SAD!!! Ford XR GT on ebay

[302 XC]

Originally Posted by Bud Bud

I think the one thing most have not considered is just because it is a GT doesn't mean it had any real value back then when it was parked after all, the current model now had a 351 Clevo, was faster and in the end became what ended up being the most desirable.

Consider this, the "supercar" scare era was still a year away and the fuel crisis was another two and ADR 76 which crippled any real power gains from a factory V8 was still another five years away as well and of course the next Generation V8 Falcon would ultimately come as a two door coupe if that took your fancy. Times were good and this was an era when it was easy to market the next model as more desirable than the last and there was no way of knowing that it would not always be like this back then. This car as far as cars go was easily replaced back in 1971 and how do we even know that the owner did not actually do this with a GTHO or 350 Monaro, just because he could?

Hind sight is a wonderful thing but this car sadly was parked as a wreck in a time when you could buy a much better replacement brand new, it is as simple as that and after all, this car could easily have been a HR Holden Premier or even a Toyota Crown and if so, would anyone be bothered having the same discussion today?

Bud Bud

So true,but what annoys me ,is all the great people who parade how someone should or shouldn't look after their things
I wanna see people parading that the E series are dumped,scrapped at alarming rates,or that new breed of muscle cars depreciate that much that in 5,10 years they will be affordable that those with new full licence buy cheap and flog hard ....
So for 40 years this bloke had this garden ornament,and probably put life and family first ,shock horror someone who had priorities in life .....
Maybe he was one of those "One day " and finally realised that "one day" came and went
People carry on about old cars how they are disappearing, but they are getting crushed daily,yet no one stops it

[nstg8a]

Originally Posted by au3xr6

the whole issue with tarps depends on the type used. most people think of a tarp as those cheap plastic sheets you get from the $2 shop not treated canvas that breathes while protecting ( a true tarpaulin )

$20 plastic covers were mentioned earlier.

[flooded one]

Originally Posted by 302 XC

So true,but what annoys me ,is all the great people who parade how someone should or shouldn't look after their things
I wanna see people parading that the E series are dumped,scrapped at alarming rates,or that new breed of muscle cars depreciate that much that in 5,10 years they will be affordable that those with new full licence buy cheap and flog hard ....
So for 40 years this bloke had this garden ornament,and probably put life and family first ,shock horror someone who had priorities in life .....
Maybe he was one of those "One day " and finally realised that "one day" came and went
People carry on about old cars how they are disappearing, but they are getting crushed daily,yet no one stops it

thing people have too realise that ALL cars will eventually be destroyed. nothing is forever as sad as it is. there all destined for scrap eventually

[FTE-063]

anyone else spot that it's stamped JC instead of JG on the radiator support?

yeh i did, even the last numbers don't look legit i emailed the gt club of australia to see if they can help me out if it's genuine or not. i reckon the clown seen jc33 and thought genuine gt going buy he's answers to the bidders questions i doubt it. one person even ask if he can have a look since he's local guess what the seller said no his reply, it's unfair to others just that smells a rat do you know it's a criminal offence to sell a non genuine gt as the real thing. i've been down that road 20yrs ago when i was looking at buy a xy gt similar to this not as bad the xr, he was asking 5 g's for it until i looked further into the car it was a restamp body.

[Charliewool]

There's no such thing as JC anyhow.. JG, with the G meaning Broadmeadows, the GM is Nov 67.. Be interesting what the GT club comes back with?
The shifter hump and the steering column looks correct.
Also be good to see under the hump.. I think the floor was just gas axed?

[FTE-063]

hey with patience & bit of money it can turn into this

[nuthin' fancy]

I can't see the car is genuine. He won't allow inspections.

No drive train - no matching numbers.

What is immaculate, restored, non matching number XR GT worth? $40K?

There can't be an economic argument for restoration, can there? (prices will have to go up to justify).

[FTE-063]

well i ask the guy a question and told i'm it wasn't genuine gt this was his response

[FTE-063]

when i asked him to show me proof of sales documents, he just told me that the wining bidder has the RIGHT TO ASK FOR THEM

[ozrunner]

I have no interest in restoring cars be they GT or otherwise but man you would have to be super keen to want this pile of poo.

Whether its genuine or not who knows, but back in 67 every GT would have been supplied with all normal GT cosmetics and although its a bit ragged I can't see the GT badge clip holes on the right rear boot or rear window sill nor the badge that was on the dash ????

