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12-05-2013, 08:17 PM | #31 | |||
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Then tell me whos got their finger in the pie with closing retailers, and nil jobs for kids .... Cant complain your shop closed, then parade how cheap things are buying direct O/S ...... |
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14-05-2013, 04:40 PM | #32 | |||
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14-05-2013, 06:32 PM | #33 | ||||
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I prefer to buy online as it makes my life easier and cheaper when I don't have time running round to shops.
Needed a new MircoSD card for the phone, mine's gone dead, so priced them up on eBay, nice cheap things they are, class 10 32gb Sandisk from Sydney, $24.95 + free postage. Thinking that I'd like it a bit sooner than a few days, and since I had some spare time, I called into JB Hifi to grab one instead. Class 10 32gb Sandisk, same product, same packaging. $75. I walked out the store empty handed and clicked buy it now on eBay. $50 difference and I've still purchased from an Australian supplier. And people wonder why we shop online instead of getting our butts into stores.
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14-05-2013, 06:39 PM | #34 | ||
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I buy my computer bits from umart.com.au, almost on par with American pricing for electronics.
The only problem is that they charge a minimum of $35 for postage if you're not near a distribution center. No problem for me, as I buy somewhat in bulk.
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14-05-2013, 09:30 PM | #35 | ||
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What until the Aussie dollar drops, very few people will buy from overseas.
I import small scale, and if it drops, I'll close up. Won't be ale to pass those costs onto my customers. I get jeans and clothes from bargainsavenue.com and they are cheaper than I could ever get them here. With the exception of some 501s I got from Costco, they were cheap, but I spent a lot of time finding the right size.
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14-05-2013, 11:20 PM | #36 | ||
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Let me make something clear: I support local small business whenever I can. I will happily pay a premium for Australian Made goods. I refuse to (knowingly) buy imported food and I will support WA farmers first and foremost. I actually prefer dealing with small business, as the knowledge and service is superior also, and whenever I can I will support the local guy.
Ironically it’s actually sometimes easier to find Australian made stuff online because the big chain stores won’t stock it. Unfortunately many local small businesses have been driven out by the chain stores. It’s been a long time since I had a “local hardware store.” Sadly also most things are now manufactured overseas, so if my choice is limited to a Chinese product, I would prefer to buy it cheap online rather than pay a hefty premium through a chain store owned by WW or WF. Sometimes when buying via eBay it IS actually an Australian small businessman who is doing the importing and selling. Having been in small business, and having worked with hundreds of others in a professional capacity, I can tell you that what goes on with rentals in the big shopping centres is downright criminal. Also that the behaviour of the big multinational suppliers is reprehensible. That said, I am not bitter about these things, that is the away the world operates, but I will be blowed if I am going to support them either. The notion that by buying a product direct from China, rather than allowing a multinational to import the exact same product and sell it to me via Big W, I am somehow costing jobs is laughable.
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15-05-2013, 07:51 AM | #37 | |||
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Theres the blokes at customs who check the goods, then the freight company,wether in house or out sourced,its a cost, then the warehouse workers who unload the goods, theres already a few workers, both on the floor and in the office,then the person/persons who stack the shelves, the checkout chicks, then the people who stand at the store entries/exit checking bags for those who don't want to pay Theres more people involved than the person at the counter Then the money these people earn, they buy from/support other businesses You've run your own show,you should know goods don't fall from the sky ,someone has to organise them, which in turn is a cost and involves other companies Just running my show here, im involving well over a dozen other businesses, both directly or indirectly,which in turn need many businesses to help run their business Last edited by 302 XC; 15-05-2013 at 07:58 AM. |
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15-05-2013, 08:28 AM | #38 | ||
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eastbay.com for all sports clothing and shoes
chainreactioncycles.com or wiggle.co.uk (now have a .com.au shop) for cycling stuff digitalrev.com for Camera stuff ozgameshop.com for all games (PC and xbox360)
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15-05-2013, 08:40 AM | #39 | |||
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15-05-2013, 09:54 AM | #40 | |||
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In true AFF style this thread goes down the drain.
This is a thread about WHERE to buy CHEAP stuff ONLINE. For ducks sake.
