Help me settle argument (Holden based)

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Hey guys...

I've got a good mate of mine who is a Holden Nut ( : ) and we arguing about the origins of the Holden Commodore...

I was basically trying to explain to him that the original commodores (VB VC) were infact based entirely from a european car from Vauxhall... infact they are the same car...

The same was said about the VN version of the commodore, which was again based on Vauxhall cars...

He claims that the Euro's copied the Australian Designed and Built Commodore... and I'm saying that Holden basically just used the GM links thru Vauxhall and Opel and copied the whole car from something that was already made/designed...

See the following photos - there is no doubt that they are the same car (front and rear differences with lights and grill) but look at the doors, and shapes/sizes... they are the same...

Can anyone help me out??

Below: Opel Senator 1983/1984

Below: Vauxhall Carlton 1978

Below: Vauxhall Carlton Wagon 1979

Below: Holden VB Commodore 1979

Below: Vauxhall Carlton 1989

Below: Vauxhall Carlton 1990

Below: Holden VN Commodore 1990 (Vacationer - wicked!)

Below: Lotus Carlton 1991

Below: HSV VP Clubsport 1992


Hopefully you can see the link between the cars... and this kinda makes sense!!

Comments, Help me out??
Cheers - Loftie