Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums forum.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and inserts advertising. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features without post based advertising banners. Registration is simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Please Note: All new registrations go through a manual approval queue to keep spammers out. This is checked twice each day so there will be a delay before your registration is activated.

Go Back   Australian Ford Forums > General Topics > The Pub

The Pub For General Automotive Related Talk

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-09-2012, 06:18 PM   #61
Sprint
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Sprint's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 2,049
Default Re: Is there any harm giving out your Vin number to strangers?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kryton
So now he needs to be up front and explain to you why he is buying something your selling - what world do you live in?
I also fail to see how he is rebirthing a vehicle - perhaps you should look the term up.
BTW since your apparently soooooooooooo careful about posting the ID of your vehicle........
Yeah in fear of people who dig like you, thanks for that.
Sprint is offline  
Old 05-09-2012, 06:33 PM   #62
GasoLane
Former BTIKD
Donating Member2
 
GasoLane's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Sunny Downtown Wagga Wagga. NSW.
Posts: 53,197
Default Re: Is there any harm giving out your Vin number to strangers?

Quote:
Originally Posted by klawsterfobik
Tropical battery option GasOLane... very nice indeed.
Not me, I bought it second hand.

Anyway, coming from Germany anything would be a Tropical battery.
__________________
Dying at your job is natures way of saying that you're in the wrong line of work.
GasoLane is offline  
Old 05-09-2012, 06:36 PM   #63
AU Mont
Banned
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: NSW
Posts: 1,424
Default Re: Is there any harm giving out your Vin number to strangers?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sprint
Yeah in fear of people who dig like you, thanks for that.
dont worry mate

apprently when you sell something nowadays, your also expected to roll over & bark like a dog then fetch a ball too
AU Mont is offline  
Old 05-09-2012, 07:17 PM   #64
midnightXR6
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Aberdeen, Scotland
Posts: 328
Default Re: Is there any harm giving out your Vin number to strangers?

I need to see a copy of the vin number for a ute i want to buy for the ADR numbers so i know what build date i can import to the uk but so far nobody wants to do it.

I can see their reasoning though as it sounds dodgy.
midnightXR6 is offline  
Old 05-09-2012, 07:34 PM   #65
66GT
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 327
Default Re: Is there any harm giving out your Vin number to strangers?

I get providing vin no's if you purchased 2 damaged Hyundai Get's & use 1 to repair the other. But I have accumulated a collection of spares for my car (just in case) & have no vin details of the cars they have come from. How would I & many others get on selling these parts if we chose? I know i didn't steal them but can't prove this to any prospective buyer.
66GT is offline  
Old 05-09-2012, 07:41 PM   #66
Auslandau
335 - STILL THE BOSS ...
 
Auslandau's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Melb East
Posts: 11,421
Default Re: Is there any harm giving out your Vin number to strangers?

Quote:
Originally Posted by 66GT
I get providing vin no's if you purchased 2 damaged Hyundai Get's & use 1 to repair the other. But I have accumulated a collection of spares for my car (just in case) & have no vin details of the cars they have come from. How would I & many others get on selling these parts if we chose? I know i didn't steal them but can't prove this to any prospective buyer.
You can sell them and use them until your little heart is content ....... BUT

If you want to use them for the purpose of reviving a VIV, Vin numbers need to be provided for various major parts which has been stated above. As someone buying these parts for this purpose really does need to know what is required. That is the end of the story.

If anyone doesn't want to give the Vin number, that's their perogitive but no harm can come of it but you may not be able to sell to a very small %. That is all. Has NOTHING to do with selling parts privately or stock piling for selling or using down the track.



__________________
'73 Landau - 10.82 @ 131mph
'11 FG GT335 - 12.43 @ 116mph
'95 XG ute - 3 minutes, 21.14 @ 64mph


101,436 MEMBERS ......... 101,436 OPINIONS ..... What could possibly go wrong!

Clevo Mafia
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Auslandau is offline  
Old 05-09-2012, 07:46 PM   #67
Sprint
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Sprint's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 2,049
Default Re: Is there any harm giving out your Vin number to strangers?

Yeah i hardly think wreckers would even bother and pass you onto a fake number?

He was not straight up with me so i dont feel obligated.

