what do you hate most about the e series

[OffRoadFalcon]

A couple weeks ago I passed a EF/L wagon that was turning into a driveway, they had their highbeam on and when they flicked theirs down, I put mine on with the narvas turned off... theirs was absolutely abysmal!
Worse than I expected.

But my mates 89 Colt's highs is worse... it's worse than my lows!

[naughtyfalcon]

well i have to change mine now, i went to an au, nice to drive but, i have now bought an EL wagon, except for the missing tail gate trims i love the thing

[stojo]

i had a el xr8 got written off by a lady going through a red light was the best car eva never laid a spanner on it.just normal service items had 240000km still original leads.bought a ba xr6 turbo already dramas.1st cd stacker not working now heater dosent blow hot. worked out its some shaft that breaks dash outjob.grrr

[Perko]

The fact that I cannot drive both my XR's at the same time!

[BPXR6T]

BCM, changing starter motor or coil, head gaskets.

[naughtyfalcon]

Originally Posted by Ford_The_Win

Having spent many years behind the wheel of an EL and now getting around in an FG....there's absolutely nothing I miss about the EL! Not the crap (and sometimes dangerous) handling, the non-existent brakes, the crap seats, the rattly brittle interior, the poor fuel economy and that whoooooop first gear whine... If someone can get it started and out of my back yard, I'll buy you a slab! But thanks for all the help you guys gave me while I was still getting around in it - much appreciated.

don't know what el you had , but my el wagon handles really good , the brakes work perfectly , the interior does not rattle , fuel economy is great (just over 700 from a tank) and no first gear whine what so ever, so yours must of been a lemon from the factory or you abused it and blame the car and my xr seats are very comfortable.

[supershifty]

Originally Posted by BPXR6T

BCM, changing starter motor or coil, head gaskets.

You got the coil bit right, what a PITA to get at. Took my bro's EL down to the exhaust shop while he was O/S to get the tailpipe fixed. Drove it home and parked it up. Decided to start the thing to move it a week later to mow the lawn and nothing, cranked but zero spark. Damned thing ran like a charm when I last drove it. Ran all the tests and deduced it was coil. Grrrr!

[raised by monkeys]

When i had my EF and modding it, i couldnt put on decent brakes unless i bought the mustang caliper kit with modified uprights, and no decent wheel options available in +10 offset

[My32Doors]

I have an NCII Fairlane. Everything is good EXCEPT for bloody door rubbers. Can't find newies- that's what I hate!

[Grippy]

Bloody headgaskets and brakes, otherwise my e series were great.

[SSD-85]

Another one to add to the list;

Theyre so ridiculously cheap that its almost impossible to resist adding one to the inventory.

[superyob]

The constant repairs to electronica and system components...
Stuff that has never gone wrong on my ZD because it does not have it...

[naughtyfalcon]

what constant repairs to the electronics , never had a problem with mine

[superyob]

Originally Posted by naughtyfalcon

what constant repairs to the electronics , never had a problem with mine

In the 9 years I had my EB:
1 steering rack & pump
1 starter motor
2 head jobs
1 fusible link
1 alternator
1 fuel pump
Many attempts to seal oil leak from timing chest
2 dizzys (my fault but would not have happened to ZD or any older car)
1 coil (my fault again...)
1 exhaust that cracked and fell off engine pipe

And that is what I can remember... I had my revenge though. I eventually had my students prepare it for demolition derby!

Just remembered! The steering shaft bearing through the firewall collapsed twice while I had the car...

[Bossxr8]

Neither have I. In fact I have owned 4 E series and the only problem I have had in regard to electronics is a dicky cruise control set button. It's just a non issue.

[XR6T0Y]

When I had my EL, the dizzy(I think it was), died while I was driving along at 90k's. Steering gets very heavy when there is no power steering.....

[EL2794]

Originally Posted by superyob

In the 9 years I had my EB:
1 steering rack & pump
1 starter motor
2 head jobs
1 fusible link
1 alternator
1 fuel pump
Many attempts to seal oil leak from timing chest
2 dizzys (my fault but would not have happened to ZD or any older car)
1 coil (my fault again...)
1 exhaust that cracked and fell off engine pipe

And that is what I can remember... I had my revenge though. I eventually had my students prepare it for demolition derby!

Sounds like most of that could happen to any car. Therefore you need to expect that repairs to an older car will need to take place compared to a newer car. Hell, my dad's Liberty is now 7 years old and the air-con belt died... you couldve probably replaced all of those parts mentioned above with the price Subaru charge for the belt.

[superyob]

Originally Posted by EL2794

Sounds like most of that could happen to any car. Therefore you need to expect that repairs to an older car will need to take place compared to a newer car. Hell, my dad's Liberty is now 7 years old and the air-con belt died... you couldve probably replaced all of those parts mentioned above with the price Subaru charge for the belt.

Not so. My ZD is still on its original steering box/system, starter motor, no fusible links, no electronic fuel pump, no dizzy or coil that stopped working, no steering shaft bearing to collapse, I could wash my engine without fear of electronic failure…

In the 21 years that I have had my ZD, it has stopped on me once, when the timing chain on the cam gear slipped a tooth. And even then that was my fault because it gave me heaps of warning that this was going to happen…

So no, most of this does not happen to any car.

I’m not sure what you are on about in regards to a Subaru air con belt…

[Bossxr8]

So you're saying we should all go back to carbies, and ditch anything electronic in cars because you have a reliable ZD. Interesting theory.

[superyob]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

So you're saying we should all go back to carbies, and ditch anything electronic in cars because you have a reliable ZD. Interesting theory.

Where did I suggest this?

[BradEL]

I have previously had an EF Fairmont as my first car, and now got an EL XR6, and I had no problems with either of them. The only thing I hate is that I couldnt afford to own them both.

[Falcman0o7]

They are not cars for a dumbarse

[John G]

I dislike not being able to check the auto trans by the dip stick on my EL GLi wagon
John G , Adelaide

[Craney]

The genius design and positioning of the cup holders and power window switches in the EL Ghia's. Perfectly done to ensure many litres of liquid spills over the switches as the years roll by.

Gotta say though, the windows have never stopped working

[Sorted]

Well at the moment - the EL BTR 4 speed with no dipstick as I have to get under the car to top up the tranny fluid :(

Originally Posted by Craney

The genius design and positioning of the cup holders and power window switches in the EL Ghia's. Perfectly done to ensure many litres of liquid spills over the switches as the years roll by.

Gotta say though, the windows have never stopped working

Ha Ha true that - mine have had a ton of Rockstar spilled on them and they still work lol

Originally Posted by John G

I dislike not being able to check the auto trans by the dip stick on my EL GLi wagon
John G , Adelaide

Yes Argggg

[STINKY NINJA]

Bloody rust in the sills,inner and outer....
Only thing i hate about e series,love almost everything else!
Love me a tidy boxcar!