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30-03-2010, 05:04 PM | #61 | ||
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The Freelander was a new model no more than two years ago, and Land Rover has no key new models due for a while now. It's definitely a Ford, look at the headlights, the overall design and shape along with the strong ties to the Flex. This is the next Explorer. Kinda looks like the old Ford Freestyle/Taurus X with elements from the Kia Sorento and Land Rover inspired A-Pillars. But it's a Ford.
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30-03-2010, 05:23 PM | #62 | ||
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they really look similar that ford and the car that was spied... spied? more like photographer offered them money for the pics in exchange for their faces to be blurredo out
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30-03-2010, 05:29 PM | #63 | ||
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That is definitely the new Explorer, you can see the evolution of the Escape design with a shipload of Taurus/Mustang in the sides.
I think if the new Territory is an Australian-ized version of this it should be quite a looker! |
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30-03-2010, 09:56 PM | #64 | |||
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30-03-2010, 10:03 PM | #65 | ||
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Hmmm
I can see a freelander/saab/pajero/territory influence there. Not earth shattering design. |
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31-03-2010, 10:49 AM | #66 | |||
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02-04-2010, 03:18 PM | #67 | ||
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Just to give a little insight to how it happened in the US, as I am old enough to remember....
Up until 1979/1980 the only FWD US Big3 cars made were the Buick Riviera, Oldsmobile Toronado, and Cadillac El Dorado, that I can remember. Those had always been FWD dating back to the mid 1960's, and were considered a novelty. After 1980, when computers and FWD were becoming the norm I knew many people that said (GM guys) "I will go to junk yards and buy a few 350's to keep in the garage. That way I can keep my pre-computer, RWD car going for as long as I need. I will never own a FWD, computer controlled 4 cylinder car!" This was the battle cry of MANY Americans. Electronic fuel injection, FWD, and computer controlled 4 cylinder engines were the ENEMY, and no way would we drive these cars, period! Today in the US, most cars are by far FWD. This is what I drive in for most of the winter... FWD does go much nicer than RWD, as much as hardcore RWD enthusiasts hate to admit. I had a 1990 Ford Festiva that never got stuck in this stuff because it was FWD. My wife's 2002 Mercury Villager minivan (in the above picture) is a tank going through this stuff, and also has never been stuck. Performance people, like us here, as much as we hate to admit it, are a minority. We are enthusiasts in a particular field, and we are far out numbered by the "typical" daily driver people. Now, from a manufacturer's standpoint, as some have mentioned, FWD makes the car lighter because you have a transaxle instead of a cast iron rear axle, or a long driveshaft and rear independant suspension, and the accompanying axles. This increases fuel mileage, and that is one of the big issues at the moments. Because it gets better fuel mileage that reduces the carbon emissions as well. Also, I would think it is cheaper as several here have said. So like it or not, most cars are FWD, and most "ordinary" people think that is fine. We are a separate lot, and I am begining to wonder if our days are numbered. One closing thought.....the GRWD platform was shelved, not abandoned. Ford wants to compete in EVERY segment, so that would have to include RWD as well. Steve
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02-04-2010, 04:29 PM | #68 | ||
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Didn't we just finish having the FWD debate? :
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02-04-2010, 11:40 PM | #69 | |||
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I thought so too. This Explorer will be lighter with FWD and I think that is attractive to Ford. How the fan base of the Explorer will react to that is yet to be seen. Perhaps they will say "Well, aren't most vehicles FWD? The Explorer is finally catching up with the times." Of course I don't think like that, but we are talking more about people that own cars rather then car enthusiasts. Steve
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03-04-2010, 12:15 AM | #70 | ||
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completely agree for your purposes Ohio XB, if i drove in snow all day i'd want the same thing, at least as a daily. But Australia has very little snow, and that we do have is generally isolated to the alpine country regions, far away from the capital cities..
anyhoo, whatever is provided, is provided, we have no say. |
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05-04-2010, 10:24 PM | #71 | ||
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20-06-2010, 05:34 PM | #74 | ||
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After reading the above link it states that it is a 4 x4 where as the terry is AWD surely these cars would be aimed at 2 different customers.
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