Plus i dont even want to be involved with Vic roads as i hear they are fun guys to hang out with.
Sprint is offline  
Old 05-09-2012, 07:48 PM   #68
Pepscobra
Call me dirt... Joe Dirt
 
Pepscobra's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Back in Perth for good
Posts: 5,302
Default Re: Is there any harm giving out your Vin number to strangers?

Victoria really does make things difficult...
__________________
2007 BFII FPV Cobra Ute|Boss 302|6M|#23/100
Mods so far:
Billet Products Shifter|X-Force Exhaust|Herrod Oil Breathers|Whiteline Sway Bar|Tein SuperStreets|Kings FOR-303SL Rear Springs|Melling Oil Pump|Mace Manifold Spacers|Powerbond Underdrives|Pacemaker Headers|Ballistic Cats|XFT Custom Tune @ 308.3rwkw|DBA T3 Rotors|Ferodo Pads|Goodridge Braided Lines
Mods to come:
4.11 Diff Gears|Chromoly Tailshaft
I use & recommend:
Castrol|Motorcraft|Mainlube|Penrite


Check Out My Build Thread
Pepscobra is offline  
Old 05-09-2012, 07:59 PM   #69
Auslandau
335 - STILL THE BOSS ...
 
Auslandau's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Melb East
Posts: 11,421
Default Re: Is there any harm giving out your Vin number to strangers?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sprint
Yeah i hardly think wreckers would even bother and pass you onto a fake number?

He was not straight up with me so i dont feel obligated.

Plus i dont even want to be involved with Vic roads as i hear they are fun guys to hang out with.
You aren't obligated ..... but you can do the right thing by him. If you don't want to ..... your decision but I feel for the bloke as it is a dead easy thing to give for no threat of anything. Being up front with you? He asked for the Vin the car came off?

The bloke might not have known, he does now and will be more careful when buying. I don't know what you are afraid of though. Can go down to Woolworths now and collect a couple of dozen Vins in 5 minutes from BA's. He hasn't asked for your PIN number?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pepscobra
Victoria really does make things difficult...
When getting a car off the register and getting it back into a RWC state ..... yes there are some hurdles to jump and for obvious reasons. The car was written off for a reason! It only relates to these circumstances and really really isnt that hard.



__________________
'73 Landau - 10.82 @ 131mph
'11 FG GT335 - 12.43 @ 116mph
'95 XG ute - 3 minutes, 21.14 @ 64mph


101,436 MEMBERS ......... 101,436 OPINIONS ..... What could possibly go wrong!

Clevo Mafia
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Auslandau is offline  
Old 05-09-2012, 08:16 PM   #70
pottery beige
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 18,990
Default Re: Is there any harm giving out your Vin number to strangers?

weve not long had electricity in radelaide.. only one person in my street has a telephone..

all this vin bizzo appears above board and a good thing..

still wouldnt get a vin out of me..
pottery beige is online now  
Old 05-09-2012, 08:36 PM   #71
Auslandau
335 - STILL THE BOSS ...
 
Auslandau's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Melb East
Posts: 11,421
Default Re: Is there any harm giving out your Vin number to strangers?

Takes 2 seconds to find out in Vic .....

http://vre.vicroads.vic.gov.au/VRESearch.aspx


All details including Vin, Rego exp, disputes .... etc



__________________
'73 Landau - 10.82 @ 131mph
'11 FG GT335 - 12.43 @ 116mph
'95 XG ute - 3 minutes, 21.14 @ 64mph


101,436 MEMBERS ......... 101,436 OPINIONS ..... What could possibly go wrong!

Clevo Mafia
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

Last edited by Auslandau; 05-09-2012 at 08:50 PM.
Auslandau is offline  
Old 05-09-2012, 08:47 PM   #72
gcg2503
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 10,840
Valued Contributor: For members whose non technical contributions are worthy of recognition. - Issue reason: Always adding valued comments,  never involved in any disputes. A credit to this forum. 
Default Re: Is there any harm giving out your Vin number to strangers?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wise
And what would the case have been if he bought it from the wreckers?? They may not have had the VIN of the car it came from - could have been crushed already after being stripped of parts!
Wreckers are required to provide and keep paperwork of VINs for wrecks that meet the crusher

To the op - you are being extraordinarily difficult for such a trivial thing

Can't believe the mindset of some on here
gcg2503 is offline  
Old 05-09-2012, 10:02 PM   #73
Wise
DWF00N
 
Wise's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: The Riff Brah
Posts: 3,327
Default Re: Is there any harm giving out your Vin number to strangers?

