Psychology of speed camera placement

[fangq]

For those in the SE corner of Qld, you'd be aware of the new speed cameras being sited in the area. One that concerns me is the unit at Nudgee on the Gateway arterial ( heading south ) It's based in the reduced 90 km/hr zone, and would no doubt have been placed there to slow people down prior to a barely adequate merging ramp zone.

Watching the traffic flow the other afternoon, and after the brake light mamba, quite a few are nailing it once they have passed the unit. So, now we have a situation where a fair number of drivers whose internal dynamic/attitude has just gone into " screw the revenue raising yada yada ", are flashing past the merge lane.

Just wondering if the powers that be looked at past driver behaviour around speed cameras generally before they sited the unit

I forsee problems with this one..

Steve

[geckoGT]

Originally Posted by fangq

For those in the SE corner of Qld, you'd be aware of the new speed cameras being sited in the area. One that concerns me is the unit at Nudgee on the Gateway arterial ( heading south ) It's based in the reduced 90 km/hr zone, and would no doubt have been placed there to slow people down prior to a barely adequate merging ramp zone.

Watching the traffic flow the other afternoon, and after the brake light mamba, quite a few are nailing it once they have passed the unit. So, now we have a situation where a fair number of drivers whose internal dynamic/attitude has just gone into " screw the revenue raising yada yada ", are flashing past the merge lane.

Just wondering if the powers that be looked at past driver behaviour around speed cameras generally before they sited the unit

I forsee problems with this one..

Steve

I see your point completely, they should have placed it in a similar place to the unit on the M1 near the Marshall road on ramp north bound, sign before the merge and the camera covers the merge lane as well. We have seen a significant drop in accidents at this merge. I used to attend accidents there all the time, have not been to one since the camera was put in (that is just my personal experience, not saying there have not been any).

You wait until they put a mobile camera unit in 200m up the road to catch all those that accelerate, then it will go nuts. They used to do this in NSW when I lived there. Set up a speed camera, 1km up the road there would be another or a cop with a gun to catch all those that thought they had been past one trap so it must be safe to put the foot down for a while.

[UNR8D]

they were doing that for the one on the bruce hwy the other weekend when I was heading up north, green XR6 HWY patrol about 2k past the camera, he was still there 3 hours later on a return trip dont know how many he got thou....

[flappist]

The problem is the lobby groups with a fixation on speed.

Lower the limit, still fatals.

Must all be speeding.

Put in a camera, still fatals.

But it must be speed because if it is not then they are wrong and as they can never be wrong it must be speed.......

[geckoGT]

Originally Posted by flappist

The problem is the lobby groups with a fixation on speed.

Lower the limit, still fatals.

Must all be speeding.

Put in a camera, still fatals.

But it must be speed because if it is not then they are wrong and as they can never be wrong it must be speed.......

Or the camera is placed poorly :

[mrbaxr6t]

Originally Posted by geckoGT

Or the camera is placed poorly :

any camera that pings me a fine is placed poorly :

[cosmo20btt]

Originally Posted by flappist

The problem is the lobby groups with a fixation on speed.

Lower the limit, still fatals.

Must all be speeding.

Put in a camera, still fatals.

But it must be speed because if it is not then they are wrong and as they can never be wrong it must be speed.......

Agreed very good point, and add that these are the new one armed bandits, or cash cows.