Australian Factory Supercar's Quarter Mile Times

[TZENU]

Originally Posted by sleekism

Does anybody know what the XE Falcon Turbos ran???

What about the GTHO Phase5????

From memort the Plymouth Roadrunner with the 426 Hemi ran low 13's and then with modern tyres ran low 11's.

My mechanic has a Chevrolet Monte Carlo SS454 I wonder what times it ran??

Phase 5s were not a Ford Aus Production Car....

The XE turbos ran high 14s low 15s... IIRC, Correct me if im wrong

[4Vman]

Originally Posted by sleekism

Does anybody know what the XE Falcon Turbos ran???

What about the GTHO Phase5????

Ford never produced either vehicle... which is probably why performance figures don't exist for them!!

[Steffo]

Originally Posted by sleekism

My mechanic has a Chevrolet Monte Carlo SS454 I wonder what times it ran??

7.7 sec 0-60mph and 16.2 @ 90mph 1/4 mile. 360hp 500ftlb (269kW 678Nm) 454ci (7.4L) Big Block V8.

[R0BD0G]

what about the cammer fastback

[sleekism]

Originally Posted by 4Vman

Ford never produced either vehicle... which is probably why performance figures don't exist for them!!

I have seen in Australian Muscle Cars Magazine both of these cars. I think they produced 2 Phase 5 (XE??) Falcons and I'm not sure how many XE Turbos but it was just short of the number required for homolgation.

Actually this opens up a whole new can of worms of Ford development vehicles produced over the years ie.

Didn't Ford produce a 300kw 4.6L Falcon showcar back in the 90's.

Also wasn't there a minute number of XU2 Toranas produced??

Wasn't there also a few Commodores produced in the 80's with 350 Chevs??

[4Vman]

Originally Posted by sleekism

I have seen in Australian Muscle Cars Magazine both of these cars. I think they produced 2 Phase 5 (XE??) Falcons and I'm not sure how many XE Turbos but it was just short of the number required for homolgation.

Actually this opens up a whole new can of worms of Ford development vehicles produced over the years ie.

Didn't Ford produce a 300kw 4.6L Falcon showcar back in the 90's.

Also wasn't there a minute number of XU2 Toranas produced??

Wasn't there also a few Commodores produced in the 80's with 350 Chevs??

I think you're confusing aftermarket with OEM...
Dick Johnson did some Grandprix XE's, but they're not an official Ford Vehicle, the "phase 5" was an aftermarket bodykit....

[WaxEm]

FPV F6 Typhoon - 13.5 (magazine) 12.7 (real life at the strip)
FPV GT - 13.7 (magazine) 13.3 (real life at the strip)13.3 FPV GT? more like high 13s
HSV GTS 307 VE - 13.5 (magazine) 12.9 (real life at the strip) 12.9? dont think so bit to quick
HSV GTO VZ - 13.0
HSV SV300 - 13.2
Ford Falcon XR8 BA/F - 13.8 (magazine) 13.6 (real life at the strip) 13.6? dont think so
Ford Falcon XR6 Turbo BF - 13.7
Ford Falcon XR6 Turbo BA - 13.9
Ford TE50 AUIII - 14.2 (magazine) 13.6 (real life at the strip)
Ford TE50 AUII & XR8 220kW - 14.3 more like 14.5
Ford TE50 AU & XR8 200kW - 14.5 more like 15.0 and the series one high 15s
Ford Falcon GT EL - 14.9
Holden Commodore SS VX - 13.9
Holden Commodore SS VY - 13.8
Holden Commodore SS VZ LS1 & 6.0 - 13.7
Holden Commodore SS VE - 13.4

[vztrt]

Originally Posted by WaxEm

FPV F6 Typhoon - 13.5 (magazine) 12.7 (real life at the strip)

While this thread is almost 3 years old.

13.2 for the GT now.

[flappist]

The problem with a lot of the figures is that the "real life at the strip" numbers are with non factory tyres and non factory pressures with excess weight removed on extra sticky surface with a little bit of roll-on hedging so they can't be compared to others.

The magazines play it fairly and use accelerometers.