Quote:
Originally Posted by GhiaEB
They would just go to another one of their wrecks and get the number of that.
So it really doesn't matter what car it came from?
__________________
The F00N

Now for sale - 30k
Wise is offline  
Old 05-09-2012, 10:18 PM   #74
Sprint
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Sprint's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 2,049
Default Re: Is there any harm giving out your Vin number to strangers?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wise
So it really doesn't matter what car it came from?
As long as they have the previous owners name,address,phone numbers, reciept,vin numbers and the right to ring you up and ask you questions to prove you did own it?

Maybe hassle you and ask you why you sold the parts and is your vehicle now a wreck?.

He is thinking about his vehicle and im thinking about mine, what if a vic buys my car in the future and it says i dont have the right bumper?does it mean i canot sell to a victorian in the future without dramas?

Rather stay out of that one..

Last edited by Sprint; 05-09-2012 at 10:24 PM.
Sprint is offline  
Old 05-09-2012, 10:25 PM   #75
MrEL
Sick Puppy
 
MrEL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,963
Default Re: Is there any harm giving out your Vin number to strangers?

Quote:
Originally Posted by pottery beige
zomg... ive posted plenty of pics on here with my plates for all to see on the internetz..
paranoid bout being pulled in for a roadworthy.. nup..
paranoid bout finding out where I live.. nup..
much easier to knock off when I'm out n about..

You have taken me wrong with what I said.
My plates are all over the net as well.
I have no fear about a roadworth as my junk is all engineered and legit.
Not paranoid about where I live. Cars are driven daily and parked in the front yard.
What I was saying about quoting of plates in spotted threads possibly causing issues is if you were "spotted" parked out the back of the polly waffle , going for a run up the coast when according to work you were sick etc.
There has to be a little privacy about. As I said I see him giving the parts buyer a VIN number causing less issues then any of the above can cause.
MrEL is offline  
Old 05-09-2012, 10:27 PM   #76
Auslandau
335 - STILL THE BOSS ...
 
Auslandau's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Melb East
Posts: 11,421
Default Re: Is there any harm giving out your Vin number to strangers?

Do want ever ...... but I think you are over thinking it just a way bit too much.



__________________
'73 Landau - 10.82 @ 131mph
'11 FG GT335 - 12.43 @ 116mph
'95 XG ute - 3 minutes, 21.14 @ 64mph


101,436 MEMBERS ......... 101,436 OPINIONS ..... What could possibly go wrong!

Clevo Mafia
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Auslandau is offline  
Old 05-09-2012, 10:28 PM   #77
pottery beige
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 18,990
Default Re: Is there any harm giving out your Vin number to strangers?

Quote:
Originally Posted by MrEL
You have taken me wrong with what I said.
My plates are all over the net as well.
I have no fear about a roadworth as my junk is all engineered and legit.
Not paranoid about where I live. Cars are driven daily and parked in the front yard.
What I was saying about quoting of plates in spotted threads possibly causing issues is if you were "spotted" parked out the back of the polly waffle , going for a run up the coast when according to work you were sick etc.
There has to be a little privacy about. As I said I see him giving the parts buyer a VIN number causing less issues then any of the above can cause.
haha your cool..
pottery beige is online now  
Old 05-09-2012, 10:33 PM   #78
MrEL
Sick Puppy
 
MrEL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,963
Default Re: Is there any harm giving out your Vin number to strangers?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sprint
As long as they have the previous owners name,address,phone numbers, reciept,vin numbers and the right to ring you up and ask you questions to prove you did own it?

Maybe hassle you and ask you why you sold the parts and is your vehicle now a wreck?.

He is thinking about his vehicle and im thinking about mine, what if a vic buys my car in the future and it says i dont have the right bumper?does it mean i canot sell to a victorian in the future without dramas?

Rather stay out of that one..

Your thinking waaaaaaay too deeply into it.
He is not rebirthing a car.
Your VIN will not be listed on any register. They will go through the paperwork , check that your car isnt stolen or written off , pass the guys car as repaired and then take your receipt and precious VIN to the dunny and use it as wiping paper.
They want to know the ins and outs of a chooks rear nowdays to shut down the midnight spares industry which one day will protect all of our cars better.
You wont even get a phone call about it.
VINs mean nothing at the end of the day. I needed a VIN to order parts from a dealer to do a brake upgrade on my 4x4. Nissan cant even find the listing for the required bolts etc on their computers without a VIN due to the vast range of different models. 5 minutes on eBay had me a VIN for the required model so the parts could be found and ordered.
MrEL is offline  
Old 05-09-2012, 10:36 PM   #79
Sprint
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Sprint's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 2,049
Default Re: Is there any harm giving out your Vin number to strangers?

there is a midnight spare industry?what the!

