Car-parts racket costs GMH $2.5m

[Dave R]

Originally Posted by RASER

No need for hi-tech, push-rods keep it very very compact, has the runs on the board, all 100 million of them.

Gap will widen to the others, direct-injection is fitted to GEN5, out in 2013

http://media.gm.com/autoshows/small_...100M_GenV.html

Least thats 1 good thing to come from TeamGM

I'm glad we can agree it's not high tech.

[pottery beige]

lols how someone always leads with their chin.....

[KIWI-1]

When I worked at Ford in the 80's Ford they were losing engines hand over fist and couldn't figure out how. Made in Geelong, trucked to Campbellfield, and THEN stamped with an engine number. What the?

When I worked at Todd Motors NZ in the 70's they were loosing all sorts of stuff. The son of an afternoon shift security guard was a panel beater who specialised in Chrysler and Mitsubishi repairs. Would the ring the old man up every afternoon with his order, the old man would drive the XY Falcon Ute into the plant and load her up. Police did a stakeout and they got jailed for taking 621, yes 621 tyre in 3 days. What the?

[Stazza_Brendan]

No wonder theres so many LS#/L98 transplants going on.

[SteveJH]

Originally Posted by RASER

JAIL [not gaol] for all offenders, its crime and should be punished

Its only "Jail" as opposed to "Gaol" if they are extradited to the US.

The proper spelling is Gaol.

[cool65]

Couple of other "missing things from GM file".
Heard there was a couple of newish vehicles driven through a hole in the fence down at Fisherman's Bend, (10+ years ago) straight on to the Westgate freeway & off into the sunset.
When GM Dandenong was running, I heard that new gearboxes were being stuck in the semi trailer toolboxes & vanishing.

In transport, "if it aint bolted down it will go walkies", crates of 8 x imported Ford V8's being unloaded on the docks were not making it to Broadmeadows.

[b0son]

So much for their ISO 9001 certification then - if it were properly implemented, they'd have sufficiently tight control of material movements to be able to prevent this.

[fte50]

More than a couple vehicles went out the hole in the gate and all were newer than newish - all Statesmans.

VN Grp A days the engines were built at Fishermans Bend, transported to Elizabeth, fitted in cars and failed on start up - valve & roller rockers were stripped out of em on the night shift - with a 30% shift loading for the effort

The best racket was inline 6 days- you were allowed to bring your old motor in the gate & run it down the line for a re-machine etc to help out employees. Many employees took the gratitude abit too far and were walking out with new motors instead - guess what was fitted in every 1/50 new cars

[cool65]

The Asians at the engine plant at Fisherman's Bend use to gamble which cylinder would blow on the engine test when they threw nuts down the carby.

[BENT_8]

Lol, funny stories.

This reminds me of an old country song about a bloke who stole a whole Caddilac from the factory where he worked.
'One piece at a time' it was called from memory.

When he put all the bits together it was a freakshow...

It may have been the bloke who was getting around Elizabeth in the VN with VT taillights and twin sunroofs

[MercurySilver]

few guys i work with now have worked there

you always hear stories
im guessing it would prob happen at most big places

[ZA-289]

Hahaha not suprised really it is usually elizabetheans and sailsbury type folk that work there (flame suit on, just banter kids)

Also on a side note there is some funny dudes on this forums

[XARATE]

Originally Posted by fte50

More than a couple vehicles went out the hole in the gate and all were newer than newish - all Statesmans.

At least one was recovered apparently, it was donated to tafe nsw and ended up in wagga tafe. Its Still there too.

[KIWI-1]

Don't worry, Julia will give them a grant to cover the loss.

You gotta wonder though; Clive Peeters didn't know $19.4m was missing; Transpacific $48m; Hastie $20m, and so it goes on.

[b2tf]

Originally Posted by XARATE

At least one was recovered apparently, it was donated to tafe nsw and ended up in wagga tafe. Its Still there too.

Ahhh I'd heard that story before!

I think you'll find with most manufacturers etc the size of GM there are always going to be things going on.

That said, if anybody works there, I'd really like to 'acquire' an L98 and some Coulson seats........

[nstg8a]

Originally Posted by KIWI-1

Don't worry, Julia will give them a grant to cover the loss.

You gotta wonder though; Clive Peeters didn't know $19.4m was missing; Transpacific $48m; Hastie $20m, and so it goes on.

well in the tradition of taking the mickey at the expense of our aussie brothers, it is a country originally populated with convicts back in the day...

[last fairlane]

Dont forget the $11 mil that Queensland health lost to a prince no less

[COUP-76]

Its amazing what you can fit behind or under a false wall or floor in a delivery truck. I've heard it's been going on for years.
I've worked, sorry attended there for almost 9 years now.