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15-05-2013, 02:43 PM | #41 | ||
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Here’s a classic example. I am looking to buy a rather large piece of equipment. They’re made in China, that’s just the way it is, whether I buy it direct, or from the local guy, it’s the same piece of machinery from the same factories in China. Price from China is $1,600, plus $265 delivery to my door. (Not bad considering the size and weight of the package.)
Price from the local guy $2,995. Yet I STILL contacted the local guy on the assumption that he would be able to provide delivery, advice, and aftersales service. They were unhelpful to the point of being rude, told me I would need to organise my own truck and hiab to collect it from their shop (so not even a delivery charge, just “bugger off”) and left me with the clear impression that looking for aftersales service would be a waste of time. I know the costs facing local business, he would be paying through the nose for his warehouse (commercial property is nuts over here) plus wages, taxes, and everything else. Yet He HAS the opportunity to differentiate and value-add; if he were to offer advice, delivery, setup, and service, he’d get a lot of business from those that don’t want the hassle of importing and installing it themselves.
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15-05-2013, 04:00 PM | #42 | ||
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I,m with you all the way crazy Dazz , Only someone who has been or is in small business can understand.
I could write a book on the things I have witnessed with the bigger retailers versus the small, wholesale and retail a like.
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15-05-2013, 05:06 PM | #43 | |||
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In this day and age ,and how hard its becoming to keep doors open, this bloke needs a reality check,lock the door at foreclosure ........ Im always on the hunt for cheaper raw materials, to run my show,im always trying hard as hell to be competitive What I make here can be made O/S,imported with all costs,unloaded cheaper than my raw material ,pre labour cost Im competitive , im on the front line,people do appreciate talking to the person who makes it,rather than some O/S worker, but the bottom line is money ..... I can be sometimes a tad dearer, quicker turn around,but push the boundaries too much ill loose the sale 20 years doin what I do,im not giving up without a decent fight |
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16-05-2013, 08:40 AM | #44 | |||
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Other Hong Kong sellers on Ebay are worth tracking too, IMHO. I have had no problems in ordering from these, but I have kept to those who have Ebay's top-rated seller rating. After watching items of interest over a period, I have a suspicion that the Hong Kong traders change their names, or operate under several names, for some reason. But I have been very happy with my experiences, and especially the prices. And by the way, if you are after a gift for the wife or girlfriend, it is hard to go past: http://au.strawberrynet.com/main.aspx Strawberrynet offers outstanding prices on French perfume, for example. It's very reliable. |
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16-05-2013, 09:04 AM | #45 | |||
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Emailed 2 sellers on Ebay who were based in HK / China and then found 2 local vendors who sell the exact same product with their usual 30-40% mark-up. Which didn't bother me as I was more interested in after sales help and support and would prefer to call a local number than email an OS chap that may not have a good command of the English language. The 2 locals never replied, the 2 OS providers got back to me within 1 day with a detailed response.... And I'm buying for an independent high school which was ready to write the cheque........ and that was clear in my email. I didn't bother with the purchase as sending parts OS for repair or replacement and waiting for delivery would greatly impact the people who would rely on the machine.
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16-05-2013, 09:17 AM | #46 | |||
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Similar site format, similar T&C, similar pricing, same fake endorsements from recognised authority figures. Many are also in Australia (and wrongly state that they are local vendors with fake addresses, fake / misleading business information, fake phone numbers). When I sent a long email to fair trading they didn't bother commenting on the fact I provided several online companies that were clearly not based here with: We don't have control over overseas vendors, please take your gripe up with them directly...." Yup... no wonder they have been described as a toothless tiger... Buying cheap stuff online is great, that is until you get done with a dud item or an item that never came and the only point of contact is an overseas based site that chooses not to bother replying after they have your money.
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16-05-2013, 09:35 AM | #47 | ||
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Good point, Yellow Festiva.
In fact, I would never buy a laptop on-line, let alone the batteries, except from the manufacturers. I have heard too many stories of scams. My positive experience with the Hong Kong traders has been with cameras and accessories. Even there I am inclined to buy spare batteries in Aus. |
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