![]() |
|
Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums forum. You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and inserts advertising. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features without post based advertising banners. Registration is simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today! If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us. Please Note: All new registrations go through a manual approval queue to keep spammers out. This is checked twice each day so there will be a delay before your registration is activated. |
|
The Pub For General Automotive Related Talk |
![]() |
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
![]() |
#91 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 5,045
|
|
||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#92 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Brisbane (Southside)
Posts: 1,149
|
Quote:
__________________
2008 FG XR6 Turbo ZF In Sensation - Gone, but not Forgotten.... Hers: 2024 Ford Everest Platinum in Equinox Bronze His Daily: 2020 (MY21) Kia Sorento GT-Line in Mineral Blue His Weekender: 2017 Commodore SSV Redline manual in Light My Fire Orange |
|||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
2 users like this post: |
![]() |
#93 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Perth
Posts: 826
|
Quote:
I agree. I'm self employed and I claim most stuff for my Ranger but I would be happy to have GPS logged data for tax use. While we are on a tangent, my mate has worked at Telstra since 1999, he gets a vehicle to take home but zero personal use - no exceptions. Start it when you log on in the morning and turn it off when you log out in the arvo. At the start of employment they had to declare where the vehicle was being parked at night. Around 2010ish they brought in GPS tracking to all vehicles, around 30% of the techs quit saying invasion of privacy or similar. I can't work that one out considering they are 100% work use only.... |
||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#94 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: nz
Posts: 1,846
|
Quote:
You can do the same with couriers ,tradie utes etc
__________________
Fgx xr8 winter white manual, gone but not forgotten 22 mitsubishi outlander XLS PHEV Au11 fairmont Ghia ported gt40p heads ,comp springs and locks Xe 264 cam,custom intake,pacemaker tri y headers 524nm torque 19 Triton GSXR manual |
|||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
This user likes this post: |
![]() |
#95 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: In Front of a Monitor
Posts: 1,640
|
Large Anomalies would show up like a beacon in the ATO when processing peoples Tax Returns.
People that claim way above the average would be audited in no time. With the amount of Data being crunched I would not think you could cheat the system too far. I am sure we all know someone who claims excessively at tax time, and has been audited. The system does its thing. Yes the technology would be there to have your Etag for example, GPS Track you and record all your driving for the ATO but do we really want to go there?
__________________
2004 Mercury Silver Falcon XR6T - 5 Speed 2017 Platinum White Mustang GT - 6 Speed 2022 Blue Thai-Special for Daily Duties - Auto |
||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
This user likes this post: |
![]() |
#96 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: nz
Posts: 1,846
|
Quote:
__________________
Fgx xr8 winter white manual, gone but not forgotten 22 mitsubishi outlander XLS PHEV Au11 fairmont Ghia ported gt40p heads ,comp springs and locks Xe 264 cam,custom intake,pacemaker tri y headers 524nm torque 19 Triton GSXR manual |
|||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
This user likes this post: |
![]() |
#97 | ||
Rob
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Woodcroft S.A.
Posts: 21,504
|
These threads used to be about 'death of the falcon' until the falcon actually did die.
Then interest in the threads dwindled for a few years until the next 'bandwagon' came along. Now every thread eventually turns to 'Thailand special tax incentives' with the same members getting 'outraged' each month. Apparently the only people buying these cars are business owners gaming the system. Apparently we'd all be driving small manual cars if 'incentives' were taken away. Here's a thought. If incentives got removed, would the sales change or would the prices of new cars change. Pretty sure it doesn't cost $60k to build a ute.
