Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums forum.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and inserts advertising. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features without post based advertising banners. Registration is simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Please Note: All new registrations go through a manual approval queue to keep spammers out. This is checked twice each day so there will be a delay before your registration is activated.

Go Back   Australian Ford Forums > Club and Speciality Forums > Forum Community Car Clubs > AU Falcon.com.au

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-05-2007, 08:19 PM   #1
GK
Walking with God
 
GK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 7,321
Tech Writer: Recognition for the technical writers of AFF - Issue reason: Writing tech articles 
Default S1 Cluster Upgrade - Coming Soon!

Hi all,

I've got the cluster, oil pressure sender, the 27mm deep tube socket (thanks JC) and a stack of info, including a pic of the pin positions. I want to thank Falkeen (Adam) for an absolute stack of help with answering questions and LG for putting me onto him. Much appreciated all.

I had the Futura dash out tonight and quickly slipped the XR one in. As predicted, the Oil Gauge, Dash Illumination, ABS light upon startup and the Right side Indicator were all missing.

The dash has spots for 3 plugs, one on the right, two on the left, the upper one is missing from the low series loom.

Falkeen told me that he wired up 4 separate wires to those corresponding pins (that do the functions I mentioned above) on the top left spot on the cluster, then cut those matching wires out of the single plug and attached them up outside the normal plug arrangement. Then he plugged the right and left plugs in and voila! All systems go! He did mention heat shrinking the wires up to keep them separate. I don't yet know what shrink wrap is and how to do it, but I will soon. LOL!

I've got it pretty much sussed out in my mind, it did take some toing and froing with Falkeen via email, but I'll soon give it a go.

Of course I'll do a write up with pics, as is my usual custom.

Cheers,

GK

__________________
2009 Mondeo Zetec TDCi - Moondust Silver

2015 Kia Sorento Platinum - Snow White Pearl

2001 Ducati Monster 900Sie - Red

Now gone!
1999 AU1 Futura Wagon - Sparkling Burgundy
On LPG



Want a Full Life? John 10:10
GK is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 12-05-2007, 05:00 PM   #2
GK
Walking with God
 
GK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 7,321
Tech Writer: Recognition for the technical writers of AFF - Issue reason: Writing tech articles 
Default

Thanks for moving the thread Casper!

Well the dash is in and even the oil gauge is working. Took a fair amount of angling with some extra bar extentions and a uni joint. But it's in.

The only problem though, the temp gauge doesn't work. Fuses all seem fine, I didn't think I knocked any wires off, I pulled the dash back out and reconnected the plugs to ensure a good click fit, still not working.

The low coolant light is in operation as it lights up at startup (S1's had the sender in the reservoir) and the little red thermometer lights up and disappears upon startup, but I have no idea why the temp gauge isn't working!

Any ideas where to start looking?

Maybe I shorted something in the pins. I think the tube of heat shrink went over both pin 1 and 2. I'll need to check the diagram, but I though pin 1 wasn't used for anything.

GK
__________________
2009 Mondeo Zetec TDCi - Moondust Silver

2015 Kia Sorento Platinum - Snow White Pearl

2001 Ducati Monster 900Sie - Red

Now gone!
1999 AU1 Futura Wagon - Sparkling Burgundy
On LPG



Want a Full Life? John 10:10
GK is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 12-05-2007, 05:14 PM   #3
GK
Walking with God
 
GK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 7,321
Tech Writer: Recognition for the technical writers of AFF - Issue reason: Writing tech articles 
Default

Wiring Information for the AU Series I Instrument Clusters
AUI Falcon Low Series Instrument Cluster (Forte/Futura Models)Left Hand Side Instrument Cluster Connector

Pin 1 Not Used  Â
Pin 2 Not Used  Â
Pin 3 Not Used  Â
Pin 4 Not Used  Â
Pin 5 Not Used  Â
Pin 6 Not Used  Â
Pin 7 Spare LED #5 Switch to ground or Open Circuit Â
Pin 8 ABS Warning Lamp Open Collector Orange/Black
Pin 9 Heated Backlight (Rear Window Demister) +12V Light Green/Black
Pin 10 Alternator Fail Open Collector Grey/Red
Pin 11 L.H. Blinker +12V Light Green / White
Pin 12 High Beam Warning Lamp +12V Light Green / Black
Pin 13 Park Lamps (+ Dial Illumination) +12V On Brown
Pin 14 Brake Fail 0V On Pink / White
Pin 15 SmartLock/Sheild LED Ground On Dark Blue / Light Green
Pin 16 Spare LED #2 +12V On Â
Pin 17 Not Used  Â
Pin 18 Park Brake warning lamp 0V On Red / Orange
Pin 19 RH Blinker +12V On White / Light Blue
Pin 20 Spare LED #3 +12V On Â
Pin 21 Dial Illumintation Negative (Dim) 0V Bright - 10V Dim Light Blue / Red
Pin 22 Air Bag Warning Lamp Open Collector Black / Yellow
Pin 23 Not Used  Â
Pin 24 Not Used  Â
Pin 25 Not Used  Â
Pin 26 Not Used  Â
Pin 27 Not Used  Â
Pin 28 Not Used  Â

