Toyota recall. Another!

[FGII-XR6]

interesting to note how few there were for the AU compared to the BA.
proves what I have known for some time, the AU were one of the most reliable falcons made

[ryeman]

A lot to be said for rugged simplicity that Australian seem to undervalue.
If I lived in the remote areas of Oz, the AU would prove to be a better choice than today's 'technologically advanced' cars.

[jamies]

[QUOTE=wrongwaynorris;4615850]Thats the understatement of the century

Ha ha I was trying to be polite..

[Chrisosicko]

At least Toyota admit there is a problem a d fix it. Your being recalled maybe a inconvenience but at least it fixes the floors. Why can't more car companies be more like them!

[basteve]

Toyotas are bullitproof and the best ever made cars in history. They never break down. If you have one you are guaranreed they will go forever. Toyota owners believe this. They swear by them but someone has one in our family and it has various problems. Starter motor dead at 78000 kms new radiator. Etc. Headlining falling down, rattles here and there, very frustrating. Corolla very reliable, don't think so.

[DJM83]

Originally Posted by zabatron

Oh what a feeling!.....Not!....google toyota sludge problems...then you will see just how reliable they really are.

Yeah cool story, the bad stories always make the headlines whilst the good stories go unnoticed.

Happens with any manufacturer.

[GREGL]

I sometimes think to myself how lucky some people on here are , that they must go through life without any dramas with their chosen vehicle and any that do arise are so insignificant ( must believe the within factory specs drivel fed to em' ) , or on the other hand these same people have had when they have ventured away from the blue tinted glasses incredibly bad luck whereby they must have purchased one of the % of lemons produced by Toyota. (or never owned one and going on heresay in some cases)
We have only just purchased our first BRAND new car at 50 yrs old and woukl be estatic if we got through the warranty period without a hassle , however I wuold not be surprised at all if something arose.
Have known bucketloads of people who have bought new and used Toyotas and have never had a complaint. I had one and personally it was not to me a good experience but hey it didn't kill me nor has anyone else been that I have known with one . I've had the same annoying (always different) niggles that pee you off with all my cars over the years and they all cost you money and inconvenience. You come to expect it it and a Ford is no different.
As a footnote we didn't buy a toyota, holden or ford but a suzuki which has been around since 2007 in the current format so hopefully bugs sorted.

[sk8xr8]

I have worked with Toyota for the last 12 months, im very aware of all the steps taken to ensure quality of product and in 15 years as a mechanic id say that toyotas brand is by far the most reliable and best company backed product in the world, you have a dig at some minor issues that may very well be due to poor maintainence or neglect and slam a product for it? really?

To the OP about the airbag concern, it dosnt affect australian models for a start, so I wouldnt be having a brain bleed about it, secondly, Toyota is the number one selling brand in the world, led principally by the Hilux, knock it all you want but of all the manufacturers ive been involved with, Toyota is the only one that sit you down to explain their company history, philosophy and ethos, they pride themselves on their product and I can attest to their commitment first hand with regards to doing the right thing by their valued customers.

I know many of you on here will read this and snicker and made some snyde remarks, but id put it to you that your "experience" with the product is either very limited or you're just simply lyine to make yourself look knowledgable.

Im a Ford man through and through, but even I can acknowledge that our LM cars can take a page out of Toyotas book...

[jpblue1000]

Originally Posted by GREGL

but a suzuki which has been around since 2007 in the current format so hopefully bugs sorted.

My first new car was a 1992 Suzuki swift, not a GTi, owned it for 13 years amassing 430,000 km, with the only fault, covered under warranty being the drivers window winder mechanism, they replaced it without issue at a service. It was well maintained and managed a best of 1:25 at mallala so it got used. Didn't use a drop of oil or water in all that time.
Yet I hear some have difficulty with the diff cross pin shearing or driveshafts failing. I guess its as much how you treat it as how its designed and built.
Before you all start, yes I probably would have died had I been hit by a falcon but I didn't though some of them tried, and saved a shed load of cash to put towards my 400HP turbo escort and tow car.
I did get hit by a 20t truck, yep, it didn't stop at the stop sign and 't' boned the swift, we walked away and it was repaired, yes $11K repair on a 6 month old car.
I guess what Im saying, all cars are designed to a specification and a cost which are a compromise, they are designed by talented people, who would wipe the floor with most of us in the IQ stakes. When treated as per intended, not like a hire car, they last and perform as intended well, If it breaks we repair them anyone who purchases a machine believeing it will work faultlessly forever is either a fool or blind, anyone who complains about wear and tear after a reasonable time given the cars cost is a ****** and anyone who bags out a particular brand without the facts or personal experience must be accused of Bias.
From my research, yes an act of fact finding, Toyota tops many reliability, customer service and satisfaction surveys around the world, often beating many more expensive cars. They top these surveys in the first few years and continue well into the first decade of the cars life. This is not my mates sisters opinion, this is gathered information by relevant and bonifide agencies.
Doesnt mean I love toyota, or want one, Im happy with my AU Ute, Mk1 escort and yes AWD suzuki swift, But Owning a Ford and being a member on here has not blinded me to what I consider relevant facts, something so obvious with many posters in my short time here at Ford forums.
JP

[big_landau]

im not sure when toyoda (changed there name to toyota) started but for the years they have been in the market they havnt been on top for that long compared to alot of car makes.i think they need to be on top for another 20 years to start catching the results other makes have achieved.

[sk8xr8]

Thats true, but compared to manufacturers by the likes of GM who held top spot for 20 odd years, Toyota dosnt have dozens of subsidiary companies to help the figures.

[big_landau]

do you own a new toyota?perhaps you should try one.

[sk8xr8]

Originally Posted by big_landau

do you own a new toyota?perhaps you should try one.

