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Unless it is charged solely from a solar source all you’re doing using an EV is changing where the pollution is coming from and in Australia that will be mostly from a very dirty coal burning power station. And then there all the social and environmental issues around the disposal and manufacture of the EV's batteries.
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100% the technology is there and its only going to get better, its just prices are still reflecting the r&d.
Tangent/sidenote. The teslta cybertruck.... how do you get stuff out the front of the back of that thing with its whacky triange design. Also what do you do if you want to put an ally tray on the back or a service body? |
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At work the other day noticed that the installation I was working at near a housing estate, local voltage was at 252V, which is right on the upper spec of the standards (253V)
Must be from solar input from the housing estate, so there's a lot of excess energy being generated during the day that could go into people working from home EVs - there's a reason FIT is so low these days and its because energy during the day is basically worthless because there's shitloads of it and not overly much demand for it. Quote:
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![]() Which means during the peak solar window, your solar panels do absolutely nothing, because grid voltage is too high and the inverter cuts their output. So I'd say having a bunch of people charging EVs in these areas which have peoples solar turning itself off all the time probably isn't going to strain the grid as supply is exceeding demand significantly on a suburb level. |
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Simple answer, for me anyway.
No, not i dont. But i also ride my bike to work ![]()
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So there's a comparator in the inverters that checks grid voltage? |
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The modern inverters ramp down output to try prevent it, but when she goes too high, off goes your solar setup. Causes issues in some regions too if there's too much solar input to the grid, they'll restrict the amount of solar you can have on your house for a grid feed setup. Usually I see 230-240V, saw 252V the other day early in the morning, and saw it again today but regional VIC instead of Melbourne suburbia. Yep its within the standards so its fine, but its right on the edge of the upper limit. Quote:
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Off go your solar panels and you start importing energy from the grid, during the peak solar window on older setups - oops. It effects some areas way more than others, depends on demand from the local area and the amount of people with solar panels on their houses. Last edited by Franco Cozzo; 27-02-2024 at 08:04 PM. |
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That's all good and well now, but from your experience Mr Cozzo, would the grid as it is now be up to the task of supporting 15 million electric cars?
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The grid as it sits can certainly cope with EVs, the extra load in these areas where everyones solar keeps turning off because of too much solar input and not enough demand in the peak solar window would welcome it I reckon. |
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I bought in the Hills for this reason too. Many generations from now they can enjoy the beach at home
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I’m quite accepting of the likelihood that widespread enthusiasm for cars as machines, will probably end in my lifetime. I don’t own them as investments but as tools, distractions and things to enjoy using. I’m less accepting of the idea that duration and scope of my enthusiasm may be foreshortened by blanket policies.
(Much like cars, I think many musical implements will soon enough fade rapidly from common use. People will interface with AI to generate stuff they want to hear - why waste hours practicing scales and repertory on a cello or trombone? This will also stop the wasteful production of many lesser grade instruments.) |
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Getting driven to school in the GTF will be the equivalent of Mum doing the school run in her pyjamas with no makeup and a smoke hanging out her mouth
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Hence why we don't fall to the right side of the plane when we fly to NZ.
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If only it was linear
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Sea level rise in last 20,000 years, 2nd chart shows much larger rises than today 18,000 years ago to 8,000 years ago - particularly meltwater pulse 1A which was that 13,000 years ago approxmately...
https://www.e-education.psu.edu/earth107/node/1506 ...which correlates with many of the worldwide end of the world myths Most of that huge rise is the coming of the interglacial period, so that means many of our ancestors' settlements are about 400ft under water now. Again, so many legends of the seas swallowing the land whether that be off the Sunshine Coast or beyond Land's End or anywhere else. It is likely that the Laurentide ice sheet collapsed, for varying hypothesis why it did. My favourite is Randall Carlson's* one, imagine 100m deep of water moving at 160km/h over about 2 weeks over an enormous area - it left the scars on the NW US landscape you can still see today... This doesn't take away from today's sea level rises, as the oceans expand (and locally, as land falls away in areas). The oceans are absorbing much of the CO2 and they are a huge system with many feedback loops. * here are a couple of the links, blows you away to think it could all happen so suddenly if you have enough water to do it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaHO00ISseY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqpnDMBBSGE
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No one has ever claimed that climate is not changing, it has done so for around 4.5 billion of years. Man made climate change is another story. It's pretty hard to believe anything that we can do will cause any major changes in climate.
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