[Saraco]

LOL!!! I'm a subcontractor, for one of the bigger logistics companies, that has a major contract with GMH....won't say which one, but it starts with the letter C. When I go into the plant, they bust chops about accredidation and wanting to know the colour of my jocks, as well as checking my rig front to back and underneath too!Camera in your mobile phone sir? Hand it in to us, whist your in the plant....can't have you taking spy shots! But their lackeys are stealing stuff from under their noses? Oh! It is to laugh!

[Riksta]

Originally Posted by DJM83

6.2L focus.....
Many lols though

Annnnd, WEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. V8 Focus would be nothing but fun. Example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKhKZ...eature=related

Originally Posted by KIWI-1

You gotta wonder though; Clive Peeters didn't know $19.4m was missing; Transpacific $48m; Hastie $20m, and so it goes on.

I know if I'm missing fifty cents. I think I'd notice a figure that big. Maybe I should get one of these jobs that pays a few million a year to run a company.

[Falcman0o7]

The hi-tech V8 motors, which are fitted to the latest model VE Commodores, retail for around $10,000 each through dealers but were being sold for as little as $1500 on the black market.

Hi-tech! LOL! Pushrod donks have been around for a hundred years! so has Spark Ignition holden! hahahahahaha!......

[stevz]

Originally Posted by Falcman0o7

Hi-tech! LOL! Pushrod donks have been around for a hundred years!

DOHC has been around for just as long, if not longer, so what's your point?

Oh that's right, it's school holidays again....

[aussie muscle]

Originally Posted by Jim Goose

I can understand maybe small ticket items dissappearing... but complete engines?

better than stealing cars, with vins and stuff stamped all over them.

Originally Posted by Morexbs

How the hell do you get something that big out the gate without being busted (and more than once)??

If you look the part, most people won't even question you being there. A big computer company lost thousands of dollars of RAM because someone walked into their office and pulled it out of their computers by posing as a computer tech.

[bobthebilda]

Originally Posted by b0son

So much for their ISO 9001 certification then - if it were properly implemented, they'd have sufficiently tight control of material movements to be able to prevent this.

Not sure if car companies actually worry about ISO certification, most of them tend to keep their quality systems inhouse (but i stand to be corrected).

It does make a mockery of Ministers coming out and saying that taxpayers moneys needed to keep these workers in the job because they are some of the best in Australia. They may have some of the best thieves in Australia, but surely senior management dont have a great heads up on whats going on. You may not be able to control things going missing, but surely after a while you would notice some engines going missing.

[Smoke Pursuit]

Sadly this stuff happens everywhere...

Just a bit unbelievable that they can get a v8 motor out of the factory without some sort of authorization.... I am sure many of the Ford / FPV badges on ebay are pinched out of the factory, there's no way someone is going to go down to Ford and pay $50 for a badge then sell it on ebay for $25, and have multiples of them!

[KIWI-1]

Originally Posted by bobthebilda

Not sure if car companies actually worry about ISO certification, most of them tend to keep their quality systems inhouse (but i stand to be corrected).

"QS-9000 is a set of quality standards adopted by GM incl. Holden" from Holden's website.

[jpd80]

This is a post from GM insidenews.com, this guy knows what he's talking about:

Originally Posted by BBDOS CV8

Holden uses barcode readers for inventory managment, from before parts enter stores allocation to computerised production
schedule that matches an engine from stock to a car being created in the body shop. They're scanned in, they're scanned out.
As the vehicle goes down the line barcode is zapped when the parts are used, which tracks every car through the factory.

Believe me, if they went to the rack in the warehouse and the engine allocated by the computer in it's crate wasn't there,
or the car got to the engine insertion station on the line and there was no engine and trans waiting at the engine dressing station,
someone would be asking questions. Without the driveline, that car can't leave the line. it would literally stop.

This is a barely-credible News Ltd beatup. 'Police estimate....believe....unconfirmed' means News don't know really
anything. The only named source says an ongoing investigation is occurring.

This is the same organisation, as Rupert Murdoch's US Faux News. Apart from Media Watch, no-one calls them to account when
it turns out that their '$2.5M' estimation organised gang turns into a couple of ********* opportunistically pilfering.

I've been there, seen the line - no-one is walking out the factory gates with a V8 in their handbag.

[KIWI-1]

@jpd80
So why don't Sean Poppitt and Detective Superintendent Peter Harvey deny it?

[Shonky.]

Originally Posted by stevz

DOHC has been around for just as long, if not longer, so what's your point?

Oh that's right, it's school holidays again....

sure, but ummm........ who said DOHC was hi-tech?

Certainly not the original news article or anyone in this thread.

You're the second person to make that pointless.

Attention span fail?

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by KIWI-1

@jpd80
So why don't Sean Poppitt and Detective Superintendent Peter Harvey deny it?

or more to the point, why are there no arrests?

Sources said the investigation had so far recovered several stolen engines and a large number of automatic and manual transmissions.

Notice they said "Sources", not the police....

I think we need to watch for developments, something sounds strange for sure,
maybe there's another way parts are being siphoned off...