Tesla workers shared ‘intimate’ car camera images, ex-employees allege: ‘Massive invasion of privacy’

[Franco Cozzo]

Uh oh, I guess this one could always be an issue as car manufacturers implement these technologies into their cars - who owns the footage recorded by the cameras and where are they stored?

Tesla workers shared ‘intimate’ car camera images, ex-employees allege: ‘Massive invasion of privacy’

Cameras affixed on cars sent videos of customers and their property to the EV maker’s offices and spread ‘like wildfire’

Tesla assures its millions of electric car owners that their privacy “is and will always be enormously important to us”. The cameras it builds into vehicles to assist driving, it notes on its website, are “designed from the ground up to protect your privacy”.

But between 2019 and 2022, groups of Tesla employees privately shared via an internal messaging system sometimes highly invasive videos and images recorded by customers’ car cameras, according to interviews by Reuters with nine former employees.

Some of the recordings caught Tesla customers in embarrassing situations. One ex-employee described a video of a man approaching a vehicle completely naked.

Also shared: crashes and road-rage incidents. One crash video in 2021 showed a Tesla driving at high speed in a residential area hitting a child riding a bike, according to another ex-employee. The child flew in one direction, the bike in another. The video spread around a Tesla office in San Mateo, California, via private one-on-one chats, “like wildfire”, the ex-employee said.

I saw some scandalous stuff sometimes - scenes of intimacy, a lot of stuff that I wouldn’t want anybody to see about my life - Former Tesla employee

https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...-images-shared

I think given this day and age, this might become a problem we see more of.

[T3rminator]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Uh oh, I guess this one could always be an issue as car manufacturers implement these technologies into their cars - who owns the footage recorded by the cameras and where are they stored?



https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...-images-shared

I think given this day and age, this might become a problem we see more of.

Pffff no sample photos in the article?

[Bossxr8]

The question is why do the employees even have access to it?

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

The question is why do the employees even have access to it?

This ^^^^

Isn’t this just another example of personal data being manipulated and used inappropriately?

[prktkljokr]

OMG, a data breach, and here I was thinking all my data was safe.

Yawn, nothing new, when you buy this tech you are pretty much agreeing to your data being collected and used, what's the big shock?

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by prktkljokr

OMG, a data breach, and here I was thinking all my data was safe.

Yawn, nothing new, when you buy this tech you are pretty much agreeing to your data being collected and used, what's the big shock?

What about when you go to the doctors, do they share your medical history amongst themselves and laugh? Or your Xrays where they pass them around social media and they all laugh about the size of your cock?

There's collecting data and then there's sloppy stuff like this, I don't think anyone consents to having their camera footage shared amongst staff. This is like if you had CCTV cameras installed on your house and then the company was storing the data and then all the staff were sharing the recordings of you in your lounge room.

There's data breaches where an organised crime group gets hold of something they shouldn't, and then there's this sort of junk with internal staff doing things they know they shouldn't be - this one is worse I reckon because its intentional.

[prktkljokr]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

What about when you go to the doctors, do they share your medical history amongst themselves and laugh? Or your Xrays where they pass them around social media and they all laugh about the size of your cock?

I'm sure they probably have laughed at the size of my cock, and I already know my medical history is shared, I do remember giving consent, they may look at my history and pass it around and laugh, they probably just haven't been caught yet, I don't really care, there is nothing there that I would not tell you if you asked.

If your that worried about these companies sharing your data and anything else, don't use a computer, don't post on a forum, don't use a mobile phone, pretty much don't use anything smart that uses power to work, don't use the tech that's in your new car, as you will either knowingly or unknowingly be giving them what they are after anyway.

This sort of thing has been going on for years, I remember a cop mate that used to send me pictures that I would say he was not supposed to send out 30 years ago, ( he is dead now, so he wont get into trouble for it now ), but some of the stuff was horrific, im sure I was not the only one who saw it.

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by prktkljokr

I'm sure they probably have laughed at the size of my cock, and I already know my medical history is shared, I do remember giving consent, they may look at my history and pass it around and laugh, they probably just haven't been caught yet, I don't really care, there is nothing there that I would not tell you if you asked.

If your that worried about these companies sharing your data and anything else, don't use a computer, don't post on a forum, don't use a mobile phone, pretty much don't use anything smart that uses power to work, don't use the tech that's in your new car, as you will either knowingly or unknowingly be giving them what they are after anyway.

This sort of thing has been going on for years, I remember a cop mate that used to send me pictures that I would say he was not supposed to send out 30 years ago, ( he is dead now, so he wont get into trouble for it now ), but some of the stuff was horrific, im sure I was not the only one who saw it.

