What tech missing from Australian cars?

[PG2]

Originally Posted by Grunter

To those that disagree that tech is needed or believe its a distraction, is there anything that's been mentioned, that you see as a benefit for a updated Falcon (and Territory)?

I know some of you wished the most tech cars had, is a crank handle to start them (I kid, I kid, ;) ), but is there one feature listed in this thread, as something you see as neccessary for the Falcon to compete against other similaly priced large cars (i.e. VF Commodore, 300C, all models inc FPV/SRT/HSV)?

To be clear, I'm not talking about heated/cooled cup holders, but what you would see as a geniune feature that the Falcon (Territory) needs, that will/can assit sales from Joe Public.

This is a really good question.

Maybe it needs to be broken down into two questions. First one being, what does the Falcon need for particular international markets for it to be an export success, and, secondly, what does it need to be competitive in the domestic market.

I have plenty of time on my hands at the moment and have been looking at the international websites and it appears manufacturers option up the same car differently depending on what country it is exported to.

[SumoDog68]

Falcon/ Territory need to cover most of commonly available options ( heated seats, sunroof, folding mirrors, auto windows , navigation and connectivity ) and than introduce something that is not available anywhere else. Innovate in some way.

[1TUFFUTE]

I tell you what...all I expect from the next falcon is its usual step up in quality, economy and features. As long as they are moving ahead with every new model im happy. Im allready happy with the fastest, biggest, safest, sexiest, roomiest, best handling and comfiest thing this side if a kia/Hyundai or a cherry.

[NX74205]

Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

Are you talking philosophically, or as in, right now with FGII?

A bit of both. I understand there might be technical reasons why the FGII don't have it, but it would be nice if it did. The way I see it, there's no excuse for the 2014 Falcon if it isn't as fully kitted out as cars that cost the same or are cheaper.

Originally Posted by block58

Are we all becoming a bunch of softies? I don't understand the demand for heated seats, seems like they would just make you tired, much like the heater does.

Also, blind spot detection is just lazy, and could cost a lot if it "missed" a car in your blind spot and you were to used to not looking.

I could probably live without heated seats but not cooled seats. Ever tried sitting in a car with leather seats when it's been out in the sun on a 40C day?

And blind spot detection isn't laziness, it's a safety net. Good driving habits shouldn't die off with advancements in driver aids such as this and lane departure warning, these driver aids are just that - aids. I have reverse sensors on my car, but I still turn my head back whenever I'm reversing. Having blind spot detection isn't going to stop me from physically checking my blind spots, but it's there as a safety net in case I screw up.

[pottery beige]

i reckon a lot need to htfu with life in general.. then again the latest greatest jam packed gadgets double parked in a school zone really means a lot in little boring ramsey street lives..

[mik]

Originally Posted by NX74205

A bit of both. I understand there might be technical reasons why the FGII don't have it, but it would be nice if it did. The way I see it, there's no excuse for the 2014 Falcon if it isn't as fully kitted out as cars that cost the same or are cheaper.



I could probably live without heated seats but not cooled seats. Ever tried sitting in a car with leather seats when it's been out in the sun on a 40C day?

And blind spot detection isn't laziness, it's a safety net. Good driving habits shouldn't die off with advancements in driver aids such as this and lane departure warning, these driver aids are just that - aids. I have reverse sensors on my car, but I still turn my head back whenever I'm reversing. Having blind spot detection isn't going to stop me from physically checking my blind spots, but it's there as a safety net in case I screw up.

blind spot detection is a bit of a laugh, i had bloke run into me yesterday(while i was stationery ) because he couldn`t judge the size of his lumbering four wheel drive , people can`t even drive forward motion with plenty of visibility, fair dinkum we need fool spot detectors.

[falconnut]

Its kind of pointless to always put the latest tech in, especially new yearly refreshed models and alot of new tech is still in testing.

Ford AU are just trying to keep costs down but they are killing themselves

Tech should not constitute a good car but fickle consumers that know nothing about cars will flock to it like flies to poo

We are about 20-30 years behind in the engine department.
10 years behind in other area's like interior and standard features
5years+ on average though

[XR Martin]

Originally Posted by falconnut

We are about 20-30 years behind in the engine department.

