FG X, The Last EVER Falcon - Picture & Discussion Thread

[Smoke Pursuit]

Originally Posted by HULK_I6T

Do you think ford australia would have a sense of humour.. how funny would it be at the new model launch to have the new model under a large cover. Then unveil the car to reveal an AU falcon?

then to a stunned crowd unveil the real new model.

They still have a few brand new AU's parked somewhere too!

[Bonn]

Originally Posted by HULK_I6T

Do you think ford australia would have a sense of humour.. how funny would it be at the new model launch to have the new model under a large cover. Then unveil the car to reveal an AU falcon?

then to a stunned crowd unveil the real new model.

A 'jailbar' '98 Forte' in Congo Green, with 15" wheels/hubcaps, 205 radials.

Seriously, they were a good car, but it would be a very graphic demonstration of how far our humble Falcon has come in just over 15 years.......

[Bonn]

Originally Posted by fgpsi

To be fair Chev powered SS's were always quicker than XR8

(previous car war-story alert)

3V Barra 220 BA 5.4 = HAS put away VZ SS
FG XR8 REGULARLY put away VE HSV products.

Actual field data, so don't actually agree with any part of your statement, sorry.

[NanoDuke]

Originally Posted by Bonn

Seriously, they were a good car, but it would be a very graphic demonstration of how far our humble Falcon has come in just over 15 years.......

Actually, you're on to something here.
Would be good if they lined up all the previous Falcons in line to show the evolution.

[fgpsi]

Originally Posted by Bonn

(previous car war-story alert)

3V Barra 220 BA 5.4 = HAS put away VZ SS
FG XR8 REGULARLY put away VE HSV products.

Actual field data, so don't actually agree with any part of your statement, sorry.

Must've been a lemon vz ss

[Alan D Segal]

Originally Posted by mcnews

Seriously, an FG F6 still feels faster than GT335. So your mates car has some serious problems.

Originally Posted by fgpsi

BA XR8 with a couple of mods feeling as quick as an FG F6. Now I've heard it all !

I said almost. Saying 'almost feels' is an opinion, not a representation of scientifically measured facts.

OFC a car labelled with 260kw shouldn't be as outright fast as one with 310kw. But you're talking a 17% difference in manufacturer's claimed output which might 'feel' similar.

You can't go flat out in either of them on the street for any period of time (maybe for a couple seconds up an onramp or something occasionally) so a gap of 40rwkw (less than 20%) could well be there. Still they're both bloody powerful cars when you do. That's what I was getting at.

The F6 is definitely punchier down low in the revs (6 speed helps) but when the XR8 is up high in the revs it feels almost as good.

Seriously, I think it is more a case of people having problems than the cars on this forum most of the time. I'm guilty as anyone but I'm not the only culprit either.

[amiers]

Just got back from doing the rounds of dealerships chasing trades, im a dealer, and had a long chat with a long time friend at a Ford dealership. It would appear that after the sell-out of the GT-F there is going to be a run of limited XR8's. He was told that as the XR8 has had @the same amount of years in the market as the GT, head office wants to give it a send off too.

The final runs may be in late 2015 if sales of the FH/Z are not good. so now if this is true do we wait or buy as soon as its out?

[Professor Farnsworth]

why not have both?

*South American food-related celebration*

[Bucket]

Originally Posted by Professor Farnsworth

why not have both?

*South American food-related celebration*

I guess another off topic post isn't going to hurt.........

[joeyy17]

Should rename this thread to Ford vs Holden, noone cares about Holden stick to Fords!!

[Bucket]

Originally Posted by joeyy17

Should rename this thread to Ford vs Holden, noone cares about Holden stick to Fords!!

Actually, more like "2014 Falcon Sneak Peak that's actually about anything but" ....Oh the Irony.

[Alan D Segal]

Originally Posted by joeyy17

Should rename this thread to Ford vs Holden, noone cares about Holden stick to Fords!!

No the thread is actually about Fords. It is about arguing about which one is better and how anyone with an experience or opinion that is different to the mainstream motoring journalists' opinions on them must be wrong.

[Road Games]

Oh wait

[anto]

Originally Posted by fgpsi

Must've been a lemon vz ss

Aren't they all

[Professor Farnsworth]

We were just discussing the final xr8.

Thread name changed to a more accurate title since it's not just "sneak peek" pics, it's a very broad and significant thread with many aspects to discuss.

[PTR_NITRO_FG]

so is there an actual release date? I think I read a while back 'mid 2014'

[NanoDuke]

I believe it was more like "late 2014". I'm thinking Q3/4

*Edit* from the most recently linked journo article:

FORD'S born-again XR8 Falcon will get GT power when it is revived in the facelifted Falcon range in the fourth quarter of this year, Ford sources have told GoAuto.

[PTR_NITRO_FG]

Ahhh cool....thanks for that!

[Professor Farnsworth]

oct-nov i'd guess

[joeyy17]

Originally Posted by Professor Farnsworth

We were just discussing the final xr8.

Thread name changed to a more accurate title since it's not just "sneak peek" pics, it's a very broad and significant thread with many aspects to discuss.

