What was wrong with XR8?

[b0son]

Originally Posted by roberts

But the complainers will complain no matter what they drive.

I think its safe to say most people here would consider me a complainer. I've never complained about my Golf GTI.

It. Just. Worked.

[prydey]

Originally Posted by roberts

true, but it will only be a matter of time before a 17 year old buys and ex taxi with a millon ks on it, gets a $500 dollar body kit and $500 spray job and his car looks better when driving than you $50,000 car and all of a sudden your swept into the "hoon" target list for the Saturday night revenue raising.
This very thing happened when i had a baII xr8, and all the xt's with gt kits started popping up, my car looked lame in comparison.

so car makers should make cars that can't be made to look better in the aftermarket?? i'm not sure what you're getting at there.

[burnz]

can someone fill in the question mark's

FG XR8 base level

suspension???
wheel's/tires???
engine 5.4 boss
drive line???
level of trim embossed seats, steering wheel???
retail price when new


FG FPV GS base level

suspension???
wheel's/tires???
engine 5.0 miami
drive line???
level of trim???
retail price when new
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this thread looks so black and white, so i ask a b/w question..

[onfire]

Originally Posted by Adamz Ghia

Not his fault Ford don't offer the options that Holden do...

Exactly. This is what the FG XR8 is competing against.

I'll take a stab that both these images are official marketing images from each respected company. Looking at those images, Holden knows how to market their car, even in the most basic of images. So, not only do they have a much more exciting V8 model.. they sell it better too.

Still.. here's apples for apples.

[kpcart]

Originally Posted by onfire

Exactly. This is what the FG XR8 is competing against.

I'll take a stab that both these images are official marketing images from each respected company. Looking at those images, Holden knows how to market their car, even in the most basic of images. So, not only do they have a much more exciting V8 model.. they sell it better too.

Still.. here's apples for apples.

its not just the photos, thats the difference in the flesh too, the holden just looks better unfortunantly, and the proof is in the sales.

[Venomous1]

It's sad not to have the XR8 in the line up.

[gtxb67]

Originally Posted by onfire

Holden knows how to market their car

holden market better, because no ones cares about how far they go. in an age where creulty to cattle is high on people's minds, holden suggest their seats are made from the angriest bulls. they always show adds where their vehicles are being used in hoon like situations and yet no one complains. ford cannot get away with that, they even had people complaining when they did a parady on oj's chase. the xr8 doing around 20 kph and people still complained because it was supposed to be evading the police

[landau460]

The ve is a good lookin car but would not say a better looking car just differant and yes i would at 39000 bucks concider very seriously buying.
Would like to have more options other than mostly cosmetic.

On the whole base model look and the gt differance in the earlyer days with looks the differance was paint colour and badge (xr). Go forward to (XB) prob paint some stripes and coloured bumpers, wheels. Then (eb) you had a kit wheels prob colour. (el) body kit wheels probly colours again. (ba) kit again wheels and colours. (fg) same thing.
I am fine with these cars lookin similar ro each other.
We can compete with these imported cars easily. I doubt very much what is a base model car from say bmw to compete with xt falcon would be $43000.

Isnt the main reason for european car prices cause the import tax? Other wise we would be stuffed.
I think the xr8 has come along just nice from its beginings and should stay online kind of like buying a brand new older gt at a reduced price.

[MAGPIE]

Originally Posted by kpcart

its not just the photos, thats the difference in the flesh too, the holden just looks better unfortunantly, and the proof is in the sales.

In your opinion...

On the street I think the XR8 and SS both look great, but the XR8 edges it in my opinion.

However in the pic above the SS looks hot and the XR8 looks not.

[anto]

Originally Posted by kpcart

its not just the photos, thats the difference in the flesh too, the holden just looks better unfortunantly, and the proof is in the sales.

do you even own a ford ? the FG sh*ts all over that thing ! you dont know what youre talking about.

[onfire]

Originally Posted by gtxb67

holden market better, because no ones cares about how far they go. in an age where creulty to cattle is high on people's minds, holden suggest their seats are made from the angriest bulls. they always show adds where their vehicles are being used in hoon like situations and yet no one complains. ford cannot get away with that, they even had people complaining when they did a parady on oj's chase. the xr8 doing around 20 kph and people still complained because it was supposed to be evading the police

I think Holden just understand their demographics a little bit better when addressing things like marketing. They know that the SS, and even Sports V6 models are primarily aimed at the 25-40 male demographic.

While Ford seem to either lack the understanding or try to sit on the fence of who and which demographics they're building these cars for.

Take these commercials for each vehicle:

BF XR8 Ute:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kd2mMa0KqE

VE SS Ute :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEHFBfVGvrI

Holden, not only re-enforce the idea that the Commodore is Australia's most loved car, but sell it again, and again. In this case, sell it again, and again to the 25-40 male demographics appealing to said demographic again and again.

All the Falcon add tells me is that " blokes " like the XR8 Ute... yet don't tell me why.