BP Ultimate - Quality falling?

[GTpilot]

I normally use v-power usually from the same servo. I have found no diff between BP & Shell 98's. but I get 4c off at shell so thats were I go.

I have however, recently noticed lower econ (K's per tank off MY regular driving)for about a month with v-power not matter where I got it.

This last few weeks it seems to have come good again.

[DJM83]

Vortex98 139.9 cpl today, it will drop tommorrow :

[Road Games]

Well from my personal experience ............ always ran BP Ultimate, couldnt get my wife to understand why?She always had shopper dockets :togo: But after i heard some pinging after a custom tune ,i tried a tank of Vortech ,NO more problem and 4c cheaper i think - So yeah Im a convert , pity ,they spin a pretty good yarn at the Soopa car events with their display :

[GUNEF]

when you change the type of fuel you use do you have to get the engine re-timed. my car is a ef falcon I6 what do you think i should be using. i want to go onto the premium, or that ever, my car has a bit of work done to the engine and i want to look after it better.

[Grechie]

what kind of work dude?

once again i filled up at my local bp servo with ultimate, and soon as the car hits redline it pings, never used to, hrmm safe

[ThoR_]

Ive used Vortex and its junk.....I just use shell premium. Here in Perth i havnt seen V-Power or any of that. I was told theres one that shell do which is 100oct called Optimax maybe its the V-Power........

If you watch alot of car videos you fill find out that Australias fuel is . The octance is actually lower than what it ses it is. Also different batches have different octane ratings there never the same. Sometimes the octance is very low sometimes its high. Ive used BP Ultimate and had no power or econemy difference what so ever. The next time ive used it a few months later its good as gold.

All though in Perth the Shell fuel and BP fuel both come from the BP Refinary so.

It varies all the time. I usually have a bottle of Pro Strength Octance Booster in my boot and put a little handful so to speak in when ever i fill up just to help it.

Go get some Nulon Pro Strength Octance Booster that stuff is great. Just dont smell it coz i did and just about fell on my ***

[ThoR_]

Originally Posted by GUNEF

when you change the type of fuel you use do you have to get the engine re-timed. my car is a ef falcon I6 what do you think i should be using. i want to go onto the premium, or that ever, my car has a bit of work done to the engine and i want to look after it better.

For a 6 i would just use premium and maybe a tank of 98octance every now and that. Depends what your fuel is like where you are and what you can afford. I find where i am that the Premium MOST of the time is alot more powerful and cleaner than unleaded.

Also depends how much work you have done to you motor. If you just have a cam, exhaust, extractors and your basic stuff without really getting into the motor premium is fine. Try not to use unleaded.

I spose what ever you can afford?

[ThoR_]

Wow your fuels cheaper over east ATM....Perths fuel sucks azz. Sitting around 1.22-1.32 for unleaded

[eMpTy]

Only ever used Ultimate twice in my EB XR8 and don't plan to again.
Usually run Woolies premium (Caltex Vortex) and have never had a problem with it plus it's usually the cheapest available here.
On Ultimate the XR8 idles rough, pings once it's over 3000rpm and has about 70-80% of the range of the other stuff.

[GUNEF]

thanks ThoR i will use premium next time i fill up do i still need to get it re timed??? i have exhaust, extractors, cold air, hi flow cat and a couple of chips very very soon. just little mods for know.

[asusdragon]

well i usually alway use BP premuin 95 stuff and never had a problem, decided to try Caltrex 98 today so i will see how that goes over the next week

[seXCmont]

I second the Nulon Pro Strength. It mad a difference in my panel van(spun wheels at lights couldn't before). you shouldn't need the car re-timed just to run 95 octane it should be alright.

[ThoR_]

GUNEF....nah you dont need to re time it at all mate.....you can advance your timing and but you have to use 98 octance all the time its not really worth it. Well atleast i know alot of people with pocket rockets like SR20 Pulsars, Suzuki Swift GTi`s, Corollas do it. Dont need to on a big car...Just run premium you will notice the car will get up and go easier....With those mods you could even run unleaded untill you get a chip....Its just premium and 98 octance run alot cleaner and clean your engine of krap and carbon and so on.

If you use unleaded for a while check your spark plugs they will be dirty....use premium or ultimate and check them they should be clean......

