VN group A vs ED sprint

[smoo]

Originally Posted by L.F.C

I might be wrong again but I'm pretty sure they came out in a green aswell

You must be thinking of the SV5000. A Calais spec HSV but still with 215kw I think.

Those VNs would be one of a few 'V' series Holdens I'd spend my hard earned on. Awesome cars, what else with 4 doors from 1990 could touch it? Bugger all.

[Mr. CVE]

mine is build no 350
they were randomly numbered as holden were supposed to build 500 of them but stopped as soon as the rules changed, as they were loosing money on each one.
that's how desperate holden was to beat the skylines of the day.luckily they banned the skyline and holden didn't have to build the homoglation 500.
the vn group A was the ultimate holden and you are comparing it to the sprint, which may as well be the GT. so you are comparing apples with apples.
why did i buy a holden, well i am a ford person but the eb gt was too soft for me, and i did always like the vn group A and i saw one for sale and thought... i will never be able to buy a phase 3.. ( the ultimate ford.) this is the ultimate holden, i can afford that.
so now i have a group a.
Then i hotted it up !! and well the rest is history.
the ZF box is well umm ok. not great. but is definately a strong box.

[EBFalcs]

they were both top of the range performancs models. it's like the typhoon compared to the SV6! 270kw vs 190kw ford won this time. isn't it funny holdens most powerful six 190kw fords base model XT 182kw

[Mr. CVE]

Originally Posted by smoo

You must be thinking of the SV5000. A Calais spec HSV but still with 215kw I think.

Those VNs would be one of a few 'V' series Holdens I'd spend my hard earned on. Awesome cars, what else with 4 doors from 1990 could touch it? Bugger all.

the SV5000 is a 200 kw engine, auto only
as the t5's of they day couldn't keep up with em, that is why the group A was 6 speed, back before the t56 days.

[EBFalcs]

why would they randomly number them wouldn't they do it in an organised manner by going 1-302. also does that mean theres 198 VN group a Dash badges available for mock ups

[EBFalcs]

i thought they used 6 speeds because the 5's couldn't handle the power

[dansedgli]

Originally Posted by v8capri

mine is build no 350
they were randomly numbered as holden were supposed to build 500 of them but stopped as soon as the rules changed, as they were loosing money on each one.
that's how desperate holden was to beat the skylines of the day.luckily they banned the skyline and holden didn't have to build the homoglation 500.
the vn group A was the ultimate holden and you are comparing it to the sprint, which may as well be the GT. so you are comparing apples with apples.
why did i buy a holden, well i am a ford person but the eb gt was too soft for me, and i did always like the vn group A and i saw one for sale and thought... i will never be able to buy a phase 3.. ( the ultimate ford.) this is the ultimate holden, i can afford that.
so now i have a group a.
Then i hotted it up !! and well the rest is history.
the ZF box is well umm ok. not great. but is definately a strong box.

Is there any truth to the block being stronger in the Group A? I am starting to like the regular VN SS's. I think they would be good as a run around.

[Mr. CVE]

Originally Posted by EBFalcs

why would they randomly number them wouldn't they do it in an organised manner by going 1-302. also does that mean theres 198 VN group a Dash badges available for mock ups

Yes this is true
for example build no 200 does not excist.
yet someone made plaques and sold them.

The vn group A engine block included is completely different to the regular vn ss
the only thing the same is the oil pump, everything else is different

[The Mighty Red]

Originally Posted by smoo

You must be thinking of the SV5000. A Calais spec HSV but still with 215kw I think.

Those VNs would be one of a few 'V' series Holdens I'd spend my hard earned on. Awesome cars, what else with 4 doors from 1990 could touch it? Bugger all.

yes mate the SV5000 is the car I am thinking of.Dark Green in colour and an Awesome car in its day.

[KEV EB XR8]

Originally Posted by smoo

Those VNs would be one of a few 'V' series Holdens I'd spend my hard earned on. Awesome cars, what else with 4 doors from 1990 could touch it? Bugger all.

Ford had not yet put a V8 in a falcon of course they couldnt be touched. "for long"

[smoo]

Originally Posted by KEV EB XR8

Ford had not yet put a V8 in a falcon of course they couldnt be touched. "for long"

I was thinking on a global scale, and something more than just a tarted up base model (like the current ****). BMW M5 and that Lotus Opel Omega spring to mind, thats probably about it for 1990.

[EBFalcs]

WRX's

[LTDHO]

To proove the point, v8capri should race SprintED.

[dansedgli]

Originally Posted by LTDHO

To proove the point, v8capri should race SprintED.

Then we will know for sure. Its only best. :hihi:

[EBFalcs]

nah i think top of the range vs top of the range. that's only fair that proves who knows whats best for an engine

[Mr. CVE]

Originally Posted by LTDHO

To proove the point, v8capri should race SprintED.

hrmm. umm ok

I suppose that could happen, will be a very close race... untill the light goes green :the_finge

[Psycho Chicken]

Originally Posted by EBFalcs

WRX's

WRXs didn't come out til 1994.

[Sprint_ED]

ok if u want to do that paul give me a sc, make it 480 kw then well compare loll

seriously, i think that the engine is a bit better than the group a, but the weight of the vn helps alot, they were only like .3 secs appart on the quater

[eed-250]

is that SprintED the one that runs high 11's?
if so u must have a pretty decent group A V8capri!!

stock form a group a will rape it.

[LTDHO]

Originally Posted by Sprint_ED

ok if u want to do that paul give me a sc, make it 480 kw then well compare loll

seriously, i think that the engine is a bit better than the group a, but the weight of the vn helps alot, they were only like .3 secs appart on the quater

Ha ha ha

I think the extra power and 6 speed helps.

[Mr. CVE]

Originally Posted by eed-250

is that SprintED the one that runs high 11's?
if so u must have a pretty decent group A V8capri!!

stock form a group a will rape it.

decent ??umm some say it is.
I suppose I am the GRAND DYNO CHAMP CLASS 5 !! Jsmilie:

so it must be pretty good.

[Sprint_ED]

11's i bloddy wish

[EBFalcs]

what about a VN aero they're 220kw i think

[EF302]

Originally Posted by EBFalcs

this is a VN Group A for those who don't know This particular one is 1 of only 2 black ones made

hmm, had one rock up next to me in my ef.
and he was like :
i had no chance, i need mods!!!!!!

[EBFalcs]

was it a black one

[Mr. CVE]

Originally Posted by fordboy

hmm, had one rock up next to me in my ef.
and he was like :
i had no chance, i need mods!!!!!!

Umm i doubt u pulled up to one of the 2 genuine black tooheys group A's as they are worth a fortune !
and to think they were prize giveaways !

[EBFalcs]

to be one of the genuine black ones not a resprayed one. the number plates are (1000V8) and (2000V8)

[EF302]

Originally Posted by EBFalcs

was it a black one

no it wasn't black

prob just a mock up, but was damm fast

[Mr. CVE]

In all honesty the stock vn group A was a bit average in performance,
Bit like the xr8 of today, nothing down low, then all up top.

I remember , cause when mine was stock, it was boring,
couldn't decide whether to s/charge it or stroke it... so i did both !!
Now it has power everywhere !! 300 rw kw @ 3500 rpm !!

[XRated]

Originally Posted by Psycho Chicken

I'll take a Sprint anyway. Too much bloody body kit hanging off the Group A.

I agree! I don't like the lines of VN+ Commies. Paul's Group A sounds incredible though :evilsasmo