Just saw the name change now, this title is better

spyman said late august

[martinijosh]

Originally Posted by stevefreestyle

You don't seem to have ANY idea ! If you don't know the correct technique of driving a Ford V8 - stick to your FWD toy car.

Relax buddy, not serious... had 3 falcons myself and still have my 6t. Would love to pick up an xr8 around 2016.

Originally Posted by mcnews

Quote Martini Josh "Do you want barge handling, or a spritely fishing boat handling package"

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LOL, but the FPVs are not that bad as long as things are smooth, but yes throw in a bumpy corner entry and the front struggles. But getting on the gas past 4000rpm much can be forgiven about entry. But for some of us over-powered rear drivers are the go for jollies, we have an R56 Cooper S too, and it can be quite fun and also slides quite readily but the fun is just not the same as feeling a huge amount of power torturing rear tyres.

Sedan drivers often get pretty touchy about this sort of stuff and often default to bashing FWD drive cars. Always good for a laugh.

Guarantee they would refuse to acknowledge that an MPS would beat their stock b series around the track with no effort.

[ILLaViTaR]

geez I'll never comprehend why they always choose to ruin these new cars by designing the front end to look like a beached fish gasping for air. No sense. Maybe if I was brought up with the everyday image of gasping fish/sharks/whales/dolphins then it would work but it doesn't. Ruins the entire vehicle for me. Why do that to a 40k+ vehicle? Everything else looks pretty good on it, I'll keep my EB or maybe even chop and change my EB front end onto the FH as that would probably look better.

Not just the ford wtf are those camry lights doing on the back end of a VF Commodore.

[K93George]

Get ready for probably the worst "spy" pic of the new falcon. I was driving on Welsford street in Shepparton and I noticed the new Falcon just waiting on the side of the road! I did a quick u turn and pulled over to take a photo, but they got away! Only snapped one of it at the lights. Not a big deal I guess, we all know what it looks like with camo.

But look at those brake lights ;)

[XR Martin]

Now im not sure whether to buy an XR8 as soon as its released or wait for a possible special edition.

[NanoDuke]

Originally Posted by ILLaViTaR

geez I'll never comprehend why they always choose to ruin these new cars by designing the front end to look like a beached fish gasping for air.

Because
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[amiers]

Originally Posted by Professor Farnsworth

oct-nov i'd guess

I was told delivery's will start late sep

[HULK_I6T]

Originally Posted by Bonn

A 'jailbar' '98 Forte' in Congo Green, with 15" wheels/hubcaps, 205 radials.
......

Could you imagine the faces of those in attendance if ford revealed an au? I think they should at launch of the final falcon..

or maybe a large zip on cover that looks like an au and then they unzip it to reveal.

[martinijosh]

Originally Posted by HULK_I6T

Could you imagine the faces of those in attendance if ford revealed an au? I think they should at launch of the final falcon..

or maybe a large zip on cover that looks like an au and then they unzip it to reveal.

Seriously though, they at the reveal they need to have every major release possible from XK right up until the FH.

[ILLaViTaR]

I'd personally wait right to the end, the deals will be superior as will all the bonus packages, also owning one manufactured in 2016 would be much more special I think.

Now that may be very unpatriotic towards Ford but it works both ways, no one wants poorly build big cars which a plethora of annoying little faults, warranty disputes, and also the major ones like diffs and wheel bearings and front discs. That's why they're going bankrupt... And then I look at the last GT which seems to be in high demand (by inhibiting production in the interests of a premium price tag and not honest work that rewards the Ford battlers that have stuck it out through the subpar quality for so long). I love how the average person no longer wants a ford (or holden) as they've proven to be substandard to the competition but the Ford patriots that have always stuck by them are the ones Ford now choose to rort a demand off and slap an extra 20k on the GT finals pricetag with no other justification other than demand. Lol if that's the case why don't they just make half and sell them for double or a quarter and sell them quadruple? Or just one final GT and sell it to Gina Rinehart for 1 billion?? Merely a matter of how far back can we push the brink to suit us until it results in uproar.

They should be GIVING these loyal customers the final GT as compensation for their loyalty of putting up with head gaskets in the 90's and diffs in the 00's, the savings they made from leaving those people out of warranty with factory faults would've went into the production of this GT, so it would be more of a refund than compensation really.

The thing I can't get past is for 100k you could buy a real car (but it wouldn't be as iconic I guess). Or even an actual XY GT which is the ONLY real one that may be worth a mint in 50yrs.

edit: Sorry if the post is pessimistic, I've read a lot of things so far in regards to this GT and I honestly think it's appearing to be more of a marketing ploy than the correct goodbye everyone was hoping for. A lot of loyal people are now about to miss out for no good reason/inhibition.. and well 351kw..

[PTR_NITRO_FG]

^^^^thats my goal...to buy a 2016 (or last xr8 build date possible) and buy it off someone in 2018 who has put 10-20 thousand kms only max :P

Then flogg off the FG or possibly keep it if I cant get enough for it :P give it to the mrs as "her car" lol