Best Australian built car of all time

[pottery beige]

Originally Posted by PURSUIT-250

XY GT = legend .
Was the bench mark for all performance cars till the very late 90's
Had it all going for it ,looks, race history, media hipe, wow factor.
Respected by all motor enthusiasts.
All hail the king.

i dont rate it.. its shaped like a box of tissues...

[jixel 78]

HAHAHA. I`m pritty sick of em too.

[mik]

maybe i misread the post, i thought it was best built Australian car, , if we are goin for legendary aussie cars the XY gets my vote too !

[F6 R-Spec]

Originally Posted by pottery beige

i dont rate it.. its shaped like a box of tissues...

Box of tissues or wether your sick of looking at them
They are the most desirable / expensive Australian mass
Produced vehicle.
Oh and replicated.
So you must be a minority .

[F6 R-Spec]

Originally Posted by mik

maybe i misread the post, i thought it was best built Australian car, , if we are goin for legendary aussie cars the XY gets my vote too !

Heh me to,
I initialy thought it was best Built vehicle, so I just went with the flow.

[1TUFFUTE]

itssounds funny to say but surek the ford territory must be near the top purely statistically. Wondr if there are stats that cover all cars made...then theyd know for sure....must be hard er these days with all the tech they squeeze in haha...

[Road_Warrior]

Originally Posted by Pub247

Its well known that the omega platform is much better than falcon especially the irs rear

lol, wut

Are you serious

[1TUFFUTE]

Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

lol, wut

Are you serious

yeah what he said...the only thing good about ve went thru hsv doors...the rest is not so good at all....

[Iggypoppin']

Originally Posted by wrongwaynorris

Absolute NO BRAINER Bolwell Nagari closely followed by the Illinga AF 2

what the hell are these cars? I have never heard of them, so really not a no brainer just your own opinion? not to sound harsh either.
My pick would be HQ Holden, XA Falcon in a tie for first with the 48-215 next and the GTHO P3 next after that.

[wrongwaynorris]

Originally Posted by Iggypoppin'

what the hell are these cars? I have never heard of them, so really not a no brainer just your own opinion? not to sound harsh either.
My pick would be HQ Holden, XA Falcon in a tie for first with the 48-215 next and the GTHO P3 next after that.

Google them .

[buickman]

Originally Posted by jpd80

When we constantly look backwards, we miss seeing what's in front.

I loved the Aussie cars i had in my youth but would I want to own one these days?
Not on your life, these are the good days.

I tend to agree The VE + FG are miles ahead of the older cars less likley to rust and safer the only thing is back in the 70's & 80's cars were easy to repair in the backyard with their basic technology.

The 308 V8 HT GTS I owned in the the early 80's was a pig of a car to drive with no power steering and rust issues which most had.
My only regret I have is the car would be worth a lot more than the $1,500 now than when I sold it.


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[jphanna]

i know the VE has been mentioned a few times in this thread. i have one now, but if the FG was out at the time of purchase, it could easily have been that model that i own.

i was brought up in a family of die hard valiant charger and ford coupe brothers, plus a dad who worked in the chrysler factory (putting the doors on your valiant)....but i am not a die hard anything.

i told my mechanic in early 2008 that i was going to get a newish falcon or commodore. he told me....'john one day you will get in and you will find that the the airconditioning wont work, then another time, there will be no music, or it wont start because of a flat battery, even if it was not faulty'

he was right. the VE has numerous times flattened the battery due to a glitch in the 'body computer'. it also has sent warning signals on many times, only to be reset aftar a restart. also it has has times where the ventalation has failed. electrics are dodgy for sure.

but to drive it, it may not have the torque of the big aussie falcon, (even my old EA ***** on it for towing) but it is silky smooth and revs its tits off without hesitation. it handles beautifully, sits on the road beautifully, and it still looks good to me after 5 years on the road. i got into my mates wifes v6 camry and thought it was a truck next to my VE. its that smooth.

i have had many cars over the decades, of all various brands, including japenese, and although the jap cars didnt have niggly electrics, i still tell people who ask me what is the best car i owned......VE by far.

[302 XC]

Best built aussie car , well you could only guage that by the sales ,wouldnt we ???
If the general public at its time of release didnt like em, they wouldnt buy them
48-215 , EH,HQ were big sellers,but would they be contenders in the best aussie car ever built ???

[b055m4n]

Originally Posted by jixel 78

+1. A white Hatch please.

I know i'm going to cop flak for this , but i recall in about 1980 taking red A9X for a test drive and then realising there was nothing else this good locally built , very good handling and well balanced this car had been engineered to a much better degree than i had antisipated. I never did buy that car but i have always understood what Ford up against after that.

[wrongwaynorris]

[QUOTE=302 XC]Best built aussie car , well you could only guage that by the sales ,wouldnt we ???

