Hail damage

[AGS302]

I'm pretty sure BadMax run a Panel Shop. I reckon he'd have a fair idea.

[FGII-XR6]

Originally Posted by AGS302

I'm pretty sure BadMax run a Panel Shop. I reckon he'd have a fair idea.

maybe but I have used the dry ice technique and it does work. remember a panel shop will want to do a paint and panel job so they will dismiss something that is not in their best interest, sound business practice

[BadMax]

No, saying something like that stems from somone having very little knowledge of the industry.
The facts;
Insurers will borline demand repair process'.
PDR is the most common repair process.
PDR is not always the solution to a correct repair.
Sometimes it's a combination of PDR, Conventional and replacement parts.
In some instances turrets are replaced because of either the damage sustained is excessive.
Sometime turrets are replaced because it's far more cost effective.
Sometimes a process called push to paint is used, where the panel is PDR'd to 90%, the panel is then sanded, primed and resanded to get the correct result.

Hardly 'your' dry ice technique, but could you imagine doing dozens if not hundreds of dents and customer expectations are for not to be able to see any signs of repair? It may work for a couple larger dents in your backyard but hardly a process that would easily be adopted into a volume repair situation.
I'm not saying dry ice or heat and rapid cooling doesn't work, it's not economical to do so. The other fact is, a panel shop is a business, it employs people, buys parts, sells labour and puts food on the table for thousands of people around the country, to dismiss these facts would be plain ridiculous. Does you boss employ you for no profit?
I'm not saying everyone does it the way it should be, but I think it's fair to say most do as opposed to most don't as you seem to think.

[Colum Black-Byron]

Here's an option...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paaIyWrKrOM

[Nikked]

Originally Posted by au3xr6

maybe but I have used the dry ice technique and it does work. remember a panel shop will want to do a paint and panel job so they will dismiss something that is not in their best interest, sound business practice

No, the panel shop would want to make the most out of an easy technique, shops get paid SFA to strip down cars...and repair times have been hammered.


If it was a 100% fool proof option, it would be used...saves spending money on tins of bog, sandpaper etc...

Same for PDR blokes...If rubbing dry ice ect over a dent worked, they wouldn't need their thousands of dollars worth of spoons, heat glues, plastic hammers etc...Save pulling all the trims out too!

[Crazy Dazz]

For reasons I never did really get to the bottom of, my 12yr old decided it would be a good idea to climb on the roof of one of our old AUs, with predictable results. So I got inside and pushed, dent “popped” right back out. Metal doesn’t have a memory per sae, but it does have a defined shape. If the dent is under tension and there has been no actual stretching or failure of the metal (ie it is simply sprung) then it may be possible for it to simply pop back into its original shape. As a very general rule, the deeper the dent relative to its diameter, the more likely you will have actual failure/stretching/deformation of the metal.
As for “rapid heating & cooling” EEK! I wonder how many of these panels that “look as good as new” will have corrosion / premature paint cracking problems later on???

Panel Beaters have to walk a fine line. Unless they have a a specialised niche business, they rely on insurance work. Not surprising since their business is fixing damaged cars and the majority of damage is covered by insurance. It is the insurance companies that constantly push for cheaper prices and fail to insist on quality repairs. I NEVER let the insurer dictate where the car is going. I take it to reputable shops and get as many quotes as the insurer requires. I’ve had the insurer insist on a 2nd quote (which I also got) but never refuse to use one of the shops I have selected. Used to be a bloody good shop in Landsdale, bloke knew his stuff and always did a top job. Then he sold it to a dill.

[H.G]

How much panel beating did the child receive?

[Bucknaked]

Any updates. Damage from the storm
Or all good?

[Pickle7]

Some repairs will only fix damage over a certain size depending on the age of the car.