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29-07-2020, 05:36 PM | #4681 | |||
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Did this include the trials for healthcare workers as a preventative measure? Do you know if the ivermectin study continued? Last edited by FPV8U; 29-07-2020 at 06:04 PM. |
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29-07-2020, 05:43 PM | #4682 | ||||
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Prove the highlighted text? Maybe get Leesa to help? |
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29-07-2020, 05:55 PM | #4683 | ||
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The Trump bashers will go to any lengths to discredit him, even to the point of misleading the public about the benefits of the drug.
Then there are the confused nutters who cite examples of well advanced Covid victims having adverse symptoms after taking the drug. Yet the essential point is always missed, take the bloody thing before you get sick, not when they are pumping all sorts of crap into you cause the options have run out. From the articles mentioned earlier, in a nut shell... "For hydroxychloroquine to have a benefit, it needs to begin before the patients begin to suffer some of the severe immune reactions that patients can have with Covid," he added." But like any investment read the prospectus, nothing is guaranteed in life. |
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29-07-2020, 06:31 PM | #4684 | |||
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I can't work out what you are trying to say. Its like you are suggesting there is some sort of conspiracy by government agencies all over the world to want to let its own people die by not giving them this miracle drug. UK are starting trials again. Maybe they'll find something that everyone else has missed. Who knows. If they find something then you can come back tell everyone you were right. |
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29-07-2020, 06:37 PM | #4685 | |||
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'Proving more deadly than the civil war' - honestly **** right off with your outright lies. |
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29-07-2020, 07:00 PM | #4686 | |||
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29-07-2020, 07:06 PM | #4687 | |||
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mnu_h4gz-O4&t=457s We are all free to make our own judgement on who the "confused nutters" are. |
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29-07-2020, 07:09 PM | #4688 | |||
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29-07-2020, 07:59 PM | #4689 | |||
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Here's another video that YouTube has been taking down: As for the ''wacko witch doctor'', well another nut job Alex Jones had been calling out Jeffrey Epstein and his Island for yonks and all the people linked to him are some of the most anti-Trump on the planet, gee, wonder why. |
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29-07-2020, 08:34 PM | #4690 | |||
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That's a video I would have loved to see.
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29-07-2020, 08:47 PM | #4692 | ||
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Because I got sidetracked and ended up at the daily mail:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...ave-homes.html Edit: In it, Rebecca Judd highlights and condemns the CHO for saying it is possible to go out to exercise when corona positive.
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29-07-2020, 10:00 PM | #4693 | |||
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The cops just need to start arresting these people who are clearly taking the ****. Ask them for id and reason for travel. They either show it or don't get and put in a divvy van. Don't stand around and listen to their BS. |
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29-07-2020, 10:07 PM | #4694 | |||
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29-07-2020, 10:23 PM | #4695 | |||
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Take a look on Youtube - heaps of 'training' videos showing you how to deal with police when they ask you questions. They follow the same song sheet: Have I done a crime? Am I under arrest? Are you detaining me? I don't have to answer you due to XYZ constitution / Legislation. I'm a sovereign citizen, I'm not driving, I'm travelling. I don't need to wind my window down more than an inch. I refuse to answer questions. The best clips are the ones where the police have had enough and yank them out of the car kicking and screaming.
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29-07-2020, 10:39 PM | #4696 | ||
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29-07-2020, 10:58 PM | #4697 | |||
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Won't be looking at it....only nutters look at youtube videos that are over an hour long. |
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29-07-2020, 11:02 PM | #4698 | ||
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The New England Journal of Medicine study on hydroxxxxx for mild to moderate cases.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2019014 "A total of 18 patients died in the hospital during the trial (5 patients assigned to receive hydroxychloroquine plus azithromycin, 7 in the hydroxychloroquine-alone group, and 6 in the control group). There were no significant between-group differences with regard to the secondary outcomes of thromboembolic complications or acute kidney injury within 15 days, either in the prespecified analyses (Table 2) or in post hoc analyses that accounted for the competing risk of death (Table S11)."
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29-07-2020, 11:14 PM | #4700 | |||
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I like this bit..... Our trial has several limitations. First, although the point estimate of effect suggests no major difference between the groups with respect to the primary outcome, the trial cannot definitively rule out either a substantial benefit of the trial drugs or a substantial harm. For the comparison between hydroxychloroquine and control, for example, our data are compatible with odds ratios as low as 0.69 and as high as 2.11. Second, the trial was not blinded. Third, despite intense efforts to maintain adherence to the assigned treatments, a lack of medications that were perceived as beneficial by clinicians and patients led to some protocol deviations. Fourth, the use of hydroxychloroquine plus azithromycin was widespread among patients hospitalized with Covid-19 in participating hospitals. The enrollment of patients with no previous use of these medications was challenging, so we decided to enroll patients provided that their previous use since the onset of symptoms was limited to 24 hours. Finally, although the median time from symptom onset to randomization was 7 days, we included patients up to 14 days after the beginning of symptoms; it is conceivable that interventions that may limit viral replication (e.g., hydroxychloroquine) may be more effective earlier in the course of the disease. |
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29-07-2020, 11:23 PM | #4701 | |||
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And if you read the label, there are side effects. At the end of the day you need to strike the risk VS reward balance with all drugs. A lot of people recover with NO drugs.
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30-07-2020, 01:39 AM | #4703 | |||
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The president of the United States said he used it and has been flogged by pussy worshipers on the ABC here in Australia...daily. I don't care about Donald Trump, but the incessant denigration by the likes of Lee Sales and all the other 97% female composition journalists at the ABC just...annoys me....all because he said he loves pussies 30 years ago.... The other 3% at the ABC are tight pants weather boys and skinny Vegan morning news readers...(may as well call them girls.) Donald Trump hasn't caught Covid-19 yet......wonder how come? (could it be some hydroxychloroquine ?) Must be annoying the crap out of the lefty ABC propaganda units. |
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30-07-2020, 06:40 AM | #4704 | |||
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Was listening to the ABC/BBC this morning and they were interviewing a US medical advisor to Trumpypoo and he categorically states there is no good or reliable study showing any benefit at all for hydroxxxxx relating to CV19. None. Period.
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It is amazing some are suggesting we should be taking an unproven drug (in this application) as a preventative measure with no proof, studies or due diligence. If that doesn't sum up how desperate Trump supporters are to blindly back him then good luck to you.
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30-07-2020, 06:56 AM | #4705 | ||
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30-07-2020, 07:13 AM | #4706 | |||
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30-07-2020, 08:49 AM | #4708 | |||
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30-07-2020, 09:17 AM | #4709 | |||
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30-07-2020, 09:21 AM | #4710 | |||
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How come Trump hasn't had it? Well neither has a big portion of the world's population. Leaders like Trump would also get special treatment, they would have a team that would constantly be deep cleaning the white house, he won't be catching public transport. During his ralies, he is on stage that is far enough from the crowds. I would say he is extremely low risk. Balsanaro is also a massive advocate of hydroxxxxxxx. He actually mingled with constitutuents. BAM.....got hit. Having said that, he has recovered pretty quick, but so do a large % of people not taking the drug. |
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