Far from it , it is NOT a sales competition , Following that logic the Corolla is better than a Lamborghini , Porsche , Ferrari , Mercedes etc etc .

It's the " best" Australian built car , pure and simple .

[ashfast1]

My best Australian built car is.

Ford XP XM XB XC XD EL BA FG

Holden FJ EH HR HZ VL VT

Mitsubishi TH TJ VR-X

Mitsubishi TJ Best they made and best looking

[gtxb67]

Originally Posted by b055m4n

I know i'm going to cop flak for this , but i recall in about 1980 taking red A9X for a test drive and then realising there was nothing else this good locally built , very good handling and well balanced this car had been engineered to a much better degree than i had antisipated. I never did buy that car but i have always understood what Ford up against after that.

obviously the criteria is different to everyone
i have never driven a torana, but having been a passenger in both a 4 door and hatch, there was no comparison between an xb and a torana
the comfort levels are much higher - you can wind down the rear windows in a ford coupe, you don't have to pop them out
overall "to me" the xb is finished much better - of course i am biased and single minded though

[b055m4n]

Originally Posted by gtxb67

obviously the criteria is different to everyone
i have never driven a torana, but having been a passenger in both a 4 door and hatch, there was no comparison between an xb and a torana
the comfort levels are much higher - you can wind down the rear windows in a ford coupe, you don't have to pop them out
overall "to me" the xb is finished much better - of course i am biased and single minded though

Yer i agree the Falcon coupe had better ride and interior was way better quality than Torana.

[BENT_8]

Best built Aussie Car would have to be the AU2/3, even by todays standards it holds up well which no other 12yr old model could come close to over the years.

Best recieved vehicle would be the Holden HQ/Falcon XF and sales figures for the day support it despite its lack of 'win on Sunday sell on Monday' racing pedigree, they smashed the opposition.

Best looking cars...XB Coupe/A9X/AU2-3 XR or T series

[F6E]

E39 Chargers, the 70's F6

[CAMS290]

Maybe not in build quality, but execution, design and user friendliness the Territory wins hands down.

Different than anything built in Australia, rates as high or higher than more expensive Euro's in the handling and NVH tests.

[T3man]

Wow, what a variation on definitions we find here. There's no point in even leaving a comment because the goal posts change everytime someone posts. LOL.

If you are going to have an "objecive" winner then the base for voting has to be clearly defined - otherwise it is only each individual's personal opinion based on whatever criteria he chooses for comparison.

[vbvbvb088]

A car that is always rubbished is the JB Camira.

Let me see:

Economical
Carries four people easily… five as well.
Enormous boot.
European influenced styling.
HB Torana > Gemini > VB Commodore > JB Camira…’World Car Program’…. That is where we are at now?
First OZ car with ‘integrated door trim’s.
Trip Computer… even to this day people I show think it is amazing that such a 1982 car even references the word ‘computer’… let alone tells me distance to empty.
Holden export credits program….
The wagon in terms of ‘black box’ dimensions was bigger than Commy and Ford wagon.

I own 2 ‘mint’ SL/e’s…. have a shed full of NOS items. One day I will retire on them! 

[turbo4me]

The best built car was not the early Holden, if you listen you can hear them rusting was pretty close. I know the early Ford had rust problems, but nothing like the Holden.
I think the only cars that beat them for rusting were the Jappa's. Still reckon the HQ looked like it was built in Burke's backyard.
XY GT for me closely followed by the XA GT, had two XA GT's brilliant cars when set up right

[F6E]

Is the thread..

Best car built in Oz ? ( how it reads to me )

Or, as most have interpreted,

Best build quality of an Oz car ?

.

[gtxb67]

i guess it is open to interpretation. there is too much potential criteria to have a clear #1

to me, it is easy - i drive the greatest car that australia or the world has built
in all seriousness, if i won powerball, my garage would just have more coupes. maybe 1 bm or aston for a bit of fun, but exotics don't do that much for me

[2011G6E]

I remember reading an article asking a similar question...can't recall the magazine...which said the "best" car is the one sitting in your driveway right now.
A brand new Australian made Falcon, Commodore, Camry, whatever, has dynamics, power, reliability, economy, safety, and equipment levels far beyond luxury vehicles and supercars of twenty (sometimes even ten) years ago.

[mash again]

302 powered Bolwell Nagari

[2011G6E]

Originally Posted by mash again

302 powered Bolwell Nagari

Pity the fool who hasn't seen one of these little plastic wonders in full flight!

[NAK302]

Originally Posted by 2011G6E

A brand new Australian made Falcon, Commodore, Camry, whatever, has dynamics, power, reliability, economy, safety, and equipment levels far beyond luxury vehicles and supercars of twenty (sometimes even ten) years ago.

exactly

best ever is as diverse as the folks pushing their own biased opinions on to others.
i won't bother with my pick here.