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Old 02-08-2008, 01:15 PM   #91
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It's all about controlling the masses through limiting their freedoms. Think the nonsensical ads now thrust upon us promoting climate change; the information is spurious at best and their proclamations that we have been getting hotter etc. in the last ten years are absolutely and scientifically proven lies. Again, it's all about controlling the masses.
With our cars, it is no different. They want us all to drive the same government sanctioned car that our PM and treasurer and other bottom feeders in the fed drive (Pious), the same ways at the same speed limit. Sort of a like the movie demolition man. Now, I know this may be misconstrued into conspiracy theorist nonsense, but remember the supposed trial 50kmh speed limits which are now law on even major roads? What about the thousands of speed cameras that allow absolutely no tolerance whatsoever?

Here in NSW (No Services or Water) the state government has spent absolutely nothing on roadworks for atleast ten years, as a result, the roads are in such a bad state of disrepair that they routinely lower speed limits to limit impact damage over pot holes and corrugations in order to alleviate the spate of claims lodged against councils. Of course, this method is seriously flawed as they thought we would all become passive drivers going slower when in fact the extra hour in traffic to travel the same 10klm has only seen a rise in aggression and rage. It is also fundamentally flawed on the basis of the sanctioning of various restrictions such as the fuel economy (such as in the first post), when in fact to keep these same jerks have been advocating and installing speed humps and chicanes that necessitate greater acceleration.

What I propose, is that we neuter all government officials to clean the gene pool and ensure they never reproduce, and any other overly simplistic troglodyte such as the guy who thinks travelling 10% slower will reduce fuel consumption 10% (not factoring in the extra 10% time which will see the same consumption). I am actually semi qualified in aerodynamics (ATPL), and there is no magic barrier at 100klm/h besides, cars have progressively become more streamlined over the years for this purpose.

I also think that we should only ever vote for politicians who are somewhat petrol heads and not pious driving socialists hell bent on the ruination (love that word) of our society so that they can sniff their own blamps ala South Park style in the name of political correctness.
Yes, I'm ranting but I know a thing or two about politicians that have risen way above their qualifications and want to make a mark on the country albeit through spurious and fanciful means designed to force the population into submission. Think Global warming? More like think Global Religion or New World Order in the name of our PM Lenin or whatever his name is. Sorry to rant guys, but this kind of crap is only going to get much worse.
Please spare us your political rants,if you feel that strongly about it go and run for election,Id vote for you if only it means I never have to read your dribble ever again..
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Old 02-08-2008, 01:22 PM   #92
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Dumb hippy cow ?

I actually see these types as sheep.
Just a tip mate, don't mention sheep around these idiots, they'll then start prattling on about mulesing and how we are torturing the sheep for fun. Don't think you can inform them by showing them a maggot infested lamb either; their answer to that is that we should perform surgery on every individual head of sheep in the country regardless of the cost.
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Old 02-08-2008, 01:36 PM   #93
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Please spare us your political rants,if you feel that strongly about it go and run for election,Id vote for you if only it means I never have to read your dribble ever again..
Not meant to be overly political at all. Regardless of which side is in power, if they started this rubbish I would rubbish them too. Also, didn't the other side agree with most of the climate policy? If we can't get on this forum to air grievances about being overly policed in our freedoms such as cars and the nonsense that various groups espouse which limits these same freedoms, then what is the point of the forum?
I merely was trying to paint the picture which seems to becoming a reality that large cars like Fords are indirectly the target through fuel usage or carbon emmissions of those that see the Prius as the new world saviour. Again, regardless of which political side is in power I would rubbish them equally depending on proposals designed to disadvantage anyone who doesn't agree with the propaganda and hype.
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Old 02-08-2008, 01:50 PM   #94
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Geez this makes me angry, I drive on the freeway everyday and if anything, the limit should be raised 10km/h, there's a section of freeway heading up the coast which years ago was raised to 110km/h and traffic flows really well, so lowering it isn,t going to do anything but congest traffic even more....
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Old 02-08-2008, 02:13 PM   #95
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Not meant to be overly political at all. Regardless of which side is in power, if they started this rubbish I would rubbish them too. Also, didn't the other side agree with most of the climate policy? If we can't get on this forum to air grievances about being overly policed in our freedoms such as cars and the nonsense that various groups espouse which limits these same freedoms, then what is the point of the forum?
I merely was trying to paint the picture which seems to becoming a reality that large cars like Fords are indirectly the target through fuel usage or carbon emmissions of those that see the Prius as the new world saviour. Again, regardless of which political side is in power I would rubbish them equally depending on proposals designed to disadvantage anyone who doesn't agree with the propaganda and hype.
Piers says the same thing funnily enough,yet Im still waiting to see it,wont be holding my breath...

