easily.
I know a family whose child died because she was too young to be vaccinated. These parents watched their child slowly choke to death because people in their community wouldn't vaccinate against whooping cough. So I am far from unbiased on the issue. https://campaigns.health.gov.au/immu...t-immunisation |
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29-10-2021, 09:53 AM | #16522 | |||
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Even at high vaccination rates, there will still be transmission. I'm glad to see the MSM has finally caught up with my view (well the scientific view) that vaccinated people are ~60% less likely to spread the virus than the unvaccinated so all those statements in the fringe media about how it's no different are just plain wrong. In terms of the so-called 'breakthrough' infections, the best data set we have yet is from Massachusetts where detailed numbers have been kept since Delta became prevalent. They have had breakthrough cases in 1.08% of all those vaccinated and 0.04% of all vaccinated people have required hospitalisation while only 0.009% have died. Those numbers look quite good at face value and while they are certainly much better than the numbers for the unvaccinated it's not quite as good as it first seems. In total they have had 51,007 breakthrough cases in fully vaccinated people. Of those, 1,880 have been hospitalised which is 3.6% and 406 have died which is a CMR of 0.796%. In fairness, that's still a lot better than their overall CMR of 2.51% but I'd really expect it to be lower.
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29-10-2021, 10:07 AM | #16523 | |||
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This covid virus has more potential to decimate humanity than all the world wars last century? But there is a difference between subjective and objective desire in the covid case! |
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29-10-2021, 10:16 AM | #16524 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
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Dr Terry |
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29-10-2021, 10:20 AM | #16525 | |||
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29-10-2021, 10:24 AM | #16526 | |||
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The internet does not spread anything, it's a machine, like a gun, it's the operator that loads the information, or ammo and then presses "enter" never realising that information is really travelling to every corner of the globe?....to be read by anyone, IQ and common sense are irrelevant as it is digested differently by all who look! And it's not stirring the pot, it's adding to the debate, I like honesty.... |
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29-10-2021, 11:00 AM | #16527 | |||
Peter Car
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Then for many people, especially the young and healthy, it’s taking in the consideration of the minimal risk of actually getting sick and dying from covid, which is only 1 or 2%. Then you probably have people who live in remote areas who really have no reason to get it. Then there are people who don’t want political over reachers like dan andrews telling them what to do. And there are also people who can’t for medical reasons. I respect their ability to choose for themselves. Now i sit here and wait for someone to attack me for providing these thoughts. The rabid pro-vaxxers are just as bad as the rabid anti-vaxxers. But they also add a higher level of self righteousness and the inability to believe anything that they didn’t get told from the media. True sheep with the inability to think for themselves. |
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29-10-2021, 11:10 AM | #16528 | |||
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That was introduced around about 1967-68, before that the Polio vaccine was in the form a large (read painful) needle. The Sabin version was very much welcomed to the scene. Dr Terry |
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29-10-2021, 11:17 AM | #16529 | ||
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NSW/VIC
NSW records 270 cases in the current period and the 10-day average growth rate decreases to 1.0100 (from 1.0204) while the actual line remains above the predictive trend line which is changed to a 4th order polynomial again. VIC records 1,656 cases in the current period and the 10-day average growth rate decreases to 1.0070 (from 1.0128) while the actual line moves below the predictive trend which has been changed to a 4th order polynomial.
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29-10-2021, 11:20 AM | #16530 | |||
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My general point is that is like the mask issue. We didn't wear mask to stop "getting" Covid, we wore them to stop spreading (i.e. transmitting) the disease. Being vaccinated not only protects the person receiving the vaccine, it substantially reduces the likely transmission of the virus, most anti-vaxxers don't care about that aspect. Dr Terry |
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