AUI Falcon Mid / High Series Instrument Cluster (XR/Fairmont/Ghia/Fairlane/LTD/Tickford Models)Left Hand Side Instrument Cluster Connector
Pin 1 Autolamp off Overide (High Only) ADC Input Â
Pin 2 Park Lamp (Dial) Positive Illumination +12V Brown
Pin 3 Dial Illumination (Negative) Dimmer PWM From BEM - 0V Bright - 10V Dim Light Blue / Red
Pin 4 Fuel Flap open Input (High Series Only) Resistance 180 Ohm Open - 1380 Ohm Closed Orange
Pin 5 Right Rear Door Switch (High Series Only) Switch to ground open Black / Orange
Pin 6 Front Left Passenger Door Switch (High Series Only) Switch to Ground open Brown
Pin 7 Rear Left Door Switch (High Series Only) Switch to ground open White / Pink
Pin 8 Boot Lid Open (High Series Only) Switch to ground open White / Pink
Pin 9 Heated Backlight (Rear Window Demister) +12V Dark Blue
Pin 10 Alternator Fail Open Collector Light Green / Red
Pin 11 L.H. Blinker +12V Light Green / White
Pin 12 High Beam Warning Lamp +12V Light Green / Black
Pin 13 Spare LED #2 +12V On Â
Pin 14 Brake Fail 0V On Pink / White
Pin 15 SmartLock/Sheild LED Ground On Dark Blue / Light Green
Pin 16 Spare LED #4 +12V On Â
Pin 17 Door Ajar Output (High Series Only) Open Collector Â
Pin 18 Park Brake warning lamp 0V On Red / Orange
Pin 19 Not Used  Â
Pin 20 Spare LED #5 +12V On Â
Pin 21 Spare LED #3 0V Bright - 10V Dim Â
Pin 22 Air Bag Warning Lamp Open Collector Black / Yellow
Pin 23 ABS Check Open Collector Tan / Light Blue
Pin 24 Not Used  Â
Pin 25 Not Used  Â
Pin 26 R.H. Blinker  White / Light Blue
Pin 27 Not Used  Â
Pin 28 Not Used  Â

AUI Falcon Low/Mid/High Series Instrument ClusterRight Hand Side Instrument Cluster Connector (Common for all models - J2)
Pin 1 Power Ground Ground Black
Pin 2 Signal Ground Ground Black / Light Green
Pin 3 Low Coolant Resistance Yellow / Red
Pin 4 Ignition Power +12V with Ignition On Red / Dark Green
Pin 5 Low Oil Warning (Low Series)Oil Pressure (Mid/High Series) 0V Low Oil0V Low Pressure, 12V High Pressure White / Red
Pin 6 Door Ajar (Low / Mid Series)Front Drivers Door open (High Series)/TD> Ground when any door openGround when Drivers door open Black / Light Blue (Low/Mid)White (Hi)
Pin 7 Fuel Sender Resistance Yellow / Dark Green
Pin 8 Spare (Low and Mid Series)MDC Tx Data (High Series) Â Output to Trip/Climate Control Center Orange
Pin 9 Spare (Low and Mid Series)MDC Rx Data (High Series) Â Input from Trip/Climate Control Center Yellow
Pin 10 Low Washer Fluid Input Switch to ground for low fluid Pink / Yellow
Pin 11 Spare (Low Series)Traction Control Warning Lamp (Mid/High Series)/TD> Â Ground to Illuminate Dark Blue
Pin 12 Airbag Audible warning Open Collector Orange / Yellow
Pin 13 EEC V Data (Serial) Open Collector (Sheilded Data Line)
Pin 14 Diagnostic ISO Serial I/O Open Collector Pullup Batt Not Connected
Pin 15 LCD Dimmer Input 2 Stage (Low Series)LCD Dimmer Input Variable (Mid/High Series) Ground/ResistanceOpen Collect PWM Output from Bem White
Pin 16 Tacho Input Pulsed from 0V to +12V White / Pink
Pin 17 Speed Input Pulsed from 0V to +12V Light Blue / White (Hi) / White (Low)
Pin 18 Speed Output Pulsed form 0V to +12V White
Pin 19 Speedo Sender power supply +8.2V Red (Hi) / Yellow/Light Green (Low)
Pin 20 Battery Power +12V Black / Orange

This is the info I consulted. I don't see any reason why the gauge shouldn't work. Pin 1 looks to not be used. I don't think the heat shrink did anything.

Can anyone else? What should I look for?

I wonder if the sender fried itself?

GK
__________________
2009 Mondeo Zetec TDCi - Moondust Silver

2015 Kia Sorento Platinum - Snow White Pearl

2001 Ducati Monster 900Sie - Red

Now gone!
1999 AU1 Futura Wagon - Sparkling Burgundy
On LPG



Want a Full Life? John 10:10
GK is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 12-05-2007, 09:59 PM   #4
Umineko
Karasu
 
Umineko's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Melbourne Vic
Posts: 208
Default

The temperature sender might be different in the low end models (not sure about this) but given the changes you've made I'd be double checking the wiring first. also just because pin 1 isn't used for any given function doesn't mean it's not routed to something in the circuit board which could cause you problems, I'd fix that issue and elliminate it from the equation first and then start looking for other issues. A continuity test on the temp sender circuit would be my first stop just to make sure you haven't accidently seperated a plug somewhere in the loom. The temperature sender provides a gradually reducing resistance to earth and they are pretty robust things so you've not likely fried it.
Umineko is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +11. The time now is 11:31 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Other than what is legally copyrighted by the respective owners, this site is copyright www.fordforums.com.au
Positive SSL