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Old 24-01-2007, 07:38 PM   #8
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Id like to see that, then we will get to the corners and its all over
Open the Motor Mag with the PCOTY. Check SS (SS is same drivetrain, suspension and wheels/tyres as Calais) laptime versus GT (I know the F6 was better but we don't seem to be commenting on the best car FPV produce), whoops guess he couldn't drive a Ford proparly, not like you aye. :

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The VE came up short for me. As for hero cars and where they should sit in the scheme of things, I wonder why a carry over Ford product was able to comprehensively beat the supposedly best hero car to ever come out of Holden performance workshop?
Having read the PCOTY writeup, it really was dissapointing. Value for money. Whats that got to do with performance. A Enzo has stunning performance, but would be beaten by a Corolla given Motors critera. Holdens Performance arm produced a car which beat the F6 (lets not mention the GT) in 0-100, 1/4 mile and lap time (straight line and cornering for those who need it explained). The fact its paint shade didn't match somebodies wifes lipstick so it got a low score just shows the value of all these awards.

The biggest problem I see is that most people on this site still don't understand that Holden doesn't see Ford as their competitor anymore. They have happily handed over the fleet market so Ford can battle Toyota for the biggest discount. Holden have gone out to take on the world and so far have certainly at least managed to open the door. Ford meanwhile are struggling to complete the Orion (the BF/BF2 upgrade was basically cosmetic because Ford didn't have the money to do anything else).

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Resale rating over three years for the FPV GT is 58%, resale rating for the VE SS-V over three years is 53%, resale rating for the VE Calais is 48%. Massive.
That is not a fact its somebodies opinion. The VE Calais has only been out six months. Ask the Leasing companies what they see the resale as being, they all revised their costs in December because they now beleive the VE models will have better resale than the VZ's which their initial cost models were based on (I know cause I got 3 quotes over 4 months on VE SV6 before I got my BF XR6).

Oh and while I'm at it lets take a stab at why the GT is so much more than just the car. Could it be that Ford are trading off the name and heritage of the best performance car to come out of Australia SO FAR (GTHO). It surely isn't because the GT is in the same league as its namesake. In fact if you think the GT is anything more than an overpriced average performance car then you really are the exact target Ford aimed the car at, good luck to you. I have a bridge you could also invest in.

Well done Holden the VE was a deserving winner (except the pov pack Omega/Berlina), this year. Orion will not be the 2008 COTY as it will not be released in time for next years awards. (Judging is Jan 08, Orion target release is April 2008). It will therefore be eligable for the 2009 COTY. Its main competition could be the VF Commodore.
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