HSV will live on after Holden

[Syndrome]

Originally Posted by Mighty Reds

Hyundai Special Vehicles.

Or Lada Samara like Brock did one time.

[rancidpunx]

So will they be rebranded "CSV" when they drop Holden and bring in Chevy? lol And we think the blue team take us Ford fans for a ride.

[99AUXR]

Good on them if they can make it work.

But the commodore is the only thing keeping HSV alive IMO. . . and the fact they only used 200 people to stick them together.

. . . Meanwhile in the blue camp, really excited about our future.

[Gadgetman]

Originally Posted by rancidpunx

So will they be rebranded "CSV" when they drop Holden and bring in Chevy? lol And we think the blue team take us Ford fans for a ride.

they will not last 5 mins after the last commodore rolls down the line.

[jamies]

The company that do HSV's is called fusion automotive... They have just started importing wait for it.... TA TA utes out of India.

[ZA-289]

Ttsv?

[ltd]

Originally Posted by rancidpunx

So will they be rebranded "CSV" when they drop Holden and bring in Chevy? lol And we think the blue team take us Ford fans for a ride.

No they can't.
Microsoft corporation owns the trademark on "CSV", for "Comma Separated Values" part of their Microsoft Excel format.
No one can register or use the name.

See here: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/legal...perty/Patents/

Whilst they might use "Chevrolet Special Vehicles", the abbreviation CSV would be in breach of Microsofts patent and therefore actionable.

[Dave R]

Originally Posted by ltd

No they can't.
Microsoft corporation owns the trademark on "CSV", for "Comma Separated Values" part of their Microsoft Excel format.
No one can register or use the name.

See here: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/legal...perty/Patents/

Whilst they might use "Chevrolet Special Vehicles", the abbreviation CSV would be in breach of Microsofts patent and therefore actionable.

They are in different industries and are not likely to be confused by a reasonable person, therefore it would not be actionable by Microsoft.

Chevrolet have been using the CSV name in the middle east since 2007.

[jamies]

Originally Posted by Adrenaline

They are in different industries and are not likely to be confused by a reasonable person, therefore it would not be actionable by Microsoft.

Chevrolet have been using the CSV name in the middle east since 2007.

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Remember in the 90's there was CSV "Corsa special Vehicles" started by Troy Corsa. He did a limited run of commodores.

[Nikked]

What is GM dumped the Holden name here, and HSV and Elfin partnered up to make Elfins badged as toranas or something...?


#fantasyworld

[Bossxr8]

Elfin is finished isn't it?

Last time I checked they had not built any cars for months due to no demand, and haven't heard anything from them since. You can pretty much write them off.

If HSV think they can somehow survive on tiny numbers of rubbish cars like Cruzes, Barinas, Malibus and the like they are kidding themselves. Holdens future line up is going to be absolute junk with whatever RHD cars they have at their disposal, cause the only decent things they have like Vettes, Camaros and Caddies more than likely won't be made in RHD, so it leaves a bunch of Korean junk.

[1TUFFUTE]

Originally Posted by Motorbreath310

They don't do a bad job for a company of 200 staff.

Not bad for a bolt on company. At least we rebuilt 70% of our fpvs engines and worked on engines built and designed here. Hsv deffinately put a good package together tho.

I'd love to see hsv stay with 'proper' modified cars like we get now.
I'd like to see ford do this even more. Imagine factory tweaked mustangs, fiesta,focuses and so on. Would LOVE to see this.

Can't trust Holden to do it right tho, that you can take to the bank.....

[Rodge]

What's too stop HSV from stockpiling several years worth of the last batch of 2017 Commorores to work with and keep their production going long after Holden have stopped production ? Fact is the GTS is selling well, why wouldn't they want to keep that party rocking for as long as they could ? After that who knows...maybe RHD CTS-V with Australian tuned suspension ?

[1TUFFUTE]

Originally Posted by Rodge

What's too stop HSV from stockpiling several years worth of the last batch of 2017 Commorores to work with and keep their production going long after Holden have stopped production ? Fact is the GTS is selling well, why wouldn't they want to keep that party rocking for as long as they could ? After that who knows...maybe RHD CTS-V with Australian tuned suspension ?

