The Thailand Special Thread - New Developments/News

[smoo]

Originally Posted by prydey

Sounds like opinion to me.

What does the term highly strung mean? Is there an actual definition or is it just a label given to something when the engineering doesn't conform to existing viewpoints?

High strung, highly stressed. Pretty self explanatory isn’t it.
Don’t expect these things to be around in 20 years time with over 500k on the clock like the low stressed 100 series Land Cruiser or 5L Hilux.
What isn’t opinion NVH is through the roof on these when they’re blowing their **** out trying to pull up a hill with a load behind them. That is fact and it makes for a very average driving experience. Fortunately they have a stereo which can drown out the engine noise.

[prydey]

More opinions. There is no facts in there at all.

What about an AMG 4.0L v8? 550+kw. 900nm torque? I don't hear too many negative comments about that yet the bore and stroke sizes are very similar. Compared to older technologies it's a lot of power and torque from a much smaller capacity engine.

Where is the evidence that says a particular engine is stressed?

It seems conjecture to me due to not conforming to preset views.

[smoo]

Originally Posted by prydey

More opinions. There is no facts in there at all.

What about an AMG 4.0L v8? 550+kw. 900nm torque? I don't hear too many negative comments about that yet the bore and stroke sizes are very similar. Compared to older technologies it's a lot of power and torque from a much smaller capacity engine.

Where is the evidence that says a particular engine is stressed?

It seems conjecture to me due to not conforming to preset views.

As I said, it’s self explanatory.
Compared to say a 100 series, the bi turbo is pushing the same power and more torque through two fewer cylinders and 2.2 litres. High combustion pressure and power output spread across four smaller cylinders.

Why does Cummins offer 6.7, 9, 15 litre engines… why don’t they just hike up the 9 litre to do the job of the 15 litre?

It’s a fact. Four cylinders not used for performance are average at best. The diesels used in utes are awful and scraping the bottom of the barrel.
If you think they are good you need to sample some more vehicles.

What is the longevity of that Mercedes grenade verses a Barra or Toyota JZ/Nissan RB…

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by smoo

As I said, it’s self explanatory.
Compared to say a 100 series, the bi turbo is pushing the same power and more torque through two fewer cylinders and 2.2 litres. High combustion pressure and power output spread across four smaller cylinders.

Why does Cummins offer 6.7, 9, 15 litre engines… why don’t they just hike up the 9 litre to do the job of the 15 litre?

It’s a fact. Four cylinders not used for performance are average at best. The diesels used in utes are awful and scraping the bottom of the barrel.
If you think they are good you need to sample some more vehicles.

What is the longevity of that Mercedes grenade verses a Barra or Toyota JZ/Nissan RB…

The big issue facing diesel is emissions levels as well as required fuel economy targets for Euro 6
or it’s equivalents in overseas markets, I believe the US is even tougher on NOX emissions
for diesel vehicles that fall under CAFE (under 8,500 lb GCWR).
Ford tried the smaller 2.0 Ecoblue diesel in Ranger Everest but it was crystal clear that
most buyers already paying a premium for a Ranger/Everest would go a step further
and pay extra for the smoothness of a V6 diesel that was a descendant of the Terry’s 2.7 V6.
^^^^^^This was Ford’s best move, converting most previous 2.0 buyers to the V6
An outstanding success that the other Thai special brands simply cannot currently match…

Without starting an argument, the situation with Cummins larger truck diesels is different in that
those larger diesels are used mostly in heavy tonnage hauling or towing where the size of
the air pump (engine) determines the level of power and torque under constant load.

So if an owner of a Ute is going to do a lot of heavy towing, then those small diesels
will probably be found wanting as will the vehicle, maybe a larger Ute is required for that.
So yeah, the new Landcruiser 3.0 turbo having issues is not a good start but then,
Toyota probably asked for this problem by not trying to transition buyers earlier, it clearly
sold as many V8 Landcruisers as possible ahead of the 300’s release…..