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06-07-2006, 11:39 AM | #1 | ||
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Got my car dynoed finally today. Im pretty happy with the overall results, still need a few more hours though, and maybe bump up the boost.
Anyhow, heres what my setup is. EF Falcon running AU motor(Low K thank God). STOCK. Garret GT35/40 Turbo, with Tial Wastegate Wolf3D 60LB injectors, with a walbro 600HP pump. Does anyone know where I should go from here, to maybe reach 400?? I mean, more boost yeh, but i want the least amount of boost as possible. The tuner said at its current state, he would easily get 340 with more time. Keep in mind this was only 1.5 hrs work. It started off quite drastically as the spark plugs i was using wouldnt allow more than 6psi. Apparently Bosch super 4s are a waste of time for boosted apps. They couldnt get over 150HP with those plugs so they changed to NGks, and made a smaller gap, and that was it. Cheers.
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06-07-2006, 11:44 AM | #2 | ||
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Nice. More power from Turbo cars is always the same, increase the ability to breathe. Look at Camshaft & exhaust. Not sure what you are running at the moment but look at what is restricting the motor. Also, I've heard whispers of those Walbro pumps being fairly optimistic in terms of what they can flow. But the tuner should have told you if it was starting to run out of legs.
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06-07-2006, 11:47 AM | #3 | ||
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nice result man, i wonder what she'll pul down the 1/4, man i want turbo now lol!
anyways man enjoy
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06-07-2006, 11:48 AM | #4 | |||
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As you can see, mid range still needs a lot of work, so ill definately be going back next week. Exhaust is a 3 inch, with hi flow cat, and still on the stock AU cam so i may look at a custom grind soon.
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06-07-2006, 12:00 PM | #5 | ||
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nice result
go for a nicely ported head.
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06-07-2006, 12:04 PM | #6 | ||
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Just get a crow cam in there.
I didnt have any headwork on my AU other than valves and a cam and went 308rwkw. It was an XR head though.
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06-07-2006, 12:38 PM | #7 | ||
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It should happily sneak into the 13s yeah?
I want a boosted Falcon!!!
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06-07-2006, 01:14 PM | #9 | ||
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13's definitely... I want you to race my gf's brother in his VL... I WANT YOU TO SMASH IT and show him who's boss!!!
Willowbank, 19th of JULY!!! BE THERE!!!
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06-07-2006, 01:22 PM | #10 | ||
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Big exhaust duration and a wide LSA will get the head flowing for a boosted application.
Even a split timing cam could be a good idea. 230degExhaust 220degIntake 114LSA. Awsome result for 10PSI as well (235rwkw).
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06-07-2006, 05:12 PM | #11 | |||
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06-07-2006, 05:31 PM | #12 | ||
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what is 316 hp in kw???
oops, i just saw walkinshaws post. great result man well done
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06-07-2006, 06:41 PM | #13 | ||
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3in exhaust is probably not big enough, bigger is better on turbos.
Atleast run bigger for the first half of the exhaust, and have a dump before the diff for track days.
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06-07-2006, 06:46 PM | #14 | ||
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3" will easily be enough to support upto 300rwkw.
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06-07-2006, 06:50 PM | #15 | ||
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dam man thats heaps good congratulations.
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06-07-2006, 07:35 PM | #16 | ||
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That's a great result BOOSTEDEF. If you want more man I'll put you onto a guy that will make your head do the extra power. He's good man, he does alcohol drag cars.
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06-07-2006, 08:21 PM | #17 | ||
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it must have been a VERY fun drive home
Thats a really good output man! give them some more time to get a better tune into it and see what happens. Great stuff, you will have to take me for a ride mate, my car still isnt tuned yet :( i can't believe i have left it this long! |
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06-07-2006, 08:31 PM | #18 | |||
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turbo engines like smaller exhaust duration dont they? ah just use a wade 1004 _2: |
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06-07-2006, 09:27 PM | #19 | ||
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those power figures r givin me ideas for mi car
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06-07-2006, 09:47 PM | #20 | ||
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Good stuff. I'm getting ready to start installing my first turbo kit. Can't wait...
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06-07-2006, 10:14 PM | #21 | ||
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Nice work mate thats awesome
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07-07-2006, 12:16 AM | #22 | ||
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I was always under the impression that turbo cams had a large exhaust duration and minimal overlap (wide LSA)
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07-07-2006, 01:11 AM | #23 | ||
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im a bit concerned at the time it takes it to spool up to max boost...!! i take it you arent using a boost control of any description, by the look at that, you must just have your wastegate hose connected straight to your turbo/manifold
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07-07-2006, 07:31 AM | #24 | ||
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Fantastic result, now just make sure you make use of that power wisely.
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07-07-2006, 12:46 PM | #25 | ||
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well done mate great figure, can't wait to get my car really going!!
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I am going in next week with the wolf boost control configured to about 13psi so hopefully i might see a bit more HP and get that mid range sorted out. Quote:
It definately feels like a bloody fast car now, but still lacks the midrange tune, so im still feathering it. Quote:
Cheers guys
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07-07-2006, 07:16 PM | #27 | |||
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07-07-2006, 07:39 PM | #28 | ||
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what is your full boost? and what boost control you using?
What other factors come into spool up time?
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07-07-2006, 07:54 PM | #29 | ||
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my max boost is anywhere from 8-17psi.
using the SM4's boost control function exhaust manifold design, intake manifold, camshaft, porting, exhaust size/restriction all play a big role... i actually had big problems in getting the boost down, i certainly dont consider a 35/40 1.06 BIG for a good flowing 4l, its the very smallest turbo id recommend... heres a link to my dramas http://www.fordmods.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=30297
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07-07-2006, 08:23 PM | #30 | ||
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Yeh, well with no boost control im getting a constant 10-11psi, which was 6-7psi with the other spring.
I was thinking of using the wolfs boost control function but others have had a bit of trouble with it? It would be good to have the ability to adjust boost via the hand controller though.. What would you make of the cheapo T piece boost controllers? I might try both the wolf and the T Piece to see what happens.
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