The "ve" Thread

[Allen]

Maybe that explains the fuel consumption??

Oh well... It happens, no new car ever goes without its problems... How many recalls did the EA have? (Im too young to remember, but I bet it was a few! )

[5.4 GT]

Seatbelt pretensioners installed backwards was one of them...!

[Falcon Freak]

Originally Posted by DeathXR

Yep, some of the early BA recalls were supplier related.

It is not relevant if the recall is due to the vehicle manufacturer or one of their component suppliers;
- the vehicle manufacturer's purchasing department are responsible for selecting suppliers which can supply parts at a consistent quality level and at a reasonable price
- the vehicle manufacturer's engineering department are responsible for testing the components to ensure that their durability meets the required performance
- the vehicle manufacturer's quality department are responsible for ensuring that the component suppliers have robust processes which should prevent suspect parts being delivered to the vehicle manufacturer

So in the end, it does not matter who stuffed up - it is the vehicle manufacturer who is ultimately responsible as they sold the finished product to the public.

FF

[XR8putts]

It was bound to happen. No biggie, happens to all completely new models. THe BA had its fair share. Not doubt the AU and VT did aswell.

VE seems to have much bigger problems (and intern BF2 and Orion) on the horizon..

[XR8putts]

On a side note, Falcon Freak, is that all the Bathurst wins Ford have ever had? Is Holden tripple that ammount or something? We got some catching up to do!

[mik]

cars are made by people ....people screw up, but holden made a huge boast the best built car.......the best built car :, poorly worded should have been a well designed car with usual local build qaulity.

[Falcon Freak]

Originally Posted by puts99

On a side note, Falcon Freak, is that all the Bathurst wins Ford have ever had? Is Holden tripple that ammount or something? We got some catching up to do!

There were other Ford wins at Bathurst but these were with imported cars:
1963 - Cortina
1964 - Cortina
1965 - Cortina
1988 - Sierra
1989 - Sierra.
So 15 Ford wins in total.

Holden has 25 Bathurst wins all with Australian made cars:
Monaro - 1968 & 1969
Torana - 1972, 1975, 1976, 1978 & 1979
Commodore - 1980, 1982, 1983, 1984, 1986, 1987, 1990, 1993, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004 & 2005

But we digress so lets get back on topic.......

FF

[AWD Chaser]

Yeah - they did want to do a recall of the whole VE fleet for fear of it becoming the Holden AU....

[Silver Ghia]

I thought they did lots of testing costing lots of money, which they showed in the TV documentary and magazines.

One could've easily come to the conclusion that the car was perfect with all the bugs ironed out before it went on sale. How misleading.

[uranium_death]

Fact is that Ford and Holden are not the best cars on an international level but given the price we pay, they are good enough.

To expect a brand new model to have no problems is ridiculous.

Reality is that cracks will appear, and when the VEII is released, some of these cracks will be filled, while a couple more may appear.

It's the way things are, so I wouldn't gloat about this as the Orion will almost certainly have its own issues 6 months after release.

[mik]

Originally Posted by uranium_death

Fact is that Ford and Holden are not the best cars on an international level but given the price we pay, they are good enough.

To expect a brand new model to have no problems is ridiculous.

Reality is that cracks will appear, and when the VEII is released, some of these cracks will be filled, while a couple more may appear.

It's the way things are, so I wouldn't gloat about this as the Orion will almost certainly have its own issues 6 months after release.

spot on mate, regardless of our aussie cars faults they are still pretty good value, but you still have to chuckle the the ve bragging its probably a good car but............ its still ..... just holden

[Smoked]

Was bound to happen. Luckily its not anything to major.

[charles_wif_xf]

Originally Posted by uranium_death

Fact is that Ford and Holden are not the best cars on an international level but given the price we pay, they are good enough.

To expect a brand new model to have no problems is ridiculous.

Reality is that cracks will appear, and when the VEII is released, some of these cracks will be filled, while a couple more may appear.