[NAK302]

.......and justifacation is needed when spending over a hundred large for a 40 year old car.

[JAYBA]

Originally Posted by WaxEm

FPV F6 Typhoon - 13.5 (magazine) 12.7 (real life at the strip)
FPV GT - 13.7 (magazine) 13.3 (real life at the strip)13.3 FPV GT? more like high 13s
HSV GTS 307 VE - 13.5 (magazine) 12.9 (real life at the strip) 12.9? dont think so bit to quick
HSV GTO VZ - 13.0
HSV SV300 - 13.2
Ford Falcon XR8 BA/F - 13.8 (magazine) 13.6 (real life at the strip) 13.6? dont think so
Ford Falcon XR6 Turbo BF - 13.7
Ford Falcon XR6 Turbo BA - 13.9
Ford TE50 AUIII - 14.2 (magazine) 13.6 (real life at the strip)
Ford TE50 AUII & XR8 220kW - 14.3 more like 14.5
Ford TE50 AU & XR8 200kW - 14.5 more like 15.0 and the series one high 15s
Ford Falcon GT EL - 14.9
Holden Commodore SS VX - 13.9
Holden Commodore SS VY - 13.8
Holden Commodore SS VZ LS1 & 6.0 - 13.7
Holden Commodore SS VE - 13.4

WTF are these figures..

i like the "more like" and dont think so's

vx & vy's ss's posting high 13's.. i think that deserves a dont think so then because not many do..

many of those times have been repeated & beaten at the strip..
if this thread is gonna have any weight keep it as published times or quickest time slip posted by a stock car

[dieseltrain79]

Neither a Holdens or FOrd ....

Couple weeks ago at Sydney DRagway on wed night..

Brand new Porsche Turbo S ..... Stock as rock as tested by Wheels Magazine ... 10.8 @ 133mph ...

True Supercar .. Sorry but a HVS or GT ford is not a supercar in my opinion . They are overproduced family sedans . Both nice cars to own and drive , but def not a supercar .

[Sorted]

Originally Posted by dieseltrain79

Neither a Holdens or FOrd ....

Couple weeks ago at Sydney DRagway on wed night..

Brand new Porsche Turbo S ..... Stock as rock as tested by Wheels Magazine ... 10.8 @ 133mph ...

True Supercar .. Sorry but a HVS or GT ford is not a supercar in my opinion . They are overproduced family sedans . Both nice cars to own and drive , but def not a supercar .

overpriced? What's the price of said modified beetle that hasn't changed it's body style for decades?

[prasac]

Originally Posted by Sorted

overpriced? What's the price of said modified beetle that hasn't changed it's body style for decades?

he said they were over-produced not overpriced, i thought the same thing when i first read it

[PHANTMXR6]

I don't think a Porsche would qualify anyway as it's not an Australian Factory Supercar.........

[prasac]

Originally Posted by PHANTMXR6

I don't think a Porsche would qualify anyway as it's not an Australian Factory Supercar.........

would u class a Holden or a Ford as a Supercar or more a High-Performance Vehicle?

'Supercar is a term used most often to describe an ultra-high-end "exotic" automobile, whose performance is superior to that of its contemporaries. It has been defined specifically as "a very expensive, fast or powerful car".[1] Stated in more general terms: "it must be very fast, with sporting handling to match," "it should be sleek and eye-catching" and its price should be "one in a rarefied atmosphere of its own".'

[castellan]

I like to see the 400 meter times and the 500, 600 and 1000 meter times. that shows the truer performance potential.
Something may be fast to the 400m but after that it could be a slug.

[dieseltrain79]

Not to mention people pay 70-90k for GT and HSV cars nowadays ..

I can Promise they wont be worth 5 times that in years to come, unlike the old true " Supercars " of Australia ...

Hence overproduced statement . They are just a badge used to sell the car nowadays , where as back in the old days, a GT ford or E49 charger or Xu1 Torana was a pretty special limited run . And nothing else from the factory would come close !

Now you have a GT ford which is slower than the turbocharged 6 in every way possible . Thats pretty sad to me .