[FTE-063]

I can't see the GT badge clip holes on the right rear boot or rear window sill nor the badge that was on he dash ????
i spotted that to

[MrEL]

The badge is on the dash where its meant to be.
Open the pictures with the enlarged view.
You can even see that the car is gold in the inner door jams.
I have no doubt the car is a genuine GT.
The seller is being a bit of a knob with not letting people inspect it , but you only have to look at the amount of "experts" that are actually KAAFA's that have appeared in this thread.
Who would want people like that at your place?

[zoesgift]

Originally Posted by nuthin' fancy

I can't see the car is genuine. He won't allow inspections.

No drive train - no matching numbers.

What is immaculate, restored, non matching number XR GT worth? $40K?

There can't be an economic argument for restoration, can there? (prices will have to go up to justify).

even with non matching numbers a genuine xr gt restored even close to correct is EASILY worth 40k. the ones with matching number motors even more. the market is full of low quality cars asking high quality money. someone with the right skill set could bring this car back. time money and ambition is whats required after that

[ozrunner]

Originally Posted by MrEL

The badge is on the dash where its meant to be.

I stand corrected but shouldn't there be a V289 type badge next to the dials on the dash.

Also as far as I know Ford didn't use stick on type badges back then so going by other rust etc there should be some rather large rusted badge holes on the rear window side sill and boot.

But I guess if it really is a GT, before and after restore pics would certainly gain some admiration even from me

[deesun]

By advertising it as unreclaimable he is probably just covering himself and possibly trying to weed out some of the amateurs and judging by the questions you can see why. If I was a buyer I would certainly like to see it first but consider he has a 100% positive feedback score. Would you be giving out the address of this item to just anyone?

[LTDHO]

I can't wait for the build thread!

[x series]

Well you could ask for log books and check if jc33 where noted or the first rego RTA dated 1967 then to be 100% sure. imo i would not touch it without proof.

[302 XC]

Imagine how many untrained tools would front up for inspections if they were available
Youd spent all day hearing all the tall stories from those whos dad had one of those rare 6 pot GTs,or their cousins,uncles, brothers ,nephews granddad who bought one from new with a rare 351 ......
If your genuine and the seller is playing hard ball, youd either look into it with as mentioned a GT club,or get some more info
I wonder IF the winning bidder turns up for the collection and cancels the sale

[pottery beige]

throw this up for ***** n giggles..

red ned primer is original.. summer gold is donor car bits..



that XR is mint..

[deesun]

Only 4 hours to go and a new bidder has emerged, only + 50 but its a new bidder.

[Paul302351]

I wouldn't waste a perfectly good, 2 dollar, 6x4, general purpose, blue tarp on the bloody thing.

[MrEL]

$8300.
Someone is laughing all the way to the bank.

[PG2]

Originally Posted by MrEL

$8300.
Someone is laughing all the way to the bank.

Yeah. But they haven't paid for it or taken delivery yet. Remember, this is Ebay we are talking about.

[jamies]

So what happens when the winning bidder goes to collect his prize and the car falls in half ? As much as I love the old Henry's the rust does love them, The plenum chamber is a perfectly good place to start.. Seriously expensive project..

[FTE-063]

$8,300 is pretty expensive for garden gnome

[deesun]

Lots of naysayers here, how about some encouragement for someone who wants to bring the old girl back to life.

[DJR-351]

I once knew someone who rebuilt a car with nothing but an rusty ignition key to start with.....

This'll be a snap....

[RAPID_BA]

Just ridiculous..

I wouldn't take that heap of rubbish if it were free..

For the price it's going for could buy b series xt in top condition or au3 220 xr8 that will flog it even after its been restored.

For the amount that people have bid it's proof there is one born everyday.

[gcg2503]

Originally Posted by RAPID_BA

Just ridiculous..

I wouldn't take that heap of rubbish if it were free..

For the price it's going for could buy b series xt in top condition or au3 220 xr8 that will flog it even after its been restored.

For the amount that people have bid it's proof there is one born everyday.

Your comments are more humorous than the $8300 sale price.

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by gcg2503

Your comments are more humorous than the $8300 sale price.

I thought Hulk was banned from commenting on anything to do with <MY2002??

That is no doubt a crap load of work but a car worth doing, people spen more doing up a Falcon 500!

Good Luck to whoever gets it, such an elegant GT.