Wheels August 2009

[Swordsman88]

Originally Posted by Wretched

Ball is in Ford's court, my hat off to Holden for at least doing something.

Man am i getting sick of this beauty!!! These days its the default position for the holden apologists. Yes it is true Holden is often more daring RE product planning. They bring out the big stuff at motorshows and are always trying 'new things', but how much of this is really there work and how much of it actually works anyway.

This is like the debate over the VE styling...i had a holden fanboy tell me that because it was 'out there' and 'agressive' with its wheelarches it was ok that on base form it looked ridiculous!!!! Lots of people on here bag Ford for not having a go, and think that Holden is unfairly treated because its a Ford forum. I think they get of lightly to be honest. If Ford had such a woeful track record of new models/technology so dismally failing we would never hear end of it.

In the last 5 years Holden has released a V6 that is far from competitive, stuck with a 4sp auto drivetrain that is surely the worst on the planet and give us AFM...which is as ineffective as it is marketable. And this is just on the local commodore. Look at other models and it gets worse....adventura was a massive flop, W427 though ballsy never got going and those AWD HSV coupes were really worth the effort...... Then of course there is the daewoo debacle...

But its all rosey at Holden land because they are 'having a go'. This is serious business, having a go isn't enough. Its not like hitting off the tee in golf, getting near the green isn't enough. It may be a long bow to pull but is it any wonder the mob behind these 'adventurous' and ultimately unsuccessfull projects just came out of the biggest bankruptcy in automotive history? I think not!!!!