I work for a company that would make the internal issue regarding the OP situation a sackable offence, there would be zero tolerance for personal data being flipped around internally.

Some companies obviously don’t believe it is an issue, or their employees think it’s funny to look through personal information and have a laugh.

Maybe Tesla needs to look at their data management, or maybe it’s just a cultural thing.

[Rallye Sport]

Meh, going by some of the things I've seen when looking down from the window of a truck people don't seem to be too phased by public nudity, self gratification, sex acts and much, much more I won't mention. All whist driving too

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by Rallye Sport

Meh, going by some of the things I've seen when looking down from the window of a truck people don't seem to be too phased by public nudity, self gratification, sex acts and much, much more I won't mention. All whist driving too

I want to see pictures of your RS2000, but I’d rather an RS1800 with a BDG

[CyberWasp]

Everyone is outraged at stuff like this, then proceed keep their phone or Alexa type device in their bedrooms. I wonder what sort of activity gets picked up by those devices.

[hayseed]

Originally Posted by Rallye Sport

Meh, going by some of the things I've seen when looking down from the window of a truck people don't seem to be too phased by public nudity, self gratification, sex acts and much, much more I won't mention. All whist driving too

^^^^^^^^Plus One to this^^^^^^^^^

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by CyberWasp

Everyone is outraged at stuff like this, then proceed keep their phone or Alexa type device in their bedrooms. I wonder what sort of activity gets picked up by those devices.

Understand this, do we all DGAF ?

Or, if we find out some flog in China, or someone in Seattle or California is laughing at your “Willy”, find it a bit weird and think it’s inappropriate ?

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by prktkljokr

I'm sure they probably have laughed at the size of my cock, and I already know my medical history is shared, I do remember giving consent, they may look at my history and pass it around and laugh, they probably just haven't been caught yet, I don't really care, there is nothing there that I would not tell you if you asked.

If your that worried about these companies sharing your data and anything else, don't use a computer, don't post on a forum, don't use a mobile phone, pretty much don't use anything smart that uses power to work, don't use the tech that's in your new car, as you will either knowingly or unknowingly be giving them what they are after anyway.

This sort of thing has been going on for years, I remember a cop mate that used to send me pictures that I would say he was not supposed to send out 30 years ago, ( he is dead now, so he wont get into trouble for it now ), but some of the stuff was horrific, im sure I was not the only one who saw it.

And this complacent attitude is why they don’t gaf. Why are people so spineless and willing to be taken advantage of these days?

It’s your data, your images, your privacy. Not anyone elses.

[prktkljokr]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

And this complacent attitude is why they don’t gaf. Why are people so spineless and willing to be taken advantage of these days?

It’s your data, your images, your privacy. Not anyone elses.

For me personally, if someone decides to share something about me and have a giggle, go ahead, its not going to affect my life that's for sure, people need to get over it, people talk behind your back, probably even have private conversations about your opinion on this very forum, who cares, little minds with nothing better to do in my opinion.

If you want private, turn the power off and don't talk to anyone, we are in a age where we hand over way too much info as it is and rely on computers to keep stuff safe in a cloud, gimme a break, you want to stay private, don't press submit

[Adamz Ghia]

Originally Posted by prktkljokr

For me personally, if someone decides to share something about me and have a giggle, go ahead, its not going to affect my life that's for sure, people need to get over it, people talk behind your back, probably even have private conversations about your opinion on this very forum, who cares, little minds with nothing better to do in my opinion.

If you want private, turn the power off and don't talk to anyone, we are in a age where we hand over way too much info as it is and rely on computers to keep stuff safe in a cloud, gimme a break, you want to stay private, don't press submit

You’re looking at the very, very small picture. We shouldn’t demand better data protection just because people might laugh at us. There is enough data out there on all of us that can be used to completely take over our lives. It’s happened to people before, and it can take months, even years to recover from this.

And good luck to you navigating through life completely offline.

[prktkljokr]

More data protection?, I'm sure if someone can come up with a more secure way of keeping data, a hacker will find a way to get to it in no time, I'm sure it s been a cat and mouse game for many years.

Unfortunately the chances of personal details pictures and data being used against you is part of every day life, its not right but it happens, the only thing to slow it is refusing to give these companies details they don't really need and limit the access to data they have no need to be collecting, I can not see a reason I have to give Harvey Normans my details when I buy a new fridge?, or why I have to put details like my marital status, where I was born etc when I buy a new phone or have my car connect to the manufacturer to share data.

When I sign up for anything online, if they insist they will get a different spelling of my name, details that are made up and a generic email address I use for this specific thing that gives them nothing ( I will use my real details for anything government related only because you have to ).