Is that aimed at me?

[DJM83]

Originally Posted by big_landau

do you own a new toyota?perhaps you should try one.

No i dont, i own a 3 year old Focus but my G/F preferred a new corolla over the competition. Cant say i disagree with her choice, i like it aswell apart from the fact its slow, but its enough for her.

[NickyN]

http://www.cnbc.com/id/100411168/Toy..._Crown_From_GM

Not adding fuel to anyone's fire, but Toyota is back on top after all the negative publicity it had in 2011 & 2012. You have to admit, it didn't take that long. And this is based on world wide sales.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by sk8xr8

Thats true, but compared to manufacturers by the likes of GM who held top spot for 20 odd years, Toyota dosnt have dozens of subsidiary companies to help the figures.

What, like Lexus, Scion, Diahatsu, Hino, Fuji Heavy Industries (Subaru) etc.

Just about as many as GM.

[jamies]

[QUOTE=Bossxr8;4619590]What, like Lexus, Scion, Diahatsu, Hino, Fuji Heavy Industries (Subaru) etc.

All seperate identities mate..

[GREGL]

The point some people are tryng to make is that Toyotas are not a bad car, yes they are bland , boring , and certainly not a enthusiasts choice. However they have a rep for being well built with good factory backup .
What gets my nose out of joint is some people have no hesistation in finding fault (factual or not) when in reality there no worse than other manufacturers , at least they still build in australia . I am not a Toyota lover ( they don't have anything that suits us and too pricey ) . Each to their own I reckon .
Moneypits ? umm ask anyone that owns a car . If it isn't a moneypit to them they are either well heeled or if they aren't it may well be for the next owner !

[flappist]

The topic is an announced Toyota recall.

Any more childish posts about Toyota owners are off topic and will attract a warning.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by jamies

All seperate identities mate..

What does that matter, they are still all subsidieries of Toyota, no different from Cadillac, GMC, Opal etc with GM.

[basteve]

As the topic states, "Toyota recall. Another!" There have been lots of recalls for many Toyota's Klugas, Corolla, Prius and even Lexan. They appear in papers that i think Toyota diehards turn a blind eye. Our Toyota has many problems with it and my daughter wants to get rid of it. That's good because some Toyota diehard with reliability as a number one white wash can have it, LOL and good luck to you! As for build quality the roof lining is of poor manufacturing. The foam was glued to a cardboard sort of material and then the material lining is glued to the thin foam . The foam had become a sort of sticky gunk of powder that needed to be scrubbed back to remove the mess. The effort to remove the entire roof lining was a pain.

Poor girl she drove around with the headlining on her head like some sort of roof air bag. What a crappy job Toyota has done. It became really a annoying hazard until I fixed it. The toyota mechanic said to us we can staple it up to the cardboard lining WTF. Staples really?

Oh what a feeling Toyota! I guess it would be a great feeling if your a bald guy with the lining rubbing your head. Lol Does anyone want to buy a real good Toyota corolla?


http://www.recalls.gov.au/content/in.../itemId/952857

[SumoDog68]

Originally Posted by basteve

As the topic states, "Toyota recall. Another!" There have been lots of recalls for many Toyota's Klugas, Corolla, Prius and even Lexan. They appear in papers that i think Toyota diehards turn a blind eye. Our Toyota has many problems with it and my daughter wants to get rid of it. That's good because some Toyota diehard with reliability as a number one white wash can have it, LOL and good luck to you! As for build quality the roof lining is of poor manufacturing. The foam was glued to a cardboard sort of material and then the material lining is glued to the thin foam . The foam had become a sort of sticky gunk of powder that needed to be scrubbed back to remove the mess. The effort to remove the entire roof lining was a pain.

Poor girl she drove around with the headlining on her head like some sort of roof air bag. What a crappy job Toyota has done. It became really a annoying hazard until I fixed it. The toyota mechanic said to us we can staple it up to the cardboard lining WTF. Staples really?

Oh what a feeling Toyota! I guess it would be a great feeling if your a bald guy with the lining rubbing your head. Lol Does anyone want to buy a real good Toyota corolla?


http://www.recalls.gov.au/content/in.../itemId/952857

I drive a "Lexan" (haha) and it is a great car . Had a Camry and a Hilux as company cars . Only ever needed servicing . Not any companies fan as such but buy whatever suits at the time. Toyota makes great cars and their sales certainly prove it.

[flooded one]

There is nothing wrong with Toyotas. yes they can be boring and bland but they do the job well. that's the appeal of them. hence why cars like. Corolla, Camry, Hilux and Landcruiser sell very well. If I had a need for a four wheel drive. Landcruiser would be up there in my choices

[ryeman]

And when Toyota start using double-clutch gearboxes (aisin warner) I'll take that technology seriously.
Toyota is the reliability flag even if it's considered boring.

[Orangejuicepony]

Originally Posted by ryeman

And when Toyota start using double-clutch gearboxes (aisin warner) I'll take that technology seriously.
Toyota is the reliability flag even if it's considered boring.

I'll second that, we have a small fleet of Toyotas and have had no trouble with them, they have never let us down, not that it isn't possible, but they just have been great. We will put 75,000kms on the luxes every year and apart from consumables and the one clutch cylinder, they have been remarkably reliable.

Just bought out first 79 V8 dual cab, dear but we'll see if these are even better, they certainly look like they will be.

Having said that Nissan D22s have given us no trouble either, we still one left at nearly 400,000kms and no trouble apart from a rebuilt front end at 350,000kms - no ones complaining though.

As for Fords? Had one BA sedan, lasted two years, had 7 warranty repairs, most of which caused the car to break down, and sold it for 10K at three years old, was $36K new... never again.