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Old 10-02-2015, 12:09 PM   #61
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Airbags, DSC, ABS, etc, we initially paid a premium for these features and now they are standard fitment. All new technology will be the same. Your Nokia 3210, how long did you keep that for vs newer smartphones?!

Gotta move with the times. Cars are cheaper these days and you get a lot of car for not much money than yesteryear. Fight it all you want, the days of cars running for decades with simple systems is a thing of the past. Use and recycle is the future, not resale.
sounds good in theory, but those things i listed have heaps of labor involved and parts cost , abs /dsc/etc /etc pretty much work the life of the car at no cost.
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Old 10-02-2015, 12:35 PM   #62
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Well that's the point. You don't hear anything, just lovely silence

It's a city thing really, especially peak hour driving. Little use for it in the country.
I meant when the lights go green and you hear it go cough, then look and see a brand new car driving away.
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Old 10-02-2015, 12:41 PM   #63
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Wretched, the revolution in the car industry isn't introducing irrelevant ideas to prolong the dinosaur internal combustion engine, the start of the revolution is to phase them out.
I guess i exaggerated in saying a revolution in the car industry but the ICE is going through one right now. Not just evolution. We're now seeing emphasis on emissions and efficiencies without losing performance. You can see it across the board, smaller V8s being used instead of larger capacity V8s or cylinder engines, four cylinder engine performance getting to a point of where V8s were not long ago.

Whilst the technologies brought in to these engines may be seen as irrelevant to some and prolonging the inevitable, the manufacturers can only bring out what we can support. If ICEs were stopped right now can Australia still run? No, we don't have facilities to accommodate EVs. Is that car companies responsibility or the government? These technologies have enabled the ICE to continue far more efficient than ever before and with the (slow) introduction of EVs, we can start migrating slowly away from ICEs.

In any case I would agree that we're prolonging a technology that should have had the processes and infrastructure there to phase it out years ago, but that's for another discussion.
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Old 10-02-2015, 01:30 PM   #64
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Found the off button it is near gear selector but must turn off each time I start car . It drives much smoother, now ,
Recently went in a drive in the latest Subaru Forester with Stop Start & CVT. I didn't like it, yes it is smooth and everything works instantly but it's not what I'm used to. Even the wife commented on it - "was it me or did that car feel wrong?"

My mate works at Subaru and gets a different model each month to take home, loves them and reckons that the technology saves a noticeable amount in fuel each year.

I think some are better than others, as I drove one German brand and there was no noticeable affect when taking off. Though it did have a 'proper' automatic, not that CVT rubbish. Maybe that's the difference.
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Old 10-02-2015, 02:13 PM   #65
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My wife's Smartcar has got it. It's called EcoMode. You can switch it off if you want to.
When you stop the engine is killed. As soon as you take your foot off the brake it instantly restarts.

Wife does not like it because she is scared that it will roll back on a hill start. I keep telling her it won't as it has also got a hill hold function. As long as you get off the brake pedal and onto the accelerator pedal within 2 seconds it won't roll back.

I've got used to it and I'm sure it helps the fuel economy which in the Smartcar is already pretty awesome at 4.5 litres per 100ks.

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not that CVT rubbish. Maybe that's the difference.
I'm sure it is.



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Old 10-02-2015, 09:55 PM   #67
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I understand that with VW's you cant switch it off.
My daughter' new polo has it and it can be switched off.
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