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Old 05-05-2006, 08:28 PM   #1
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•AMD Athlon 64x2 Dual-Core 3800+ Processor
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•256MB X800 GT Graphics Card
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•6 x USB ver 2.0 ports
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I know what lengths they go to to ensure it's more than just a Ford sticker on the part. Ford doesn't throw it's name on anything for a quick buck.
06 Turbo Terri AWD 6 sp in Neo with stuff i didnt even need, side steps,15.2 inch roof mounted DVD,Pioneer $tezza,Selby 30/18mm swaybars,debunged,100 cpsi Ballistic cat,Plazmaman under battery Cai injectors 14/lb boost,ZF tuned,Xtreme's magic. :
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Old 05-05-2006, 08:30 PM   #2
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Yes but depending on the price?
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Old 05-05-2006, 08:31 PM   #3
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I would do the following.

Up the RAM to 2G
Check the response time of the LCD. 4ms would be good.
X800 GFX is old
Get XP Pro
Whats the HD brand? I trust Seagate personally.
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Old 05-05-2006, 09:15 PM   #4
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Yeah go a 7900GT, or if you cant afford it, a 7800GT (can you still buy those?)
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Old 05-05-2006, 09:19 PM   #5
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06 Turbo Terri AWD 6 sp in Neo with stuff i didnt even need, side steps,15.2 inch roof mounted DVD,Pioneer $tezza,Selby 30/18mm swaybars,debunged,100 cpsi Ballistic cat,Plazmaman under battery Cai injectors 14/lb boost,ZF tuned,Xtreme's magic. :
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Old 05-05-2006, 09:20 PM   #6
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Or X1900 if you want to go with ATi. I think nVidia has the crown at the moment but its been passed between the 2 for the past couple of years. However, nVidia has better driver support.
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Old 05-05-2006, 09:21 PM   #7
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2500 is abit dear IMO. I would say... maybe... 2100 a fair price.
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Old 05-05-2006, 09:24 PM   #8
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Add another drive and go with a raid mirror.
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Old 05-05-2006, 09:25 PM   #9
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Add another drive and go with a raid mirror.
I have another h/drive whats a raid mirror?
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06 Turbo Terri AWD 6 sp in Neo with stuff i didnt even need, side steps,15.2 inch roof mounted DVD,Pioneer $tezza,Selby 30/18mm swaybars,debunged,100 cpsi Ballistic cat,Plazmaman under battery Cai injectors 14/lb boost,ZF tuned,Xtreme's magic. :
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RAID = Redundant Array of Independent Disks.

Basically there are 2 modes.

One is where both drives have the same information. So when a drive fails you still have your data.
The other is stripping where the data is spread onto both drives. Speeds up data access and such but if one of the drives goes kaput, you lose everything.
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Old 05-05-2006, 09:33 PM   #11
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Thanx people.
So you.d say its a good strong system.
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I know what lengths they go to to ensure it's more than just a Ford sticker on the part. Ford doesn't throw it's name on anything for a quick buck.
06 Turbo Terri AWD 6 sp in Neo with stuff i didnt even need, side steps,15.2 inch roof mounted DVD,Pioneer $tezza,Selby 30/18mm swaybars,debunged,100 cpsi Ballistic cat,Plazmaman under battery Cai injectors 14/lb boost,ZF tuned,Xtreme's magic. :
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Old 05-05-2006, 09:35 PM   #12
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The system aint bad. But I'd do what I said in my earlier post.
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how do i mirror it?
just connect it and away we go?
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I know what lengths they go to to ensure it's more than just a Ford sticker on the part. Ford doesn't throw it's name on anything for a quick buck.
06 Turbo Terri AWD 6 sp in Neo with stuff i didnt even need, side steps,15.2 inch roof mounted DVD,Pioneer $tezza,Selby 30/18mm swaybars,debunged,100 cpsi Ballistic cat,Plazmaman under battery Cai injectors 14/lb boost,ZF tuned,Xtreme's magic. :
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Old 05-05-2006, 09:44 PM   #14
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The HDs have to have the same capacity. The manual will show the correct connections. I cant remember how to do it off the top of my head for a SATA. I believe the setup will also be in the BIOS if the mobo supports RAID.
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I would do the following.