Why do they need all this information?, it definitely not to benefit you, its for them, its to profile you, are you a frequent shopper, do you buy big ticket items, what should we put in our next catalogue, shall we email the new Samsung phone release date to you blagh, blagh, blagh .

I just don't think we should sweat the petty stuff, there is way more to worry about than a few pictures, or the size of my cock being laughed at .

Most of these people that have their details used against them are too free with their information making them a easy target, I'm sure most people on this forum have given away way more information with the tech in their pocket than a car that takes pictures of you ever will.

Breaches like this are going to happen, sure it should not happen, but it does and more widespread than just Tesla, I cant see it being that damaging to a person if they pass around a few pics and have a laugh, I'm sure security cameras around the world have been capturing images like this for years, and if you do a google, you will find plenty, I would be more worried about the details they have on record when you purchased the car.

Even just being on this forum just google your username, you will be surprised at the information someone can glean from it alone, some people don't give away much or have usernames that conflict with others, but some you can get all the way to locations pictures of them, their address and phone numbers in minutes.

I have used the internet before to track someone down, its not real hard, once you know their real name the rest is easy, it just shows how free people are with their information without knowing it.

[Franco Cozzo]

My issue is that there's no punishment for corporates who are lax with customer data, Optus, Medibank, Latitude Financial, now Tasmanian Department of Education have all suffered customer data breaches, things where Optus customers needed to get new drivers licences because now criminals have enough information to start identity theft and get credit cards in their names et al.

Australian businesses have been getting targeted last year and this year as organized crime knows our business doesn't take IT issues seriously nor is there legislation or limitations on businesses storing your personal information or how they protect it.

It encourages bad behavior by business, they don't want to invest in IT to protect it, and they want to keep all your information as well with no limits - laughing at my cock isn't a huge deal.

Hell, we didn't want to spend the money on a payment gateway for our ERP at work so when you paid by card over the phone we'd just write down your card details in our notepads - we got robbed twice and if they taken our notepads they'd have hundreds of credit card numbers.

By the time I left last year I had 10+ notepads chock full of customer credit card numbers that I just left in my desk drawers.

[hayseed]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

My issue is that there's no punishment for corporates who are lax with customer data, Optus, Medibank, Latitude Financial, now Tasmanian Department of Education have all suffered customer data breaches, things where Optus customers needed to get new drivers licences because now criminals have enough information to start identity theft and get credit cards in their names et al.

Australian businesses have been getting targeted last year and this year as organized crime knows our business doesn't take IT issues seriously nor is there legislation or limitations on businesses storing your personal information or how they protect it.

It encourages bad behavior by business, they don't want to invest in IT to protect it, and they want to keep all your information as well with no limits - laughing at my cock isn't a huge deal.

Hell, we didn't want to spend the money on a payment gateway for our ERP at work so when you paid by card over the phone we'd just write down your card details in our notepads - we got robbed twice and if they taken our notepads they'd have hundreds of credit card numbers.

By the time I left last year I had 10+ notepads chock full of customer credit card numbers that I just left in my desk drawers.

Why keep the CC Numbers..??
The moment the transaction was Approved, the page of the notebook should've went through the Shredder..!!

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by hayseed

Why keep the CC Numbers..??
The moment the transaction was Approved, the page of the notebook should've went through the Shredder..!!

I got other stuff in that notebook too that I don't want going through the shredder, but yep, I shouldn't have been keeping that information at all - however there's no policy around it and it wasn't enforced so its a whole lot of not my problem

Get a payment gateway so customers can make CC payments without talking to us over the phone, its an easy one to fix, it also saves the sales team from having to manage excel spreadsheets with CC payments and invoice numbers for the accounts team.

[jpd80]

If it’s that easy to get the silly unimportant stuff, how hard is it to proceed to the next level
and view bank/credit cards, track your sales history, what stores you visit…….

People are way too trusting with so called experts handling their data

[T3rminator]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

My issue is that there's no punishment for corporates who are lax with customer data, Optus, Medibank, Latitude Financial, now Tasmanian Department of Education have all suffered customer data breaches, things where Optus customers needed to get new drivers licences because now criminals have enough information to start identity theft and get credit cards in their names et al.

Australian businesses have been getting targeted last year and this year as organized crime knows our business doesn't take IT issues seriously nor is there legislation or limitations on businesses storing your personal information or how they protect it.

It encourages bad behavior by business, they don't want to invest in IT to protect it, and they want to keep all your information as well with no limits - laughing at my cock isn't a huge deal.

Careless and stupid people keeps me in a job

Interesting thing is, there are some bits of your personal info, usually the sensitive ones, that never changes. So if you got hacked once, and the data is on the web, then it makes "no difference" if you have been hacked a thousand times, the data is already in the public forever.