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Old 04-10-2011, 06:25 PM   #31
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Default Re: Scanners embedded in road to result in fines for those driving on worn tires?

Just remember guys/gals. This is getting looked at in the UK and not Australia. So before people pull all their hair out maybe see if this actually can be used.
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Old 04-10-2011, 06:32 PM   #32
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Just remember guys/gals. This is getting looked at in the UK and not Australia. So before people pull all their hair out maybe see if this actually can be used.
Valid point, remember the whole of pommyland is smaller than Victoria with 4 times our population. Not quite so profitable here.
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Old 04-10-2011, 06:59 PM   #33
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Just remember guys/gals. This is getting looked at in the UK and not Australia. So before people pull all their hair out maybe see if this actually can be used.
I realise that, but being one of the only other major countries which drives on the left, the RTA and other road authorities tend to take developments in the UK as gospel and necessary here. Just look at their love affair with speed cameras, flourescent yellow signage, lower speed limits etc etc. It's a veritable fact that many senior members of the RTA take annual trips to the UK for the purposes of getting so called "Road Safety" ideas.
They'll cherry pick ideas and initiatives to ensure rivers of cash keep flowing in to the government coffers.
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Old 04-10-2011, 07:16 PM   #34
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Default Re: Scanners embedded in road to result in fines for those driving on worn tires?

Like we thought we'd never see other British ideas like fixed Gatso's on the side of the highway, point to point cameras, and objects on the roadside (wheelie bins, guideposts, etc) with cameras hidden in them...stuff like that?
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Old 04-10-2011, 09:00 PM   #35
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Here is a photo of the "offending" unit

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Old 04-10-2011, 09:21 PM   #36
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Yeh i reckon i could get a crowbar into that
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Old 04-10-2011, 11:28 PM   #37
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Is it just me, or is anyone else wondering what a squidge of clear silicon sealant along that long "lens" depression in the top would do...?

Not to mention how long that would stay clean enough to give accurate readings...
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Old 05-10-2011, 09:07 AM   #38
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It would read through silicon.
I'm thinking a little metal strip over the top of the scanner would do the job, or perhaps some sulfuric acid to the scanner strip wouldn't do it many favours.
Either way, being on the ground it will be vandalised.
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Old 06-10-2011, 09:51 AM   #39
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Old 07-10-2011, 01:07 AM   #40
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Is it just me, or is anyone else wondering what a squidge of clear silicon sealant along that long "lens" depression in the top would do...?

Not to mention how long that would stay clean enough to give accurate readings...
if I was to go that path I would give it something with color, tile adhesive perhaps or liquid nails, something it cannot "see" through

or you could just carry some bits of ply in yer boot come up to sensor stop lay ply over sensors drive over then take ply put back in boot and drive on
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Old 07-10-2011, 09:09 AM   #41
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Drive around it.
I always replace my tyres when they are low on tread, but it's the principle.
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Old 07-10-2011, 10:07 AM   #42
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Simple gaff tape would work perfectly
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Old 07-10-2011, 10:27 AM   #43
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Default Re: Scanners embedded in road to result in fines for those driving on worn tires?

This thread seems to have degraded to a lot of talk about malicious damage to public property. Discuss the topic, being the problem of unroadworthy tyres and management of the problem.

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Old 07-10-2011, 11:50 AM   #44
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Default Re: Scanners embedded in road to result in fines for those driving on worn tires?

Too many variables for my liking...get back to the old days of police actively driving around looking at cars, instead of relying on a potentially flawed piece of equipment.

I wonder what would happen if it gave a false reading, you got fined, and tried to fight it? I think, like a speed camera, they will assume it is the only scientific measuring device in the world that never ever makes an error or has a plus or minus allowance. Even if you turned up with your car and said 'See, the tyres are fine", they'd just say "So you got new ones or borrowed a legal set...big deal...pay the fine".
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Old 07-10-2011, 12:19 PM   #45
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Default Re: Scanners embedded in road to result in fines for those driving on worn tires?

The best way to go about this, which would resolve without an uproar, is simple.

Send the fine out, and say
"You have 30 days to send a receipt of new tires purchased for the vehicle. If you do not comply within the time limit, your registration will be void and a bigger fine will be imposed"


I'd rather send back a receipt!
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Old 07-10-2011, 12:47 PM   #46
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Default Re: Scanners embedded in road to result in fines for those driving on worn tires?

But that doesn't cover the error factor...what if it makes a mistake? You will have literally no defence against it...probably even less than you would have for a speed camera. You can hardly send a reciept for tyres you might have bought a year ago, and will just be accused of putting on legal ones if you went in and showed them and complained.
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Old 07-10-2011, 12:52 PM   #47
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JC makes mental note: must get the M&H's off the XR
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Old 07-10-2011, 01:10 PM   #48
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Default Re: Scanners embedded in road to result in fines for those driving on worn tires?

There are a lot of cars out there with dangerously low tread.

the police don't do anything about them, so I guess these scanners are next.
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Old 07-10-2011, 04:25 PM   #49
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I still say it would make more sense to set up RBTs and direct cars off to the side at random for tyre inspections, let the Police officers do it the way they should be operating speed cameras not the maquarie bank. these sensors like speed cameras are a means to automate the process, the sensor says your tyres are worn out so it must be so have a fine, I am against this type of thing as I am not an ATM machine when I drive my car, this is my reasoning and we already get shafted big in terms of fines, registration fees and other automotive based expenses, perhaps there is so many cars getting around on crap tyres is because the owner of said vehicle is too busy paying off his speeding infringement he copped on a warm sunny day at midday at the base of a hill whilst traveling at 114 in a 110 zone in his older car without cruise control, so to keep his license he has to pay the fine, and in paying the fine/fines he skimps on auto maintenance, why can't some of the revenue raised through speed cameras be used to rebate the cost of tyres this in my opinion would go a long way to improving the tyres cars roll around on
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