It's the way things are, so I wouldn't gloat about this as the Orion will almost certainly have its own issues 6 months after release.

Someone I know in the automotive industry has it on good authority that behind the Japanese and Europeans, we are third in quality in the stuff we turn out of Adelaide and Broady. I tend to agree.

[Redrum]

I have noticed a strong fuel smell sometimes in our new VZ crewman....

[Bucknaked]

Originally Posted by vztrt

Could also be a bad batch from the supplier.

Good point. I think a lot of people think the car is crap and blame the manufacturer, when in this case, it's the guys who manufacture the fuel tank.

[Falcon Freak]

Originally Posted by Bucknaked

Good point. I think a lot of people think the car is crap and blame the manufacturer, when in this case, it's the guys who manufacture the fuel tank.

You obviously didn't read this post

FF

[Full Spectrum]

Originally Posted by Redrum

I have noticed a strong fuel smell sometimes in our new VZ crewman....

Lift the accelerator peddle off the floor

[monaroCountry]

Is Toyota's Quality Slipping?
Surveys, Consumer Complaints Suggest It May Be
By Joe Benton
www.ConsumerAffairs.Com
10/11/2006

Toyota has become the recall king, something the company never had to wrestle with in the past as it won most of the JD Powers and other car quality surveys," wrote Wall Street analyst Douglas A. McIntyre. But, as the company's market share has ballooned in the U.S., Toyota had to ramp up production for North America and quality seems to have suffered," he wrote.

Other industry analysts warn that Toyota may be becoming complacent as the company attempts to overtake General Motors as the world's largest car company. They cite the Strategic Vision survey as new evidence that growth may be undermining quality at Toyota.

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news0...a_quality.html

[monaroCountry]

Some of the worst vehicles in terms of problems and recalls were Europeans like Mercedes and Porsche......................

I agree with some people here the most important thing is to fix the car and customer service.

[Falcon Freak]

Originally Posted by vztrt

VE & WM Series Holden Vehicles - Fuel Hose

Date: 16/10/2006

Supplier Name: GM Holden Ltd

Product Make: Holden

Product Model: VE & WM

Target Number: 1521

Model Years From: 2006

Consequences: In extreme cases, the vehicle may develop a fuel leak and a fuel smell may become evident to the driver.

Campaign Number: 06-H-06

VIN Range:

Serial Range:

Product Info: VE & WM Series Holden vehicles fitted with a V8 engine that were built in July and August 2006.

Defect Details: A condition can occur where a fuel hose that connects the main fuel line and the injector rail in the engine bay may have been manufactured incorrectly. If damaged, the location may not be visible as it is covered by an outer sleeve band.

Consumer action: The owners of affected vehicles will be contacted by letter at their last registered address.

Market Coverage: National

Recall Coverage: National

source: http://www.recalls.gov.au/view_recal..._ID_Auto=14434

By the way, all recalls are public. It is a legal requirement.

FF

[I Wish]

Amazing to see all the Honda recalls as well. Even the Lexus.

[JoesAu]

Just seen a vid clip of the ve ss turbo, the thing is an absolute animal. its done by horsepower factory i think. Crazy..

[Justin@]

Have you got a link for the clip?

[JoesAu]

http://www.fullboost.com.au/video.php, it will take u to the download page, u might need to be a member. Ford fan or not this car is crazy. only runs 11.64 but it'l do a ten easy cos of not so good launch.

[JoesAu]

or giv me a msn addy and i'll transfer it to ya that way. its 2.3mb

[Full Spectrum]

Still early days with this turbo and in time it will hit some great times.

[FGX-351]

if its the black ve turbo then the video is already on youtube.

[JD86]

not bad. expect better times from a turbo 6L

[ned]

It's running a single turbo setup and you can hardly tell even with engine bay pics!

http://forum.streetcommodores.com.au...light=ve+turbo
http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=62056

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