__________________
UA2 TREND 4WD BI TURBO |
||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
4 users like this post: |
![]() |
#98 | |||
Cabover nut
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Onsite Eastcoast
Posts: 10,827
|
Quote:
__________________
heritagestonemason.com/Fordlouisvillerestoration In order that the labour of centuries past may not be in vain during the centuries to come...... D. Diderot 1752
|
|||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#99 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 11,277
|
Quote:
I remember a few years ago when PX2 (?) Wildtrak came out and Ford was testing the upper limit with a $65k Ute… Today, I think you’d struggle to get a decently optioned up XLT crew cab for that amount…. Shortages in the pandemic didn’t help but I have to wonder, now that Ford has a lot more boat delivery capacity, are we seeing a new higher sales level or one that’s still reflecting a ton of back orders…..are we expecting to see an easing of deliveries once the backlog ends? Or dose the new capacity suggest that more buyers will go order Ranger /Everest once deliveries come down to under three months? I really don’t know. Tax incentives and surveillance is a curly question, I don’t think the government wants to change anything especially if enough swing voters are ready to punish them at the next election… |
|||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#100 | ||||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 11,277
|
Quote:
That’s simply because it couldn’t be f’ed making additional RHD models for our market, heck we can’t even get enough of the ones that Ford Europe is supposed to be supplying us. Quote:
Many people default to the proverb, “Don’t put all your eggs in one basket” I would argue that’s what Holden did and look what happened to them. No Ford Australia was right to double down on Ranger/Everest and really push them because not doing so when you have nothing else to sell is the quick road out of business. Many other Ford vehicles that would interest Australian buyers are simply not available |
||||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#101 | |||
Rob
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Woodcroft S.A.
Posts: 21,504
|
Quote:
__________________
UA2 TREND 4WD BI TURBO |
|||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
This user likes this post: |
![]() |
#102 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 885
|
Quote:
It is what GM forced on Holden ( GM HQ knows it all ). ****boxes from Korea, (young bloke doesn't want a car like what his father had ), and a fully imported German Commodore, and imported Mexican SUVs. Now, GM are running around looking for their backside in the dark, while sales slide and their EVs break down 100 yards from the dealer showroom. Bob Lutz, take bow. You done good. Mary Barra, Mark Reuss, don't take a bow, you have done ****house. |
|||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#103 | |||
Regular Member
Join Date: Nov 2020
Location: Maryborough VIC Votes for: Coalition
Posts: 450
|
Quote:
__________________
1996 XH Falcon GLi manual - Dynamic White 1998 EL Falcon Futura auto - Dynamic White 2023 SKODA Octavia RS - Moon White 1997 BMW E36 318i manual - Alpine White |
|||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#104 | |||
Thailand Specials
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Centrefold Lounge
Posts: 49,028
|
Quote:
However there's still more exemptions applicable on Thailand Specials that come into play with claiming things like family tax benefit, childcare subsidies and all that jazz - that don't apply to EVs that are FBT exempt, because Thailand Specials aren't considered 'cars'. If you buy the FBT exempt EV, rather than the FBT exempt Thailand Special you cause issues claiming other entitlements. Make it a level playing field between EV's and Thailand Specials and you'd see the market shift accordingly, just like we did towards Thailand Specials when all the tax advantages started happening. There's no 'outrage' here, drive what you want, but the market is being influenced by government policy and you can't deny it, I've been harping on about it for years, now the media is picking up on it, and there's pressure on the government to promote environmentally friendly options instead of diesel utes from Thailand. The political party running the show is massively hemorrhaging votes from the largest voting demographic in the country to other political parties because their lack of 'green credentials', there's also a loosely aligned group of rich white women in a coalition who are in there solely on environmental issues that were bankrolled by a billionaire who harps on about the environment constantly - if you don't think both of these issues in Canberra is going to effect subsidies on diesel utes thats going to cause a change in customers buying habits, you've got rocks in your head. You wont be having the sales discussion about the top three market movers without talking about Canberra's influence in the market and if you do, its disinformation - end of story. Last edited by Franco Cozzo; 07-01-2024 at 02:49 PM. |
|||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#105 | |||
Regular Member
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 456
|
Quote:
__________________
Never argue with an idiot, they will bring you down to their level and beat with experience every time. |
|||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
This user likes this post: |
![]() |
#106 | |||
Thailand Specials
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Centrefold Lounge
Posts: 49,028
|
Quote:
|
|||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#107 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 11,277
|
Quote:
|
|||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#108 | |||
Rob
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Woodcroft S.A.
