Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums forum.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and inserts advertising. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features without post based advertising banners. Registration is simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Please Note: All new registrations go through a manual approval queue to keep spammers out. This is checked twice each day so there will be a delay before your registration is activated.

Go Back   Australian Ford Forums > General Topics > The Pub

The Pub For General Automotive Related Talk

 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Prev Previous Post   Next Post Next
Old 07-05-2010, 06:58 PM   #32
vztrt
IWCMOGTVM Club Supporter
 
vztrt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Northern Suburbs Melbourne
Posts: 17,799
Valued Contributor: For members whose non technical contributions are worthy of recognition. - Issue reason: vztrt is one of the most consistent and respected contributors to AFF, I have found his contributions are most useful to discussion as well as answering members queries. 
Default

Seems that Toyota think its feasible.

http://theage.drive.com.au/motor-new...0507-uhsr.html

Quote:
Hydrogen vehicle on sale by 2015
RICHARD BLACKBURN
May 7, 2010 - 10:14AM

Toyota says it could be selling a fuel-cell hydrogen vehicle in the United States by 2015.

Toyota could have an affordable hydrogen fuel-cell vehicle on the market in the United States by 2015.

The car maker has told Bloomberg news service in the US that it has drastically reduced the cost of producing fuel-cell vehicles in the past few years and may be able to sell a hydrogen model for about $US50,000 ($55,600).

That would bring it roughly into line with electric vehicles being developed by competitors including General Motors, which will begin selling the Volt plug-in hybrid later this year.

Toyota's managing director for advanced autos, Yoshihiko Masuda, told Bloomberg the car would have a range equal to a petrol-powered car, giving it an advantage over current electric cars, most of which have a range of less than 200km.

He said the company had managed to reduce the cost of producing a fuel-cell vehicle from about $1 million a car some years ago to roughly $100,000. It needed to cut that by half before retail sales were viable.

"Our target is, we don't lose money with introduction of the vehicle," Masuda told Bloomberg. "Production cost should be covered within the price of the vehicle."

Hydrogen fuel-cell vehicles have been pushed into the background as the industry searches for an answer to dwindling oil resources, with many dismissing the technology as too expensive.

After initially supporting the technology, the US Government has effectively abandoned it in favour of plug-in electric vehicles. Last year, the US Energy Department handed out $10 billion in financial support to electric vehicle research and development, while cutting fuel-cell funding to $68 million. It was later increased to about $190 million.

Despite the lack of government support, some of the world's biggest car makers – including Toyota, General Motors, Daimler AG, Honda and Hyundai – are pressing ahead with plans to have fuel-cell vehicles on sale by 2015.

Honda and Toyota both have fuel cell trials going in the United States, but a lack of refuelling infrastructure is hampering the commercialisation of fuel cell vehicles. Unlike plug-in electric vehicles, which can be hooked up to a domestic power point, fuel-cell vehicles need an extensive network of fuelling stations.

But advocates argue that once that network is in place – modifying the existing fuel station network is an obvious solution - fuel-cells have significant advantages over electric cars. They can be refuelled quickly, they have much longer range and they are not hooked up to an electricity grid that uses brown coal.

Toyota says it has been able to cut costs by reducing the use of platinum in its fuel cells. Platinum plays a vital role in the chemical process that occurs when hydrogen and oxygen are mixed in a fuel cell to produce electricity.

The company says further cost benefits will come when it begins mass production of fuel-cell vehicles.
__________________
Daniel
vztrt is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
 


Forum Jump


All times are GMT +11. The time now is 05:39 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Other than what is legally copyrighted by the respective owners, this site is copyright www.fordforums.com.au
Positive SSL