Lols what?

What engine 30 years ago had 180kw/360nm from 2L, alloy head and block, direct injection, 4valves/cyl, independant variable cam timing, and turbo charger?

[1TUFFUTE]

he must have been joking because that's just silly

[Grunter]

Originally Posted by pottery beige

i reckon a lot need to htfu with life in general.. then again the latest greatest jam packed gadgets double parked in a school zone really means a lot in little boring ramsey street lives..

Thank you for that snippet of wisdon, in a thread that you obviously are unable to contribute to in any meaningful way. You have a finger on the pulse of AFF and the greater buying public! You da man!

Any wonder threads go down hill here theses days (and why a good number of regulars either don't bother, or rarely post anymore), it's not the "trolls", it's people like you attempting to be "funny" by belittling others when their opinions don't fit with yours or you perceive there's an anti Ford agenda (which there isn't).

Agree, disagree, but try and step up and contribute to the topic. It's really not that hard champ. Or hold up on the typing, go grab a cuppa and relax.

[Grunter]

Originally Posted by mik

blind spot detection is a bit of a laugh, i had bloke run into me yesterday(while i was stationery ) because he couldn`t judge the size of his lumbering four wheel drive , people can`t even drive forward motion with plenty of visibility, fair dinkum we need fool spot detectors.

You need to read up on it. It's got nothing to do with the situation you mentioned.

Did his 4x4 have BSD?, Does you car?

[4.0i OHC]

Originally Posted by falconnut

Its kind of pointless to always put the latest tech in, especially new yearly refreshed models and alot of new tech is still in testing.

Ford AU are just trying to keep costs down but they are killing themselves

Tech should not constitute a good car but fickle consumers that know nothing about cars will flock to it like flies to poo

We are about 20-30 years behind in the engine department.
10 years behind in other area's like interior and standard features
5years+ on average though

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV1LzXf1TKQ

[jpd80]

Next thing you know, people will be insisting on heated and cooled seats, heated steering wheels, massaging seats...the list goes on....

[In Focus]

I have a strong suspicion that, given a choice between, say, an extra airbag and a toy (your choice of feature/gimmick that constitutes a "toy"), the average punter would take the toy.

The knack is getting the right balance of toys/features for every model price point.

[GCRXR6]

Originally Posted by 4.0i OHC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV1LzXf1TKQ

How mush searching did ya do to get that little gem?

[block58]

Originally Posted by NX74205

I could probably live without heated seats but not cooled seats. Ever tried sitting in a car with leather seats when it's been out in the sun on a 40C day?

And blind spot detection isn't laziness, it's a safety net. Good driving habits shouldn't die off with advancements in driver aids such as this and lane departure warning, these driver aids are just that - aids. I have reverse sensors on my car, but I still turn my head back whenever I'm reversing. Having blind spot detection isn't going to stop me from physically checking my blind spots, but it's there as a safety net in case I screw up.

Yep, my car has leather seats, and to make it worse is a dark colour. Generations before us have been sitting on vinyl seats in the same condition, and the thing is, by the time the cooling kicked in you would have become used to it in normal conditions anyway.

It's great that you would use it as only a safety net, but that doesn't mean everybody else is the same. The world is full of terrible drivers, this could only make that worse in the case of a fault with the system.

[NX74205]

Originally Posted by block58

It's great that you would use it as only a safety net, but that doesn't mean everybody else is the same. The world is full of terrible drivers, this could only make that worse in the case of a fault with the system.

I would agree to the point that there are terrible drivers on the road, but that shouldn't deprive the rest of us of the "toys" in the cars.

I'd love to be a fly on the wall listening to a driver explaining to the insurer that they shouldn't be liable because their blind spot monitoring system failed ....

[TC200six]

This is a feature cars in the US have had for decades, but I've never seen it here. Combination keypads. I don't think we need it though.

[falconnut]

Yeah i wasnt serious

What i meant to say is that the i6 ford uses is really old.

Its still a great motor though.

Anyway we do seem to be missing alot of features on the models all through the range.

Too much too list especially for up spec models