Nulon Pro Strength Octance Booster rocks! All though your suposed to put the bottle to 60litres and i put the bottle into 20litres of what i had elft in my old VC Commodore 202 when i had it and the thing was FLYING was wicked...And that pretty much stuffed the motor but lucky i sold it a week later lol

[fordxc78]

I have stopped buying Ultimate. I run Caltex 98 now and my garage doesn't smell. The Ultimate stank, great performance but horrible smell. I really don't care what fuel I run as long as my car doesn't ping, the Caltex does the job and I am a sucker for the 4c per litre discount vouchers, something that BP doesn't have. Also I was put off getting a BP fuel card as they wanted an extra 38cents for every transaction. Got a Caltex instead.
Only thing with Caltex that annoys me is the 98 pumps are few and far between and the places are always crowded on the cheap days. You can't rally go in and drive around until you find the 98 pump, and often there isn't one.

[GUNEF]

thanks that has been a big help.

[V3RSAC3]

i run premium now, have been for the last 2-3 weeks, so thats what? 5-6 tanks or so ... and i have found that is runs SOOO much better than just unleaded ... more power, and doesn't smell lolz!

[ThoR_]

even my 202 use to idle alot smoother at the lights than unleaded...with unleaded it sounded like a worked 454 V8 with premium didnt really grumble much at all.

[blownba]

I give a vote for the Shell V-power. I stopped using Shell when they had Optimax and was using BP for some time then I saw the new V-power and what it promised and started to run that again.
Now I don't know if its my imagination but mid range pickup and throttle response seams HEAPS better and I no longer have that annoying idle drop down (to like 400 or 500 rpm) that was happening when parking ect. when engine was hot, like it was doing with the BP.
I heard a mate of mine weighed 5L tin of vortex and same 5L tin of V-power and the V-power was a bit heavier??? If that means anything.
I have also noticed that the Shell servos next to motorcross tracks always have V-power racing.

[Badcooky]

Actually most fuel comes from BP no matter what it's branded.

[ti0350]

I don't know if this means much considering I drive an SS but when i first boguht the car I ran on Ultimate, then I changed to Vortex98 and I'm getting more Km's to the tank.. I tried V-power the other week and my car pinged ( first time it has since I bought it) so I wont using it again.. I was thinking of trying V-Power Racing but after finding that it's usually heaps more then 98 I wont bother.. I've heard whatever difference it may make isnt worth the extra price you pay..
I talked ot my mate this week and he uses Vortex 98 in his BAGT and he recons the car loves the stuff..

[Ives]

Originally Posted by blownba

I heard a mate of mine weighed 5L tin of vortex and same 5L tin of V-power and the V-power was a bit heavier??? If that means anything.

IIRC, the V-Power is slightly denser than any other 98RON PULPs. But I dunno if there's benefit to that.

[MITCHAY]

I'm an Ultimate man through and through. I used to run Optimax and not only did I get crap economy but also less power. I only fill the WRX up with Ultimate unless I'm down the coast and have to settle for Vortex 98. Won't touch Shell again that is for sure!

My car has never skipped a beat on the Ultimate!

[RG]

Originally Posted by Badcooky

Actually most fuel comes from BP no matter what it's branded.

Well that explains the Mobil refinery in Altona North and the Shell refinery in Geelong then doesn't it.

[Badcooky]

OK but who do they buy their oil off've red.
They have refineries yes but most fuel and oil comes from BP be it from the rigs or the refinery it's how it is, most oil refined into fuel in OZ comes from BP one way or another.
If you don't believe go google,

[RG]

Originally Posted by Badcooky

OK but who do they buy their oil off've red.
They have refineries yes but most fuel and oil comes from BP be it from the rigs or the refinery it's how it is, most oil refined into fuel in OZ comes from BP one way or another.
If you don't believe go google,

The oil may come from BP but the petrol blend is still made by the refineries.

[Badcooky]

not allways

[FPV8U]

Ran my car to almost empty on the weekend, and filled with a full tank of Ultimate to see if my economy changed and it seems the same as usual between 10-11L/100Km and ran 238Rwkw at the dyno day.

[70caprigt3k]

I put a tank full of ultimate in on friday, now the car is running like a bag of crap, pinging like crazy, running rich as hell and idling poorly. Back to Shell V Power for me.

[gm_eta]

haha yesterday at the ford show bp had a stand they had two gt-p falcon one was running bp ultimate and the other one on regular. on the dyno there was only a 0.2kw difference between the 2

[watejs06]

all the fuel comes from bp , i work in the industry however the bp ultimate is a different blend. i prefer vortex98 my au 5L loves it , i used ultimate a few times did't like it much.