But it's doing well because it just been released......all these GM problems and bad news, plus there's much water to go under the bridge yet....mean I doubt they have a clue which way they will go really.
Let's be honest.....they don't know what's going on. Probably just trying to calm the storm a tad with some good news now and then!

[Skramit]

Any reason an HSV Astra couldn't make a comeback? Opel might have gone but surely GM can still send Astras to Aus as Holdens via HSV tuning and body work.

FoST and FiST are popular enough here, why can't GM target the hot hatch market with HSV doing up something small? If it's done properly and at the right price it could be popular.

*shrug*

[Nikked]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Elfin is finished isn't it?

Last time I checked they had not built any cars for months due to no demand, and haven't heard anything from them since. You can pretty much write them off.

Not surprised...


Is there any boutique Australian car manufactures anymore?

[Rodge]

Originally Posted by 1TUFFUTE

But it's doing well because it just been released......all these GM problems and bad news, plus there's much water to go under the bridge yet....mean I doubt they have a clue which way they will go really.
Let's be honest.....they don't know what's going on. Probably just trying to calm the storm a tad with some good news now and then!

AKA Corporate Spin and public relations B.S.

At least they're trying mate. Ford waving the white surrender flag so early on in regard to FPV is a sad and rather limp wristed effort IMO.

[vztrt]

Originally Posted by Bill M

If HSV can make a case with Camaro then good on them!
At least not all is terminal.
Good luck HSV.

Hopefully they can fix the ride on these cars if they do bring it in.....that and the exhaust sound.

[fgpsi]

HSV shortlisting imports for post-Commodore era

HSV is already eyeing a number of vehicles for its 2018 showroom once production of the Holden Commodore ceases at the end of 2017.

HSV managing director Phil Harding this week vowed the Melbourne-based manufacturer would continue producing high-performance vehicles after the last locally made Holden rolled off the line at Elizabeth, despite HSV’s current line-up comprising only Australian-made Commodore-based products.

“Our business at Clayton has been providing excitement to the auto industry for the last 26 years and I don’t plan to stop,” Harding said.

“Our product offering has been evolving constantly and will continue to do so. Change is not new for our business and we will continue to adapt, successfully, to a new operating environment”, added Harding.

“Yeah, we’ve got our eye on a few things,” Jackson admitted.

“We clearly won’t be indicating what they are… But we’ve got some scenarios we’re pretty positive towards, and I guess one of the good things is we’ve got some time to get there.”

Asked how important it was for HSVs to be based on Australian-made cars, Jackson responded honestly, “I don’t know”.

“It’s a good question… I guess we’ll find out, won’t we.

“From our perspective there will still be a fair amount of local content in it. I think the fundamental point of if you’re making [cars] in a country the perception is hopefully you’re building it for the conditions and the market that you’re operating within, and I think that will obviously still be a key part of what we’re doing.

“It’s the Australian market we will be designing and developing a car for, and we’ll be doing all those nuances in terms of how they like it to handle and they like it to drive, the right styling flavour and all that sort of stuff.

“At the end of the day our job is to put a high-performance car on the road. If that’s built here or somewhere else that’s not necessarily the driving factor, it’s, ‘can we build a good car?’ That’s the determining factor, and we’re pretty confident that we can get a pretty good car on the road in four years’ time, so that’s what we’re working towards.”

Jackson said the principles of “bold design, high performance and technology” were defining principles of a “proper HSV” and would remain fundamental to the brand going forward.

Jackson would not speculate on how the shift from Commodore-based cars to HSVs based on imports would affect the brand’s sales, but said the car maker was optimistic about its future.

“It’s going to come down to how good the car is, that’s our view,” Jackson said.

“If the car’s good enough, we’ll sell more. If it’s not good enough, we won’t sell as many. That’s our challenge, to make a great car.

“We thrive on doing things that other people think we can’t, so that’s an exciting challenge and absolutely we see opportunity in it.”

Jackson also said the company was “not anticipating significant changes” to its Clayton workforce, which currently numbers around 200, when Holden closes its factories in 2017.

HSV’s most recent import-based model was the VXR – a turbocharged 177kW 2.0-litre hot-hatch based on the previous-generation Opel Astra OPC – which it sold in small numbers between 2006 and 2009.

http://www.caradvice.com.au/264311/h...commodore-era/

[Bucknaked]

Have to change their name to GMSV. Camro's aren't a Holden