Anyway i think we can go on forever and agree to dissagree, kinda suprised the thread got the attention it did.
Sprint is offline  
Old 05-09-2012, 10:44 PM   #80
Auslandau
335 - STILL THE BOSS ...
 
Auslandau's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Melb East
Posts: 11,421
Default Re: Is there any harm giving out your Vin number to strangers?

Probably becuase you asked the question ....... Is there any harm giving out your Vin number to strangers? ..... and even though it has been shown that the VIN is not anything important to anyone, only an ID tag for that particular car, can be obtained in a matter of seconds if required, cannot be used by anyone else for any other purpose, cannot be used to rebirth another car, cannot be duplicated as only 1 Vin per car allowed, has no harm in being provided, less importants than a rego number plate, may be required when reviving a written off vehicle ....... you had already decided that the poor bloke who did not know about this until he forked out quite a few $$$ now has to sell it (or provide another Vin number) to someone else and then buy another with a Vin provided ........ ???? Just a thought.



__________________
'73 Landau - 10.82 @ 131mph
'11 FG GT335 - 12.43 @ 116mph
'95 XG ute - 3 minutes, 21.14 @ 64mph


101,436 MEMBERS ......... 101,436 OPINIONS ..... What could possibly go wrong!

Clevo Mafia
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Auslandau is offline  
Old 05-09-2012, 10:48 PM   #81
Sprint
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Sprint's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 2,049
Default Re: Is there any harm giving out your Vin number to strangers?

Well he should have been upfront and i would have sold to someone else instead of comming clean with his car rebirthing issues after the sale was finalized.

Its just a bumper.

thread closed
Sprint is offline  
Old 05-09-2012, 10:52 PM   #82
MrEL
Sick Puppy
 
MrEL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,963
Default Re: Is there any harm giving out your Vin number to strangers?

He is not rebirthing a car!
Do you even know what rebirthing a car actually is?
MrEL is offline  
Old 05-09-2012, 10:55 PM   #83
XRGhia
meh.
Donating Member3
 
XRGhia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Was Central Coast, Now Sydney NSW
Posts: 8,584
Technical Contributor: For members who share their technical expertise. - Issue reason: Contributions in the technical arena. 
Default Re: Is there any harm giving out your Vin number to strangers?

Seriously, what harm will it do? It's up to you wether you wish to provide it or not. Clearly you don't wish to, so just state you don't want to give out your VIN unless it's to VicRoads directly...
__________________
Previous - BF XR6T - 325rwkw, 6 Speed Auto, Process West, X-Force and Turbosmart gear
XRGhia is offline  
Old 05-09-2012, 10:55 PM   #84
FPV+fteT3
Performance Inc.
 
FPV+fteT3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: In a cave
Posts: 2,554
Default Re: Is there any harm giving out your Vin number to strangers?

So I guess your not going to man up and offer a refund to the buyer then?
Starting to wonder about the origins of your ebay sale parts..
__________________
In The Garage...

FPV Super Pursuit Build no 0080/91
Lotus Exige S/C S240

Kart Hasse Chassis 100J Power

Quote:
Originally Posted by flappist
Rental cars, the equipment of choice to get to destinations where 4WDs fear to drive......
FPV+fteT3 is offline  
Old 05-09-2012, 11:11 PM   #85
Auslandau
335 - STILL THE BOSS ...
 
Auslandau's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Melb East
Posts: 11,421
Default Re: Is there any harm giving out your Vin number to strangers?

Question asked ..... advice given. Can't do much more than that.



__________________
'73 Landau - 10.82 @ 131mph
'11 FG GT335 - 12.43 @ 116mph
'95 XG ute - 3 minutes, 21.14 @ 64mph


101,436 MEMBERS ......... 101,436 OPINIONS ..... What could possibly go wrong!

Clevo Mafia
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Auslandau is offline  
Closed Thread

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +11. The time now is 09:55 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Other than what is legally copyrighted by the respective owners, this site is copyright www.fordforums.com.au
Positive SSL