Just for the record,I dont give a rats about climate change,I just remember 1996 all too well...
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Old 02-08-2008, 02:41 PM   #96
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Old 02-08-2008, 02:46 PM   #97
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HA!
I'm glad when my mum asked if i wanted to read it i said no. i literally would have threw up everywhere. hahaha!

rpm causes racing not speed? BS! i'll just change my gear ratio's so i have 6 gears but it goes through them in half a second i'll be sitting on 120 right from the word go!

I also laugh at the lines for the woolies 4c fuel savings.
People walk out of there with a 600ml coke that cost $4 and a pie thats $4 both inflated 200% and then they go bitching about fuel pricing?

I've also started making my own lunch, not eating out so much, etc. When it comes to fueling up you just fill the tank end of story. i'm not ignorant i just don't see the point in the huge kafauffle.

oh maybe some of us should write in to that mag... i bet they only published it because only 2 people wrote in!
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Old 02-08-2008, 04:40 PM   #98
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Here in NSW (No Services or Water) the state government has spent absolutely nothing on roadworks for atleast ten years, as a result, the roads are in such a bad state of disrepair that they routinely lower speed limits to limit impact damage over pot holes and corrugations in order to alleviate the spate of claims lodged against councils.
I wouldn't say absolutely nothing. There are large sections of road that I routinely travel on that are constantly being improved and upgraded. Several sections of the Princess Highway, for instance, are currently being widened and/or repaired.

Are there roads that require TLC? Absolutely. I don't have facts and figures infront of me as to the cost of what needs done and the money available to do it with. I do know that I already pay a shedload of tax for the priveledge of living in NSW and I don't want to pay a single cent more.
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Old 02-08-2008, 05:09 PM   #99
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August Wheels have a brilliant mythbusteresque article on the "green guide to save petrol".

It shows that reality and theory are a long way apart.
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People who are minding their f**ing business and get stuck behind a car that takes ages to accelerate and then doesn't even go at the speed limit (and eg. miss a sets of green lights because of that) are entitled to loose their patience. Accidents will happen and road rage incidents will only get worse.
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In these times of costly fuel prices, it would make sense to reduce the speed limit by at least 10km/h, especially on freeways. This would result in a 10% saving on fuel and safer roads. From my observation of freeways with speed restrictions due to roadworks, traffic flow seems to be smoother. When you see 110 drive 100, 80 drive 70, etc. B.M.

i am in tears ... 10km/h = 10% fuel saving :

shows how little this person knows about fuel injection, let alone cars ...

lets make a short and simple calculation (figures taken from my fuel map in my commodore)

100km/h = 2050rpm in 4th gear, 13.1HG vac, 12% TPS => 4.08ms
110km/h = 2200rpm in 4th gear, 11.5HG vac, 13% TPS => 4.21ms

4.08 to 4.21 is not a 10% difference, so by simply going by this example, it is more fuel economical to travel at 110km/h. I am happy to pull some fuel maps from skylines, falcons and other cars to justify this calculation, but i vote for increase of speed limit to save fuel
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i think we should ban the slow drivers, they obviously dont care about getting somewhere in time and dont need to use their cars, therefore reducing petrol consumption and freeing up traffic congestion because they dont move through lights quick enough.
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Old 03-08-2008, 06:34 PM   #103
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i think we should ban the slow drivers, they obviously dont care about getting somewhere in time and dont need to use their cars, therefore reducing petrol consumption and freeing up traffic congestion because they dont move through lights quick enough.
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Well that is the RAAAcv mentality for you lets drive everywhere at idle...............which has the highest burn rate always has always will
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