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That will give them a lifeline to no ICEs sold 2035. But by then most will probably be irrelevant. |
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or it's an acknowledgement that we're trying to get blood from a stone. the idea that you can turn fuel solely into CO2 and H2O given the types of chemicals going into an ICE and the conditions under which they're being burnt, is somewhat fanciful.
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Was a lot of chicken littles here when they initially came out with their ICE bans with targets like 2030 et al. Reminds me of a certain major party and their '50% renewables' by 2030 target near on 10 years ago, that was rushed through and big press releases made, as we sit in 2024 here in VIC: ![]() 95% brown coal ![]() We're only 6 years away from 2030, not sure what their thought process was with committing to it, then advertising it everywhere, and trying to implement this idea so quickly when Stevie Wonder could see it wasn't going to work. Same with the EU and their fanciful ICE bans. Last edited by Franco Cozzo; 01-01-2024 at 02:38 PM. |
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The Nem Watch widget is a much better depiction of what is really going on in the market. I appreciate it's not quite comparing apples with apples as its a different time and the market has probably changed slightly since you posted, but at 14:10 nem time, roof top solar accounts for around 2800mw of supply, large scale solar only 486 mw, wind 387 mw and brown coal 2160 mw in Vic. Therefore, renewable is accounting for around 64% of the market. That is a much better representation of the market status.
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And before anyone chimes in, no he didn't tow a van. That wasn't the point of the exercise, and the tesla would never be the vehicle of choice for such a trip. Those who are anti-ev really need to open their minds and check out his really well documented, frank and open assessment of the tesla's capabilities for just such a trip. Worth noting his comments about driver fatigue, too, over such a distance with aids such as the tesla auto pilot system.
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Reminded of my first road trip with my parents, from Goondiwindi to Esperance in 1956. Had to carry petrol in a jerrycan, and where is a sealed road, and would we get there. There would have been little more ICE vehicles on the Nullabor then, as there are Teslas on the way to Uluru now. Not impossible, but not done by many. A jerry can of electrons will be handy in 2030 when EVs are queuing for chargers. The Fed Govt is promoting EVs at the same time as warning us that here will be blackouts in the future due to reduced electricity power plants. WTF, go figure on that logic. As to long distance road trips via WoopWoop, I have done few. Lucky Starr is jealous. |
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Just tow a trailer with a three phase generator on it - unlimited range
![]() Its like how toast always lands buttered side down if you throw it, tape it butter side up to the back of a cat which always lands on its feet and we're flying to the moon with our new anti-gravity device. |
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Didn't infer that, or write that it won't.
Currently, while you are refueling your ICE vehicle, you don't order and eat a burger, drink a cup of coffee and explore the Maccas playground while watching the time until you hope the tank is full. There is a Tesla charging station about 20km from where I live. I think about 6 or 7 chargers, usually with 3 Teslas in it. Not easy to see or to get to. Yeah, Tesla drivers have apps, but it is not 'in ya face' like a traditional servo. More EVs require more chargers (duh ...tell the govt that) with longer charge times than dumping 50 litres of petrol into a tank. How many more chargers do we need for the inevitable increase in EVs and charging point road rage. |
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Euro95 is currently €1.70 , which equates to the $2.60 mentioned. I am undue where you got $1.30 from as the AUS$ is weak against the Euro. The calculation, adding Australian excise, would make 95 Octane $3.06 per litre. UK is GBP1.50 per litre, equivalent to AUS$2.80 per litre. Certainly not cheaper than Australia at present |
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Just drove to Merimbula and back, far South Coast NSW from Sydney. Saw quite a few Tesla 3 dual motor and an older S towing vans of various sizes.
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You must think I am stupid. Geez, full marks for being a spin doctor. Something I do believe is that the car industry and the petroleum industry grew hand in hand, each one benefitting and promoting the other. Plenty of iron ore around to build cars, and plenty of oil just waiting to be drilled. EVs are being introduced at a time when electricity is becoming in more demand at the same time as the present capacity, via Govt policy, is being wound back to satisfy the saviors of the planet. In Australia, currently we are being told to learn how to ride a pushbike with no handlebars before we can walk. |
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Homeowners with solar are way better off sinking as much of their excess solar capacity into charging EVs, or heating up water or other intensive energy uses than feeding it back into a grid at a time where there is an overabundant supply of energy. Have a look at your link now 2 hours into peak - wind is up a nice percentage but brown coal is still putting in the work for VIC. |
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