Posts: 21,504
|
Quote:
Your argument is based on vehicle pricing staying the same if incentives were removed or changed. History shows that any rebates on any product affect the product price, and when those rebates end, the product price comes back down. LPG conversions, rainwater tanks, solar panels.. Etcetc. Rather than look at sales of utes prior to incentives, look at the pricing structure. Remove incentives and a lot less people will pay $60-80k for a ute. Chances are magically ute prices would also fall. I just don't buy the notion that ute sales would become obsolete like some are inferring.
__________________
UA2 TREND 4WD BI TURBO |
|||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#109 | ||
If it ain't broke........
![]() Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
Posts: 18,532
|
__________________
Visitors welcome Relatives by appointment only |
||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
This user likes this post: |
![]() |
#110 | |||
Cabover nut
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Onsite Eastcoast
Posts: 10,827
|
Quote:
__________________
heritagestonemason.com/Fordlouisvillerestoration In order that the labour of centuries past may not be in vain during the centuries to come...... D. Diderot 1752
|
|||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#111 | ||||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Melb.
Posts: 4,439
|
Quote:
Error in that article about loading zone use, you can't park in a loading zone in Victoria using the spot as short term parking even if driving a ute....unless... Quote:
|
||||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#112 | ||
Rob
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Woodcroft S.A.
Posts: 21,504
|
Fact checking is a thing of the past for most 'story writers' these days.
The 'big car' story is just the latest to gain traction amongst those minority groups that think they are a majority because they reside in an echo chamber.
__________________
UA2 TREND 4WD BI TURBO |
||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#113 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Geelong
Posts: 1,717
|
I don’t know that we have anything to worry about on a federal level from these people. The Libs won an election by scaring people into believing Labor was taking away their SUV’s and the weekends away. This message was one of their biggest cut through from that campaign. I doubt Albo will take this on.
State level, who knows. We have no opposition in Victoria. |
||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#114 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,350
|
|
||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
3 users like this post: |
![]() |
#115 | ||
Cabover nut
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Onsite Eastcoast
Posts: 10,827
|
Just like QLD.
__________________
heritagestonemason.com/Fordlouisvillerestoration In order that the labour of centuries past may not be in vain during the centuries to come...... D. Diderot 1752
|
||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#116 | |||
Bolt Nerd
![]() Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Ojochal, Costa Rica (Pura Vida!)
Posts: 14,616
|
Quote:
You had to be commercially registered to park in a loading zone
__________________
Current vehicles.. Yamaha Rhino UTV, SWB 4L TJ Jeep, and boring Lhd RAV4 Bionic BF F6... UPDATE: Replaced by Shiro White 370z 7A Roadster. SOLD Workhack: FG Silhouette XR50 Turbo ute (11.63@127.44mph) SOLD 2 wheels.. 2015 103ci HD Wideglide.. SOLD SOLD THE LOT, Voted with our feet and relocated to COSTA RICA for some Pura Vida! (Ex Blood Orange #023 FPV Pursuit owner ![]() |
|||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#117 | ||
Thailand Specials
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Centrefold Lounge
Posts: 49,028
|
Problem is that minority is disproportionately powerful
|
||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#118 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Melb.
Posts: 4,439
|
Quote:
![]() Our local council has gone to electronic beach parking permits so you have to register your car with the council. The parking officer has to enter in the rego plate of every parked car (or maybe scan it) to confirm the car is legally parked whereas before a 5 second peek at a windscreen sticker would indicate yay or nay...plus now some will park illegally and gamble being booked. Last edited by Dr Smith; 09-01-2024 at 05:32 PM. |
|||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
This user likes this post: |
![]() |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|