Up the RAM to 2G
Check the response time of the LCD. 4ms would be good.
X800 GFX is old
Get XP Pro
Whats the HD brand? I trust Seagate personally.
  • XP Home won't utilise more then 1Gb of RAM
  • 4ms would be awsome. 12ms is good, 8ms is better.
  • X800 is old, but don't get ATI, get NVIDIA - 6600 Ultra 512Mb - play really well. The NVIDIA 7000 series is not much better then the 6000... (comparing to the replaced equiv model...)
  • XP Pro is pointless unless it's using domain logins, or your using more then 1Gb of RAM. Stay XP Home, and upgrade to Vista later this year...
  • Seagate is a better HDD brand, but 90% of ppl won't use more then 40Gb of HDD space.
•Antivirus Software - prob only a Nortons 30 day trial....
•36 Months Warranty on LCD Panel - is this return to base, or do you send it back to the manufacturer...
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The question has to be though "good for what" As a uniprocessor AMD 800Mhz Duron would be good for surfing the net, email and word processing. The quoted system would be overkill for said task.

eg: both a focus and a gt can do 100km/h on the open freeway. They do 100km/h at exactly the same speed.

However the GT can do oh so much more than the Focus can. But it all comes down to what you need it for.
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I just want it for burning and playing games...
I wont be upgrading for sometime and thought now would be a good time.
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I just want it for burning and playing games...
I wont be upgrading for sometime and thought now would be a good time.
Burning can be done by anything over 400MHz or whatever the MPC3 standard used to be.

Playing games - i guess it depends on the games.
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Burning can be done by anything over 400MHz or whatever the MPC3 standard used to be.

Playing games - i guess it depends on the games.
so a waste of $$.
I just want an ultra fast n reliable system that when im burning, it doesnt lock the whole computer up so i have to wait for it to finish
My current system is Amd Althlon XP2100+ 1gig ram, running at 1667htz
Im sick of it freezing, slowing down etc.
Had it for like 4 years now
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The motherboard you need a server mother board, something like Tyan. Also if you use a server motherboard you need ECC not DDR.
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06 Turbo Terri AWD 6 sp in Neo with stuff i didnt even need, side steps,15.2 inch roof mounted DVD,Pioneer $tezza,Selby 30/18mm swaybars,debunged,100 cpsi Ballistic cat,Plazmaman under battery Cai injectors 14/lb boost,ZF tuned,Xtreme's magic. :
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Where did this Tyan server motherboard stuff come from? Not needed unless your running two individual processors.

Your current system should be fine at playing games and burning Cd's etc. You may find that your system just has a small hardware failure such as faulty RAM. Might be better to spend $200 fixing this problem, and then buy this same specd system in 12 months for like $1500 - $2000. Save some money!
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Dell are awsome computers! I've got one my self! There've got 24/7 Tech support and have really great deals on there computer and they cheap too but u do get very good value for your money!

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•19” Ultra Slim LCD Flat Panel
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Anything AMD X2 is very good, I was reading up on a comparison about 2 months ago.
they had the Dual core from Intel, And the big heavy hitters P4's 3.8gh/z and the AMD's FX which they overclocked to 3 gh/z for a comparison, They had a AMD X2 4800. The X2 cleaned house in just about all the test done, I want one.
But now there is a X2 FX 64. With dual core it sounds fantastic 2 2.4gh/z CPU's in 1.

What OS are you running now what are some other specs on your current PC?

I bought myself a AMD Athlon XP-Mobile 2500 CPU and doubled up my ram, Maxed the speed @ 2.5gh/z, And with only 512mb ram dual channel you cant tell it's only running a G-Force 4 card.
But for $2500 you might even consider checking out ebay for some deal.
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Dell are awsome computers! I've got one my self! There've got 24/7 Tech support and have really great deals on there computer and they cheap too but u do get very good value for your money!

Cheers

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Your still better off building it yourself with the high quality parts you want. It normally ends up cheaper as well. MSY.com.au is really all you need.

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Down from $3400 they recon?
What can ya do with it?
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for 3400 I could build a monster machine that will DO ANYTHING!
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